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Topic: JarzikCoin aka segwit2xCoin exposed: trying to get KYC crap on the code - page 2. (Read 1693 times)

sr. member
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Hey pereira4, did you expect the DNS seeds inside btc1 client going to be keept to the core devs who dont support SegWit2x Huh  This would be not safe for the success of SegWit2x at all.

You believe core devs geting KYC from everybody who using Bitcoin Core. hmm...
legendary
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I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness.

Under this new client type, if it forms their own chain, there is a high probability
that any mixed coins or coins that do not come directly from approved exchanges/
services will be blacklisted or considered "dirty". This policy will reinforce the false
perceived value of the clean coins, thus incentivizing the ignorant to want blacklists
and the theft of "rights" of their fellow users. Eventually, those who remain will be
the most monitored and enslaved, yet they will call it freedom.

In addition, immutability may not have a certain probability of existing on that chain
since the creation and transference of liabilities from events on this chain, is applied
to the companies that formed and support this client. This has never occurred in the
bitcoin space prior to this event. It would be considered under most jurisdictions, that
these companies in fact created this new product, instead of just providing a connection
to an unregulatable pre-existing product. Thus, there is a high probability of a future
chain edit or "roll backs" on this chain type due to their new legal responsibilities. So,
by the NYA's signatories' creation, immutability can not exist on this chain, because
they have taken on liabilities that they will be forced to expel through chain edits,
instead of through quantifiable damages in courtrooms.

There are very important reasons why Satoshi did what he did, and designed as he
did. It was to protect all participants within the Bitcoin ecosystem. So be careful
what you wish for, because you just might get it all.

All companies that signed this NY Silbert Agreement should refer to their in-house
counsel(s) and potentially receive a second legal opinion from outside reputable
independent counsel, so they are fully aware of what they have willingly participated in
and created, and if possible, take corrective actions before any liabilities manifest.


[Edit: For clarification, the legal issue stems from the SegWit2x/ABC Client using a new
chain with protocol changes that were "contentious". When a forked chain occurs, where
two chains will survive or the new chain supplants the current chain, the new client chain
with it's signing corporations, all legally bound themselves as responsible parties for all
actions on that new chain, including but not limited to, failures in code and on-chain
transactions that facilitate illegal deeds.

This is attributable because without their collective action, this new chain and any liabilities
that occur, could not have reasonably come about on it own accord. It comes from their
collective agreement and support for taking on this liability whether aware of or not at the
time of signing. Corporations are held to higher standards when signing agreements, than
compared to individuals or by High Consensus. Ignorance of what they participated in,
does not absolve them of potential future damages to certain parties. There was a very
important reason why Consensus and One Chain was a rule. It was not to restrict some,
but to protect all parties involved in this Experiment.]

Edit: removed some "ABC" clients for "new" clients, to be more specific that it refers to
contentious chain splits, not a specific client itself.


legendary
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Flying Hellfish is a Commie
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Hmm, interesting analysis and point.

My response as someone who does not know:

Buy BTC now before they try any KYC crap.  Then lay low to see of this policy holds.  Buy BTC with money that you can afford to lose.  Then mix those coins.

Well if it's being put into the code itself, I'd be expecting for them to be able to find out the mixing things much eaiser now. I wouldn't see any other reason for someone that has a vested interested in Blockchain Analysis (Garzik) which favors Financial Institutions / Law Enfrorcement community to be getting involved in the code works of trying to change bitcoin UNLESS he feels that he can help himself and his company get more and more work.

Even if you buy BTC now, just know that you SHOULD still be mixing coins to ensure the highest level of anonymity.
legendary
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Be a bank
[16:57:38] · http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-14#1683508 << I'll start chopping things down and aim for it, yes.

[16:57:38] · Logged on 2017-07-14 16:47 mircea_popescu: aaand trinque, incidentally, as it just occured to me -- can you get deedbot payments online by the end of the month ? seems somewhat likely usg is gonna turn off its "webwallet" bullshits from blockchain.info down.

[16:57:44] · cool deal.

[16:59:51] · All signs point to this .... blockchain.info is added as DNS seed for segwit2x in recent commits on shithub

[17:00:55] · would have been great if we had a service that had already been open, tested and could be advertised ; but it'll be useful even to have it new, not like the dorks have much memory or mental consideration space anyway.

[17:01:29] · meanwhile on reddit, [porn censored]

[17:03:00] · lol dns seeds

[17:03:10] · i nearly forgot that this existed.
legendary
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lol awwwww blockstream employees cant own bitcoin(the network).


but what pereira4 doesnt realise is that Bloq employees are paid by.... the same people that pay blockstream employee's

so effectively
barry silbert still owns bitcoins main mechanisms.

atleast pereira4 will still get to back the same team(once he follows the money back far enough).
its semi-subdefuge because he is causing empty drama knowing that all his finger pointing is just distractions, where ultimately the same puppet master has the same control

maybe it will sort blockstream out to be more part of the community by them joining the community because from what i can see blockstream love the segwit part of segwitx2 but as soon as segwitx2 activates the segwit element, their blockstream seeds will block and abandon nodes that want the 2x part.

now blockstream have to up their game and add the x2 code to then be allowed to be dns seeds.. otherwise blockstream lose out
legendary
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Hmm, interesting analysis and point.

My response as someone who does not know:

Buy BTC now before they try any KYC crap.  Then lay low to see of this policy holds.  Buy BTC with money that you can afford to lose.  Then mix those coins.
legendary
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The btc1 dns seed change can tell you a lot. Move away from devs seed (have ackd privacy/neutrality policy) to companies who seek control.


https://twitter.com/_jonasschnelli_/status/885884662010322944

They are trying to sneak in this shit in various ways. It shows the aim they want to take with Bitcoin, all of course, lead by butthurt Jeff Garzik known for his efforts in blockchain analysis:

https://angel.co/skry



Be aware of the fact that everyone involved in the hardfork is a direct enemy of bitcoin, and you supporting it makes you an enemy of bitcoin.

Watch sockpuppets try to defend this in various ridiculous ways as the price crashes.
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