I've been hacked (Electrum 4.3.2) - page 11.

NeuroticFish

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Quote from: julerz12 on January 09, 2023, 12:51:41 PM

I know all of you will not believe me but I will do everything I can to repay the lost funds even if it takes a while.

The Yo!Mix team and Coinomize team will probably post a scam accusation soon and rightfully so since I have no means to prove my innocence. I will accept whatever this community would think of me as I know this is all my fault for being so careless and stupid.

Sorry to say, but this is the first smart thing I see in that long post.
Get your computer cleaned and start using your Ledger for literally every cent.
I know that tough days are ahead, but I can guess that people will care much more to know they'll get their money back than whether it was a hack or not.

I wish you best of luck. You'll need it.

pawel7777

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Quote from: Woodie on January 09, 2023, 02:18:05 PM

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I see you are putting on a Yomix signature which tells me you are protecting your own interests here after being selected as a participant

Yeah, I wouldn't mind that.

Quote from: Woodie on January 09, 2023, 02:18:05 PM

and why not allow YoMix to protect their interest after this bombshell? Roll Eyes

A good poster will always be a good poster and will easily be spotted by any good CM, gl in your journey.

And how I am not allowing them to protect their interest exactly? Bu suggesting a solution that could minimise their cost and increase the chances of recouping their losses?

Yeah, gl to you too and enjoy whatever you earned from that post.

Poker Player

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Quote from: hugeblack on January 09, 2023, 02:21:15 PM

Personally, I do not advise you to do it (to the reputation of the forum.) @Royse777 is a great member, but currently he is temporarily banned, and he had an old trust problem.

My goodness how quickly it all happened. I saw the campaign and applied precisely because Royse777 didn't manage it. For that I prefer to stay working for icopress for less than half. So I applied in a moment, after another moment I see that I have been accepted and then in a few hours I see two PMs from the campaign manager and now this thread.

We will have to think about this, but what I see is that leaving aside what has really happened, we do know at least that julerz12 has been careless. A campaign manager with the time he has been in the forum should have used a hardware wallet and not just rely on Electrum:

Quote from: julerz12 on January 09, 2023, 12:51:41 PM

I am using this version of Electrum 4.3.2 which I've downloaded from the official website.

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I am devastated and ruined and quite frankly pretty angry at how stupid I am for not using my hardware wallet (Ledger) and just relying purely on Electrum

CryptSafe

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It is unfortunate that such a thing happened just within few hours of campaign listing and appointment of campaign promoters. Such experience is not what I wish anyone to encounteras it is very devastating. Julerz12, as a bounty manager you are, you should have known better than others to save campaign funds very secured because no one would want to hear such stories that touches the heart. If I may ask, the other campaign due Thursday for payment, how would you handle it now. Will you pay them from your salary as you have said that both wallets holding your salary and campaign funds are different? So sorry for the loss.

hugeblack

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Sorry to hear that but you need to work hard to restore your reputation, you will start by trying to pay this amount over a year as the average campaign costs are $400 per month or $4800 per year.
Pay that amount and convince @[banned mixer] / [banned mixer] to do so, and you will get a natural trust with a pledge to stop running any campaigns in the future.

Most importantly, has all the money been hacked? Do you know how it was hacked? Do you pledge extra money to other campaigns?

Quote from: YoMix on January 09, 2023, 01:52:16 PM

Sometimes, bad days are there to remind us that we have good ones to look forward to. Sad it happened, we'll run new campaign soon managed by Royse777.

Personally, I do not advise you to do it (to the reputation of the forum.) @Royse777 is a great member, but currently he is temporarily banned, and he had an old trust problem.

@Hhampuz offered you to do this for free you can hire him and you can get an extended list here ---> Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers

All those are best:
@Hhampuz: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/hhampuz-881377
@LoyceV: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/loycev-459836
@Yahoo62278: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/yahoo62278-355846

Smartprofit

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It is clear that forum user julerz12 should never again be allowed to run signature companies. He is not careful and attentive enough to manage other people's money....

But perhaps he should be given the opportunity to pay off financially affected forum participants and clients.

To do this, he needs to be given the opportunity to earn on the forum. In 1 year, he will probably be able to recover all the losses.

All the money earned by him during 2023 on the forum can be directly transferred to the addresses of persons who have suffered financial losses.

CryptoPanda

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Sorry man. I haven’t worked in any of your campaigns before but your trust score is high and reputable members have good things to say about you. I can’t see $5000 as a reasonable amount that will make someone of such high standing risk his account. That’s my opinion, mistakes happen but that doesn’t relieve you of your responsibility to the campaign and its participants. Coinomize campaign is almost at its due date for payment, I think you should first pay the participants the one week they worked. The other campaign just started today and have been paused. You can negotiate with the companies how to refund their money.

Woodie

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Quote from: pawel7777 on January 09, 2023, 02:01:28 PM

Quote from: YoMix on January 09, 2023, 01:52:16 PM

Sometimes, bad days are there to remind us that we have good ones to look forward to. Sad it happened, we'll run new campaign soon managed by Royse777.

Fair enough, but just a thought - you could still let OP run it and just use escrow service (i.e. Royse777) to pay participants directly. This way OP could be repaying you a bit of what he owes with his service. That's assuming he'd be willing to that that is.

I see you are putting on a Yomix signature which tells me you are protecting your own interests here after being selected as a participant

and why not allow YoMix to protect their interest after this bombshell? Roll Eyes

A good poster will always be a good poster and will easily be spotted by any good CM, gl in your journey.

pawel7777

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on January 09, 2023, 01:58:24 PM

Part of being a campaign manager is the responsibility of managing campaign funds. I don’t see a way out of this except the manager is willing to pay the campaign participants out of his own pocket. I feel sympathy for you, it’s a bad situation you’re in.

Quote from: pawel7777 on January 09, 2023, 01:51:35 PM

Quote from: Edwardard on January 09, 2023, 01:38:34 PM

The main question here is will @OP pay to the participants of coinomize signature campaign from his pocket or should we consider that we have advertised 1week for free?

The main question is if the OP intends to repay all his creditors. As far as I know ~75% of the stolen funds were due to Yomix. Campaign participants do not have any priority here.

Emotions and judgements aside, the question is how do we proceed from here. I see 2 options:

1 - OP gets bashed left and right, gets multiple negative feedback - result -> he's no longer able to earn from his bounty/signature campaigns activity -> leaves the forum -> creditors get nothing

2 - OP negotiates with creditors to work out some mid to long-term plan of repayment -> creditors withhold from giving him a neg trust until he's repaying -> he's still able to make income on the forum but obliges himself to use either multisig address or escrow service of a more trusted 3rd party until the debts are repaid. -> creditors get paid (slowly but still) and OP has a chance to keep his income stream and rebuild his reputation.

Thoughts?

As I know how things work here, option 1 comes first. If OP pays back the campaign funds, the negative tags can be reviewed and changed if need be.

Yeah I know, but this forum is not famous for smartness.

Giving OP option to earn and repay without him handling any funds > crippling his ability to earn and expect him to repay rather than just to f*** off from the forum.

Anyhow, it's down to OP and the people he owes to make such discussion.

Quote from: Coinomize.biz on January 09, 2023, 01:55:52 PM

Since the wallet seems to have been hacked by our Bounty Manager @julerz12 (See: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ive-been-hacked-electrum-432-5433643) we have to pause the signature campaign.

But we will pay everyone their money tomorrow.

saxydev

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It's just 5000$, it's not going to ruin your life. Things happen.

If this happened to Luke.. https://twitter.com/OXTObserver/status/1610468658471485440 , it can happen to everyone. I will follow the address with the funds from now on. 90% we will figure out who ended up with the funds.

dwminer1

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Sorry to read that. I have worked with @julerz12 on many bounty campaigns and he has always proven to be a solid and trustworthy manager. I want to believe it was just a stupid mistake that shouldn't have happened, and it will surely be a costly lesson, but I hope you can fix it.

Erumo

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I think we have a topics here how to update electrum wallet properly, how old version electrum wallets are weak in security, a lots of example how people lost their funds due to Electrum. Sadly, julerz12 must have missed all those cases and did not learn from other people experience. It will be an expensive lesson for bounty manager. His only hope is to pay funds he owe to signature participants from his own pocket. That might save his reputation. Also, those who really support julerz12 as his favourite manager and those who care about julerz12, might help him with that, as they can send him donations.

Feel bad for projects whos signature campaigns were involved. That is a hard hit on their reputation also...

Good luck!

pawel7777

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Quote from: YoMix on January 09, 2023, 01:52:16 PM

Sometimes, bad days are there to remind us that we have good ones to look forward to. Sad it happened, we'll run new campaign soon managed by Royse777.

Fair enough, but just a thought - you could still let OP run it and just use escrow service (i.e. Royse777) to pay participants directly. This way OP could be repaying you a bit of what he owes with his service. That's assuming he'd be willing to that that is.

Adbitco

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Hey mate
You better look for a good stories to cook up i don't believe. You should be held responsible for those funds instead of being here larmenting, telling us a superstitious story.
How would you just have a good campaign like this and you messed up the total funds, okay, let say since you were managing bounties that doesn't worth any value was your wallet hacked or did you lost those management fees you were being paid to manage those bounties?
I think you should better look for another alternative to frame your stories. I just can't believe every company would bear this great lost.
Well if truly this happened to you then take hearts, most time we have to be very mindful.

khaled0111

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Sorry this happened to you, julerz.
Unfortunately, this incident negatively affect your reputation and harm your business as a campaign manager.
You acted as escrow so it doesn't matter whether you are telling the truth or not (I believe you are), it was your duty to keep the coins safe.

Right now, the best/right thing to do is to find a way to refund the missing amount from your own pocket then find out what happened and who got access to your wallet/device.

SatoPrincess

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Part of being a campaign manager is the responsibility of managing campaign funds. I don’t see a way out of this except the manager is willing to pay the campaign participants out of his own pocket. I feel sympathy for you, it’s a bad situation you’re in.

Quote from: pawel7777 on January 09, 2023, 01:51:35 PM

Quote from: Edwardard on January 09, 2023, 01:38:34 PM

The main question here is will @OP pay to the participants of coinomize signature campaign from his pocket or should we consider that we have advertised 1week for free?

The main question is if the OP intends to repay all his creditors. As far as I know ~75% of the stolen funds were due to Yomix. Campaign participants do not have any priority here.

Emotions and judgements aside, the question is how do we proceed from here. I see 2 options:

1 - OP gets bashed left and right, gets multiple negative feedback - result -> he's no longer able to earn from his bounty/signature campaigns activity -> leaves the forum -> creditors get nothing

2 - OP negotiates with creditors to work out some mid to long-term plan of repayment -> creditors withhold from giving him a neg trust until he's repaying -> he's still able to make income on the forum but obliges himself to use either multisig address or escrow service of a more trusted 3rd party until the debts are repaid. -> creditors get paid (slowly but still) and OP has a chance to keep his income stream and rebuild his reputation.

Thoughts?

As I know how things work here, option 1 comes first. If OP pays back the campaign funds, the negative tags can be reviewed and changed if need be.

Twentyonepaylots

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Now my suspicion from you just got stronger. My man, you're not a rookie campaign manager you should have known that for how many years you've been around here. I tried to apply to your campaign, just minutes after I applied it went FULL. I was thinking if you really scanned the profiles of your SELECTED PARTICIPANTS. As I see it, it's full of unfamiliar usernames, don't get me wrong we're thousands here I may not be as active poster but I am an active reader so I know. Then I found out there were revived accounts, unqualified ones, and suspicious accounts. I knew it was something that uncertain, and this just happen.

I was thinking if I'm gonna post about you earlier coz I don't wanna judge, then this happened. You got 2 things you need to explain now. Huh

YoMix

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Sometimes, bad days are there to remind us that we have good ones to look forward to. Sad it happened, we'll run new campaign soon managed by Royse777.

LoyceV

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Quote from: Hispo on January 09, 2023, 01:38:30 PM

we are in times when hot wallets are not safe anymore for any quantity of money

That's always been the case.

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if someone now wants to put a flag or a red tag on you, then it will be well deserved.

Actually, unless OP pays them back, I believe a Flag is needed. Doesn't matter if OP did it on purpose or really "got hacked", by ignoring basic safety precautions, this applies:

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Due to various concrete red flags, I believe that anyone dealing with this user has a high risk of losing money.

pawel7777

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Quote from: Edwardard on January 09, 2023, 01:38:34 PM

The main question here is will @OP pay to the participants of coinomize signature campaign from his pocket or should we consider that we have advertised 1week for free?

The main question is if the OP intends to repay all his creditors. As far as I know ~75% of the stolen funds were due to Yomix. Campaign participants do not have any priority here.

Emotions and judgements aside, the question is how do we proceed from here. I see 2 options:

1 - OP gets bashed left and right, gets multiple negative feedback - result -> he's no longer able to earn from his bounty/signature campaigns activity -> leaves the forum -> creditors get nothing

2 - OP negotiates with creditors to work out some mid to long-term plan of repayment -> creditors withhold from giving him a neg trust until he's repaying -> he's still able to make income on the forum but obliges himself to use either multisig address or escrow service of a more trusted 3rd party until the debts are repaid. -> creditors get paid (slowly but still) and OP has a chance to keep his income stream and rebuild his reputation.

Thoughts?

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