Topic: I've just awarded this guy with 3 merits (Read 2877 times)

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Sometimes i use to ask why is it had for people having a lot of merit to share it out it's not fair really not fair the more the get merit the more the there interest in it we need to put eyes on it well i think.

I tend to agree with  nattykio - many of the "big guys" (legendary accounts) wouldn't be there  - and some shouldn't be there. But that is also why they changed the system - to improve that. The legends here that did get merit since it was introduced (even if it is just 10 merits) are the ones that I respect and deserve to wear the rank.

Not having merits also doesn't mean that they are a shitposter - it just means that their posts are not merit worthy and maybe they should improve their posting habits.

Merits don't discriminate by rank or nationality  -just post quality.
Proof that some of the highest merited members are not senior members.

Name:   theyoungmillionaire
Merit:   552
Date Registered:   October 01, 2017

Name:   DdmrDdmr
Merit:   796
Date Registered:   January 04, 2018

The thing that make these people stand out is hard work.

You are not right. And it's easy to prove. Look at the number of merits of the higher ranks participants. You`ll see that usually it is huge. And this isn`t because they are Sr. Members or Heroes. This is because they earned these merits. When the merit system was just launched, we were all essentially on equal terms. Yes, each rank had its own number of merits "by default". But then each of us could either earn, or not earn merits. I met on the forum Members, who had 83 merits (the original 10 + 73 earned) and Sr. Members with 253 merits (the original 250 + 3 earned). It isn`t difficult to see who is working better. However, such situations are exceptions rather than rules. Most often, we can see Members with 11 merits and Sr. Member with 323 merits. This means that the "big guys" aren`t just lucky to grow in rank before the introduction of the merit system - they really deserve it.


Motivation for beginners should be not a pay rate, but the possibility of taking them to the forum community. Beginners can get here unique knowledge, communicate with coryphae in the crypto-currency area and share their original ideas. Instead, they focus on profane things such as earnings in signature campaigns, and think not about their own development at the forum, but about increasing their rank in order to make more profit. What they don`t take into account, however, is that this behavior leaves them behind the board of the present reality of the forum. And after endless spam and useless posts, the forum community won`t accept them.


Many newcomers are writing junk posts. However, those who really want to learn and comply with the requirements of the forum, grow in rank and receive merits. And noone calls them shitposters. Don`t think that "big guys" can`t distinguish non-acquaintance of a newbie, who is just adapting and trying to understand the topic, from the ignorance of participants who don`t even set a goal to learn.

No. We're not being hard enough. Any shitposter like you can get paid here as a junior with no effort and that's the problem. And I don't know what you mean by 'big guys' but if you can't get merit then you shouldn't be able to earn here. You've been here nearly a year and you've got a grand total of zero merit. Well done. I've received more merit today then you have in a year. You should't be getting paid for the lazy crap that you make and if you had to actually put some effort into earn here I'm sure you would actually try harder. But you don't need to. Neither do all the other Newbies and Junior Members here that sign up in their thousands and that's why this needs to change and signatures need to be removed. If you can't get ten merit to have a signature then you don't deserve to be able to earn here.

Then he needs to state that, and to provide a link.

What if he's also author of wiki article?

The thread is apparently getting full of copy-pasters. You have a new one: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/electric-cars-are-the-future-but-not-with-batteries-4997523
This answer has been directly plagiarized from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_density

I can't understand that. This user doesn't seem like the typical spammer and, yet, there he goes with his plagiarized quote.

EDIT: i've reported it, and even when my reports appear with a 100% of accuracy, all my reported posts are still in there. That's awkward.

You see that is the problem. This isn't a forum with "average pay". It is a forum that is tolerant enough to allow members to earn money, and most of them are taking the piss. Well it's time to "piss off" for them in my opinion.

a new born quality poster.

 I saw many profiles that has many posts, activities and quality contents but doesn't received any single merits from the highers.

I wish there's a Jet Cash in our local board, to provide and sustain the ability of those new rising members. If I have many sMerits and an authority to be a source, I'll not hesitate to give those profiles who put an "effort" on certain things like sharing new information that helps fellow member.


As much as possible, avoid copying contents from the internet but it's okay to make it as a basis for your own topic. Well, copying contents from the internet and indicating the source of it is considered as a shitposting for me. Do you think it's really hard to provide your own statements/opinion? definitely not!

Yes, i agree with what you said about jet cash.
But i don't think if you read the whole conversation here.
Have you read the whole thread?

I fully support you. Plagiarism remains plagiarizm, no matter in what environment it was discovered. The Internet is the same field for the utterance and argumentation of one's thoughts, like everything else. You can`t be guided by other rules just because plagiarism has been seen in the Internet environment. People are really trying to convey their ideas in original way, and it can`t be unpunished that someone copies them and issues them for their own. Because of this the forum is filled with spam and shit posts.

Good suggestion - I've done that.

Shouldn't you edit your first post though? I was also ready to give him a merit but then I noticed the answers bellow your first post... most people probably read the first post and maybe the last page though!

And hey, one more good that came out of it: I learnt the meaning of the word "plagiarist"! Even though I'm not a native English speaker, it's very rare for me to encounter English words I didn't know. Thanks for that!

Well the award and the thread has generated some great discussions, and it has enabled a few others to earn some merits. I'll justify my award by looking at the good that came from my generosity.

ps. Talk Merit says - I hope the bugger gets banned as a result.

I also noticed this one of his post.

Copy

Soure link: http://chinesecoinnews.com/what-is-mining/

Original


Impose the appropriate punishment for him, to aware and to fear others to follow his activites.

Everyone knows that the system is not quite that perfect and for the  people who has concerns about the system already said that many times,... but the fact that theymos can't do anything right now, I guess we just have to adjust ourselves from this kind of abuse/problem.

You found that this person dont deserve the merit points you gave to him, because of this post other members gave him some points, but you can do nothing to cancel your act!!! This is why I believe the merit system should be reviewed.

Nop is not. That's why maybe this is better to wait and see another author's publications in here in order to be able to compare them.
What is still suspicious to me it that he didn't provide this medium link, the copied-pasted one, but the original fonts of his knowledge.

Anyway, after what happened in this very thread, I think this is normal to feel quite "suspicious" before meriting something that actually looks "too great to be the truth".