Jeb Bush POTUS campaign appears dead in the water

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Quote from: Valonib on August 16, 2015, 01:49:27 PM

Quote from: rio3232 on August 16, 2015, 01:41:45 PM

So you're a fan of the Kardashian's, who would've knew

I've never seen it, but it's hardly surprising that your presumptuous is so awry.

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Americans are sick of pandering lying politicians, which is why Trumps message resonates so clearly. As a citizen of the United States, I don't get to break the law without a consequence, and neither should illegal aliens. This message will "Trump" any bull(*)(*)(*)(*) message coming from the loony pathetic left

Despite your "left!" that has you in such a tizzy, pragmatists would like to know how much the taxpayer will be forced to cough up for your media entertainer to identify, track down, apprehend, incarcerate, prosecute, conduct appeals, and deport 11-12 million men, women, and children. Assuming that he doesn't make them suddenly go "Poof! via the magic of his medium, might we have some budgetary projections?

The entertainment impresario has proclaimed that he will (again, single-handedly) replace the Affordable Care Act with "something terrific!" That may dispose some to ecstatic rapture, but sober Americans could use a modicum of detail if that doesn't step on the Trumpster's insubstantial shtick.

Mewling "Liberal!" or "The Left!" at everything that upsets you - including inconvenient, cogent questions to your hero - is hardly helpful. Spouting airy-fairy nostrums is not statecraft.

Will ! be the Republicans' 2016 model Romney? He seems to be willing to provide those essential details.

We'll just have to enjoy the GOP presidential demolition derby while it lasts.

I think your sarcasm and pessimism is warranted, until details on Trump's plans emerge and can be critically examined. As a businessman, I assume he'd be more attuned to cost and waste than the average politician. But your concept - that that MIGHT NOT BE THE CASE - is certainly possible at this point.

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does that surprise you? the guy stands for nothing, believes in nothing. more welfare spending and amnesty for illegal immigrants. trump is the republicans best hope.

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Quote from: rio3232 on August 16, 2015, 01:41:45 PM

So you're a fan of the Kardashian's, who would've knew

I've never seen it, but it's hardly surprising that your presumptuous is so awry.

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Americans are sick of pandering lying politicians, which is why Trumps message resonates so clearly. As a citizen of the United States, I don't get to break the law without a consequence, and neither should illegal aliens. This message will "Trump" any bull(*)(*)(*)(*) message coming from the loony pathetic left

Despite your "left!" that has you in such a tizzy, pragmatists would like to know how much the taxpayer will be forced to cough up for your media entertainer to identify, track down, apprehend, incarcerate, prosecute, conduct appeals, and deport 11-12 million men, women, and children. Assuming that he doesn't make them suddenly go "Poof! via the magic of his medium, might we have some budgetary projections?

The entertainment impresario has proclaimed that he will (again, single-handedly) replace the Affordable Care Act with "something terrific!" That may dispose some to ecstatic rapture, but sober Americans could use a modicum of detail if that doesn't step on the Trumpster's insubstantial shtick.

Mewling "Liberal!" or "The Left!" at everything that upsets you - including inconvenient, cogent questions to your hero - is hardly helpful. Spouting airy-fairy nostrums is not statecraft.

Will ! be the Republicans' 2016 model Romney? He seems to be willing to provide those essential details.

We'll just have to enjoy the GOP presidential demolition derby while it lasts.

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I have a lot of disdain for Bush after he rigged the election for his brother,look at what that led to.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_election_recount

and yes..He did rig it.
Even the FL Supreme court wanted a recount and the supervisor of elections had to step down.
The recount was overruled by US Supreme court.

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Jeb Bush could have been the worst possible GOP candidate. I am glad that he is trailing in the polls. Jeb Bush in 2016 would have fared even worse than McCain in 2008 and Romney in 2012. He represents only the establishment faction of the Republicans, and a large number of the Republican voters will either stay at home, or vote for a third party candidate if he becomes the GOP nominee.

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Quote from: abasin on August 16, 2015, 01:44:04 PM

Gobbygook is going to be the Republican message! Is that new?

You mean imitate the Dem politicians? I don't know about that as a viable strategy since the GOPer politicians told the absolute truth in both mid terms and ended up absolutely shellacking -- by Obama's own admission -- the Dems. So unlike -- say -- Obama or Hillary, I suspect that the GOPers will again just tell the truth about things. It should be interesting.

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Quote from: rio3232 on August 16, 2015, 01:41:45 PM

So you're a fan of the Kardashian's, who would've knew

Americans are sick of pandering lying politicians, which is why Trumps message resonates so clearly. As a citizen of the United States, I don't get to break the law without a consequence, and neither should illegal aliens. This message will "Trump" any bull(*)(*)(*)(*) message coming from the loony pathetic left

Hate to burst your little bubble but real Americans break the law all the time with very little consequence. Consider drug usage, distracted driving, driving while intoxicated, disability claims, welfare, cheating on taxes, etc.

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Quote from: godlyitems on August 16, 2015, 01:38:37 PM

Quote from: rio3232 on August 16, 2015, 01:33:05 PM

Trump won't be the nominee, but his message will.

Good point.

Gobbygook is going to be the Republican message! Is that new?

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Quote from: peterson33 on August 16, 2015, 12:57:19 PM

Jeb Bush has dropped to 7% support with Scott Walker in equal 6 th place. Bush appears dead in the water and there is probably no recovery from here unless Trump and five others above him tank.

Goodbye Jeb. Can't say it was nice knowing you.

Follow the money!

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Quote from: abasin on August 16, 2015, 01:40:51 PM

'Reality' tv is preferable to reality?

So you're a fan of the Kardashian's, who would've knew

Americans are sick of pandering lying politicians, which is why Trumps message resonates so clearly. As a citizen of the United States, I don't get to break the law without a consequence, and neither should illegal aliens. This message will "Trump" any bull(*)(*)(*)(*) message coming from the loony pathetic left

abasin

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Quote from: rio3232 on August 16, 2015, 01:33:05 PM

Trump won't be the nominee, but his message will.

'Reality' tv is preferable to reality?

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Quote from: peterson33 on August 16, 2015, 01:36:01 PM

Your post is a patent and blatant lie. You do not know me personally and have no knowledge that "you don't know him".

Actually, the odds are better for you winning the lotto than you having any relationship whatsoever with Jeb Bush. Peddle you BS some place else

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Quote from: rio3232 on August 16, 2015, 01:33:05 PM

Trump won't be the nominee, but his message will.

Good point.

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Quote from: engwell on August 16, 2015, 01:06:17 PM

Well seeing as his official platforms seems to be "pick up were my big bro left off." I'm not that surprised he is dead in the water.

Barrack did that....snatched it right out from under Jebbys nose!

LMAO

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Quote from: peterson33 on August 16, 2015, 12:57:19 PM

Post-debate, the only two first-tier candidates who held their position were Donald Trump (in the lead) and Marco Rubio (still tied for fourth). The closest to Trump's post-debate 23 percent was Ted Cruz, moving up from a sixth-place tie to claim second place with 13 percent. Ben Carson also got a boost, moving up from being tied for fourth place to sole possession of third place, with 11 percent. Behind these three were Carly Fiorina and Marco Rubio, both at 8 percent support. The two big losers, however, were Jeb Bush and Scott Walker, who moved from being tied for second place down to being tied for sixth place, with only 7 percent support. That's a pretty big drop for both of them, neither of whom can now claim to be even close to "frontrunner" status. Rand Paul and Mike Huckabee both got 5 percent, and no other candidate got better than 2 percent.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-weigant/new-poll-shakes-up-gop-ra_b_7968588.html

Jeb Bush has dropped to 7% support with Scott Walker in equal 6 th place. Bush appears dead in the water and there is probably no recovery from here unless Trump and five others above him tank.

Goodbye Jeb. Can't say it was nice knowing you.

Great news!

A royal rejected!

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Quote from: Namviet on August 16, 2015, 01:07:08 PM

Eight years ago, Rudy Giuliani was leading in the polls. Look how that worked out.

There is still suspicion of Giuliani's role in 911.

Quote from: rio3232 on August 16, 2015, 01:12:58 PM

Wow, why would you lie like that, you don't know him as you claim

Your post is a patent and blatant lie. You do not know me personally and have no knowledge that "you don't know him".

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Gore is still a possibility for Democrats.

Trump has only just started with his Bush criticisms. When he gets to full force on criticism Bush will wilt. Others will attack Bush too which will hasten Bush's demise.

Bush does not appear to have much inner strength and has progressed by his family connections.

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Quote from: godlyitems on August 16, 2015, 01:14:35 PM

Pretty much with the array of exclusive Angry, Old, White clowns the dems have as both known presidential contenders and potential presidential contenders the party might as well just concede the 2016 election here and now. Sanders is a freaking socialist, Hillary is openly corrupt, Joe Biden is senile, John Kerry just finished helping Obama shaft the United States with the Iran Nuclear 'deal', and Al Gore has all the personality before the camera lens of a moldering corpse. In contrast the GOP has so many good and dynamic candidates that it just doesn't matter who stays in or drops out during the course of their primaries. So . . . yeah . . . bring 'em on!

Ain't that the truth

Quote from: abasin on August 16, 2015, 01:21:13 PM

Just as progressive fantasists indulge in the pipe dream of the 'reality tv' entertainer Trump being the GOP nominee.

Trump won't be the nominee, but his message will.

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Quote from: abasin on August 16, 2015, 01:20:28 PM

A couple of memorable gems from the architect of the biggest foreign policy diaster in US history:

Obama lost Iraq

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/08/who-lost-iraq.php

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Quote from: peterson33 on August 16, 2015, 12:57:19 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-weigant/new-poll-shakes-up-gop-ra_b_7968588.html

Jeb Bush has dropped to 7% support with Scott Walker in equal 6 th place. Bush appears dead in the water and there is probably no recovery from here unless Trump and five others above him tank.

Goodbye Jeb. Can't say it was nice knowing you.

Good. Now if we can only get rid of Klinton. No more family dynasties. That's something both sides of the aisle can agree on.

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