🔥 Jackbit.io - 🎡 Unique PVP Gambling 🎁 Every 10 min free coins 🎉 NOW LIVE - page 3.

TimeTeller

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Quote from: FruitsBasket on October 18, 2019, 12:18:08 PM

Jackbit extended launch date to 25 October 2019! Thanks for all feedback and support!

We are working on improving our systems, we are trying to give our users a comfortable stay while having fun and playing games, we are also working on a new fairness system. Every user will be able to check every bet on Random.org.

Checked this thread as I have seen that supposedly you will be online now.
Good thing that you are addressing some concerns before fully launching your platform.
Provable fairness is one important feature in gambling games.
So at least people will not complain about this aspect when you are already operational. Good luck!

FruitsBasket

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Jackbit extended launch date to 25 October 2019! Thanks for all feedback and support!

We are working on improving our systems, we are trying to give our users a comfortable stay while having fun and playing games, we are also working on a new fairness system. Every user will be able to check every bet on Random.org.

Heat.GG

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Quote from: Acke on October 17, 2019, 02:20:21 PM

Quote from: Heat.GG on October 17, 2019, 02:07:20 PM

There's a few things here that stick out to me I'd like to address.
JackBit.io seems to claim provable fairness, but after a further chat with the owner it seems otherwise.

Typically using an onsite source of random wouldn't be an issue with traditional Provably fair methodology.
However, since they're mainly based off Player vs player, this creates a unique case.
In theory they are able to know the outcome of a game a player creates, and join if it results in a win for them.

In order to be truly provably fair as a PvP casino, Jackbit needs to be using an external source of random which can't be manipulated by the house.
Ontop of this it needs to be transparent and verifiable on that external source to determine the outcome for any player.

Why don't you show the whole correspondence?
https://imgur.com/a/IsuGCaR

You wrote that this is only possible in theory, also we have no reason to do it, In the message below I wrote to you that we will use external source (Random.org API) or other RNG verifier.

Yes, so why should the players trust your word?
When they can trust math instead and verify themselves?
You're asking players to trust that you won't do that and join winning games, instead of like a typical provably fair casino which uses math to back it up.

FruitsBasket

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Quote from: Acke on October 17, 2019, 02:20:21 PM

Quote from: Heat.GG on October 17, 2019, 02:07:20 PM

There's a few things here that stick out to me I'd like to address.
JackBit.io seems to claim provable fairness, but after a further chat with the owner it seems otherwise.img]https://i.imgur.com/0GXkxdS.png[/img]
Typically using an onsite source of random wouldn't be an issue with traditional Provably fair methodology.
However, since they're mainly based off Player vs player, this creates a unique case.
In theory they are able to know the outcome of a game a player creates, and join if it results in a win for them.

In order to be truly provably fair as a PvP casino, Jackbit needs to be using an external source of random which can't be manipulated by the house.
Ontop of this it needs to be transparent and verifiable on that external source to determine the outcome for any player.

Why don't you show the whole correspondence?

You wrote that this is only possible in theory, also we have no reason to do it, In the message below I wrote to you that we will use external source (Random.org API) or other RNG verifier.

Quoted for image.

Acke

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Quote from: Heat.GG on October 17, 2019, 02:07:20 PM

There's a few things here that stick out to me I'd like to address.
JackBit.io seems to claim provable fairness, but after a further chat with the owner it seems otherwise.
https://i.imgur.com/0GXkxdS.png
Typically using an onsite source of random wouldn't be an issue with traditional Provably fair methodology.
However, since they're mainly based off Player vs player, this creates a unique case.
In theory they are able to know the outcome of a game a player creates, and join if it results in a win for them.
https://i.imgur.com/ufdf3y3.png
In order to be truly provably fair as a PvP casino, Jackbit needs to be using an external source of random which can't be manipulated by the house.
Ontop of this it needs to be transparent and verifiable on that external source to determine the outcome for any player.

Why don't you show the whole correspondence?
https://imgur.com/a/IsuGCaR

You wrote that this is only possible in theory, also we have no reason to do it, In the message below I wrote to you that we will use external source (Random.org API) or other RNG verifier.

Heat.GG

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There's a few things here that stick out to me I'd like to address.
JackBit.io seems to claim provable fairness, but after a further chat with the owner it seems otherwise.

Typically using an onsite source of random wouldn't be an issue with traditional Provably fair methodology.
However, since they're mainly based off Player vs player, this creates a unique case.
In theory they are able to know the outcome of a game a player creates, and join if it results in a win for them.

In order to be truly provably fair as a PvP casino, Jackbit needs to be using an external source of random which can't be manipulated by the house.
Ontop of this it needs to be transparent and verifiable on that external source to determine the outcome for any player.

FruitsBasket

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Quote from: ahmadakbari on October 12, 2019, 12:41:46 PM

Quote from: FruitsBasket on October 12, 2019, 12:04:28 PM

Yes, as the system is designed right now, u will get usd value of the deposit exchanged to coins (on site balance, NO TOKEN OR BLOCKHAIN COIN) which is 100 coins for 1$. So if 0.01 btc = 100$ at the time of deposit, u will get 10000 coins and when u withdraw 10000 coins at the time the price of 0.02 btc = 100$, u will get 0.02 btc for the 10000 coins.

You should allow the users to have their balances at what they have deposited.
Coins are useful in a bear market. But a person who think that bitcoin price will rise, will never deposit into your wesbite.

Jackbit decided to switch from USD to BTC as the main currency of the website. We have created a fixed ratio of 1.000.000 real coins = 1 BTC. The BONUS coins that are earned in the Bounty campaign and other campaigns are the ratio of 6 BONUS coins = 1 real coin.

FruitsBasket

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I would ask all users before they make the final decision to read the whole story and look at all the evidence on our part. Clearly this is an attempt to sabotage our work. We do not see another normal reason for spamming all our topics and social pages with this. We apologize to all users for this inconvenience caused by this FUD attack.

tomal1003

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I am extremely sorry that someone use my screenshots, he was like my friend, i just dont want to enter these kind of problems, i asked a simple question, if you buy it or develop it you can do your business, i dont have any problem, many people doing that.

Quote from: TimeTeller on October 15, 2019, 05:13:42 PM

Quote from: rexxarofmoknathal on October 15, 2019, 04:38:00 PM

Quote from: Jackbitexposed on October 15, 2019, 04:07:44 PM

@FruitsBasket can you comment in the topic below and explain all of this? Or maybe get your boss Micheal to do that? Wink

Jackbit.io uses premade script and denies it, that was used on luckygames.net

I suppose it makes sense as how else were they able to maintain the 200 free bonus coins and the free bonus coins every 10 minutes irrespective of the balance amount. Otherwise, they'd quickly go bankrupt

That is a serious allegation to jackbit.
May we hear a good explanation from their end?
If in case they are using the same which they said they didn't, that's fine.
As long as they will not cheat people in the long run.

edit : saw the explanation. let's see where this goes...

i agree with you, they should explain it better way and we should wait and watch their project too. many people scamming with new script also, it doesn't matter it's a old script or not, it matters how they run their casino

TimeTeller

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Quote from: rexxarofmoknathal on October 15, 2019, 04:38:00 PM

Quote from: Jackbitexposed on October 15, 2019, 04:07:44 PM

@FruitsBasket can you comment in the topic below and explain all of this? Or maybe get your boss Micheal to do that? Wink

Jackbit.io uses premade script and denies it, that was used on luckygames.net

I suppose it makes sense as how else were they able to maintain the 200 free bonus coins and the free bonus coins every 10 minutes irrespective of the balance amount. Otherwise, they'd quickly go bankrupt

That is a serious allegation to jackbit.
May we hear a good explanation from their end?
If in case they are using the same which they said they didn't, that's fine.
As long as they will not cheat people in the long run.

edit : saw the explanation. let's see where this goes...

Acke

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Quote from: Jackbitexposed on October 15, 2019, 04:07:44 PM

@FruitsBasket can you comment in the topic below and explain all of this? Or maybe get your boss Micheal to do that? Wink

Jackbit.io uses premade script and denies it, that was used on luckygames.net

All the lies of this guy were revealed with concrete evidence, it is possible that we were cheated by our developer, but this is not a problem for the public, also this guy asked me to send him $ 300-400 not to do this, also he is owner of the fraudulent site "luckydice"as we stated in the evidence

rexxarofmoknathal

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Quote from: Jackbitexposed on October 15, 2019, 04:07:44 PM

@FruitsBasket can you comment in the topic below and explain all of this? Or maybe get your boss Micheal to do that? Wink

Jackbit.io uses premade script and denies it, that was used on luckygames.net

I suppose it makes sense as how else were they able to maintain the 200 free bonus coins and the free bonus coins every 10 minutes irrespective of the balance amount. Otherwise, they'd quickly go bankrupt

Jackbitexposed

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@FruitsBasket can you comment in the topic below and explain all of this? Or maybe get your boss Micheal to do that? Wink

Jackbit.io uses premade script and denies it, that was used on luckygames.net

atjiat

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Quote from: FruitsBasket on October 14, 2019, 04:35:17 PM

Quote from: atjiat on October 14, 2019, 12:20:05 PM

Quote from: FruitsBasket on October 11, 2019, 02:55:09 PM

Quote from: atjiat on October 11, 2019, 02:38:34 PM

Quote from: FruitsBasket on October 11, 2019, 11:22:10 AM

We do not have an ICO. The system will convert the deposited balance to coins by giving 100 coins for every 1$ deposited in BTC/ETH. Thanks for all the interest. Check our bounty thread here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52722928

I understand that your resource has not yet been launched, because I went through the link, and there it comes from the count of the timer, which still has seven days left? I would like to quickly see the real features of your site. And regarding the company's bounty, why did you decline to signature compaing ?

Yes we decided to run bounty one week before we open, this way we have good interest upon launch. We declined signature because we feel like there is too much signature campaigns already with alot of bad quality posters and think that such campaign does not add value to Jackbit, but instead give it a spam based image, which Jackbit really does not want.

Of course, I understand all your concerns about the Bounty Company. But I want to draw your attention to the fact that if Signature compaing has certain conditions, such as 10 posts per week that need to be written in at least 3-4 days, this will not provoke spam on the forum and thus your signature and The company’s image will not dislike users due to spam. Of course, there are companies that provoke spam, when, based on the conditions of the Bounty, companies force participants to write in specific sections of the forum and a large number of posts: 25 and above. This is, of course, an abuse that will negatively affect the company's reputation and the trust of the member of the Bounty company itself.

Thanks for your feedback. For now we will not include a signature campaign in this bounty. If however we ever to decide to do a signature campaign, this will be outside of the bounty that is running now and will have its own specific terms and conditions.

Of course it is a pity that in the near future you do not have such plans to use the signature company to advertise your project. I would love to take part in this. But today I’m happy to try your luck on your resource. Grin

el kaka22

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www.Crypto.Games: Multiple coins, multiple games

Quote from: ahmadakbari on October 14, 2019, 06:47:53 PM

About signature campaign
For now better to focus on developing your website. But generally your website needs advertising. I am sure advertising on bitcointalk is much more effective than Twitter and Discord.
Don't worry about spamming. If you hire a good manager, spammers won't partipate in your campaign. There are many big gambling websites that are running signature campaign now or have run it before.

Yeah, the signature campaign part will be the most difficult part if you want to run it by yourself. If you hire someone to take a look at every single message then that guy will make it his job to read every single message of a certain user before they pay them, that way you are leaving a job that is unwanted by a whole team to be done by someone that gets paid for this.

Managers are really worth their money, if you hire someone those guys will spend hours every single day checking messages from the users, you can't hire someone to your team that will do something like this, it would cost you a lot more, but if you freelance it to a manager then you will be at ease. Sure, you can try to do it yourself but you have to ask yourself if your time is more valuable checking messages or doing something else.

tomal1003

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Quote from: FruitsBasket on October 15, 2019, 03:56:49 AM

Quote from: tomal1003 on October 15, 2019, 03:20:47 AM

It looks like luckydice.net which already scam users and closed. did you buy the script from them?

It does not look like that site at all and Jackbit did not buy any script, it is all custom made by a development team. Please refrain from such statements.

Okay. I have 2 screenshots of that website, you can check
http://prntscr.com/pjhe7o
http://prntscr.com/pjhfa6

i saw your screenshots, all are as same as that website was.

Here is their thread ,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betaluckydicenet-crashdicejackpot-gamesfree-coins-5173943

FruitsBasket

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Quote from: tomal1003 on October 15, 2019, 03:20:47 AM

It looks like luckydice.net which already scam users and closed. did you buy the script from them?

It does not look like that site at all and Jackbit did not buy any script, it is all custom made by a development team. Please refrain from such statements.

tomal1003

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It looks like luckydice.net which already scam users and closed. did you buy the script from them?

FruitsBasket

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Quote from: ahmadakbari on October 14, 2019, 06:47:53 PM

About signature campaign
For now better to focus on developing your website. But generally your website needs advertising. I am sure advertising on bitcointalk is much more effective than Twitter and Discord.
Don't worry about spamming. If you hire a good manager, spammers won't partipate in your campaign. There are many big gambling websites that are running signature campaign now or have run it before.

Thanks for your feedback! Jackbit is indeed putting the focus on the website. However it is not about the manager that handles the campaign, but about the users. I am certain there are users who will just post for the sake of signature funds. When we figure out a way to avoid this, we will surely launch a signature campaign.

ahmadakbari

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About signature campaign
For now better to focus on developing your website. But generally your website needs advertising. I am sure advertising on bitcointalk is much more effective than Twitter and Discord.
Don't worry about spamming. If you hire a good manager, spammers won't partipate in your campaign. There are many big gambling websites that are running signature campaign now or have run it before.

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