Topic: jeremypwr Bitcasino.io and Sportsbet.io Extortion, Ponzi promoting, scammer - page 2. (Read 1428 times)

Feeling really sorry to say this but now, I've come to a conclusion here that an innocent user @WaffleMaster himself is trying to "extort" for a small amount of money here by giving mental torture to the whole forum by making the same accusations again and again, even after things trying to settle down from the other party's (manager) end. To the best of my knowledge, people shouldn't be here if their least intention is just to make money through the forum. Either we get paid or not, but we post; we post for the sake of our passion because we love to do it, to share our opinions here as we know they're going to be heard. Seeing your history after making this scam accusation thread, I've been watching you and can say that you've not posted anything good since then and are just trying to worsen up things for both of you by carrying away this discussion ahead. Why are you bothering too much just for those 7 posts (and even if you're right according to yahoo, I'd still ask you what makes you think that you were to be remaining in that campaign till its end when such ^agreements^ that you're talking about, were literally not made)? Where can you prove here that you're entirely entitled for that position for the whole campaign and that you were not going to be removed in either ways? And if you're not entitled to it, then I'm sorry but your claims about your ^potential^ earnings have just come out of thin air and nothing. That's my judgment.

You're right, your signature doesn't make it less true. It was never true to begin with, so something false can't be made more false. Actually, it's not an opinion, because common law has amendments change the original law all the time. If you think the campaign manager did nothing wrong in threatening and extorting agreed to payment to force an action by somebody, that's your morally deprived opinion. You can have it and we can discuss it. But the fact is that extortion is actually illegal.

If I was your boss, let's say roofing, and we had a 2 month project that we were working on and one day I think you showed up late because my watch was an hour ahead, and I fired you, is that ok? Is it then ok to say that if you say anything, I'll withhold all payment for previous work you've done?

And yet, my signature does not make what I say any less true. Your posts are not exact duplicates, but they are all ultimately saying the exact same things. You've used the same picture of your PMs in about 40 posts. That's spamming.


In your opinion, which is obviously not shared by most others.

Oh hey, a sportbet shill coming in here to try and save face for the extortion. High activity is not spamming. Go ahead and read some of those posts and see if they're duplicates. Did you know that the #5 player on the leaderboard was just kicked out for no reason?

On the topic of agreeing to things, yes that was part of the rules. Thing is, I was kicked out and I was only mentioning the error to the manager (which is god aweful, anybody hiring him past these campaigns is seriously twisted). I did offer that we delete things and go back to normal after everything was fixed, and he agreed. So now there are 2 agreements, one after the other. The agreement after the original agreement stands up stronger, as you can obviously guess. It was an amendment basically.

But please continue to defend the person who said this to a participant of their campaign, after THE MANAGER made an error, agreed to make it right and return to normal.

You made 75 posts about this across 8 threads in 5 boards in under 8 hours yesterday. If that isn't spamming, I don't know what is.

You were paid for the work you did. The end. You keep going on and on about "he agreed this" and "he agreed that" - well, here is what you agreed to:

1) I'm not entitled, because if you agree to do something and don't do it, that is you defaulting on an agreement. You didn't make things go back to normal like was agreed. That's not me being entitled, that's you scamming.
2) I'm not spamming, I'm replying to people. If you have a problem with somebody replying to people in relevant context and using pictures, that sounds like a personal issue.
3) You dropped me before payment because of your error and being a bad campaign manager. You then said you would make things normal and fix it, but you didn't. Obviously things are not back to normal like you agreed to.
4) Case still open, simply because you state it's over doesn't mean it's over. There still are allegations of your blackmailing which is documented and also scamming out of the agreement you said yes to.

I don't see this self-entitled lunatic giving up anytime soon. 

He will prob continue to post the same large images and disrupt threads of business.

I've already PMed the mods; hoping something is done here.

His spamming and multiple thread starting has to be against some rules here.

He was paid, then dropped.

Case closed.

A fair analysis. Acknowledging that it turns out that I was right, I DID give him time before the scam accusation but not before other posts, which was a mistake. And noting that the campaign manager was extremely unprofessional with his threats, blackmailing and all of that. Perhaps both parties were indeed misguided in their initial reaction, but to say this absolves him of his blackmailing and that he will simply "learn" not to commit criminal activity like extortion is pretty ridiculous. Acknowledging the fact that he didn't fix his mistake as well. So really, anybody reading this can see that yes I may have overreacted initially by opening some posts... big deal? This man blackmailed, extorted, punished me in error. Then he offered to fix it, then broke that agreement. Honestly it is quite disgraceful, and now everybody's reputation is ruined, including the companies who hired him as an employee. THIS MAN IS LITERALLY PAID TO MANAGE A CAMPAIGN, something which he did incorrectly, then started extorting funds that were agreed to to try and censor a participant he kicked out in error and gave reduced pay to. You really going to ignore that?

The whole thread ting is total bullshit, and only applies to duplicate posts. They aren't duplicate, so there's no way a rule is being broken. Go check Meta for a full list of rules on the forum. Anyways, I guess it's not extortion to use threats or force to coerce somebody to doing something?

Alright WaffleMaster, stop spamming your images in Reputation, Scam Accusation, Gambling, Services, and Meta. You are cross-posting and you could at least get temp-banned for that, for all I know.

For the millionth time, you weren't scammed, nor were you extorted. Nowhere in the campaign thread were you guaranteed to get 960$ or get paid for all 8 weeks. Stop using half meanings here. I totally see Jeremypwr removed you, and that's totally acceptable. Go get yourself drunk and throw up,you'd feel better. All that shit crazy anger would get out of your head.

Like stedsm said, @Jerermypwr, don't ask users to delete their posts. They can make how much ever posts they want. Just count 8 of them.

Glad you chimed in here; I would hate for Wafflemaster to think he could use his sense of entitlement against another part-time contractor...

Regarding my behavior, I will not engage with another participant like that, and I apologize to all for the spam it created.

I have received enough support in this thread from the community, and a dozen or so more PMs.

Rest assured, my Campaigns will go on and business will be as usual.

Take care everyone, and by the way I just won my 500th bet yesterday!   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43301811

Nobody is superman. The manager handled the situation terribly. When he made the mistake, after receiving the pm from Wafflemaster he should have just fixed it and moved on. Wafflemaster should have calmly messaged the user and waited for the manager to reply and fix the mistake.

Instead wafflemaster went crazy and made a million posts all over the bitcasino thread, sportsbet thread, campaigns thread, and reputation section. They both made threats towards each other via pm and acted like children.

I don't care what reasoning they feel they had, they were both wrong.

What I have learned for the whole situation:

Jeremypower did not act very professional as a campaign manager. Maybe he will learn from this issue and make himself better. Only time will tell. Instead of the pm war with Waffle he needs to look at Waffles complaint or any other users complaint he receives and see if the complaint is warranted. If it is, then fix it. If the complaint is incorrect, then message the user and explain why it is incorrect.



Wafflemaster is someone I would not consider hiring ever. He has shown that he is 1 of the users that feels he is entitled. If he doesn't get his way he will try to force his opinion on you. This is not the type of user that goes far in this forum. Even though it turns out waffle is in the right as far as the mistake on post counts, he still took it too far and somehow has this misconception he got screwed out of 500+ dollars.

I can understand tempers flaring for a few minutes but neither guy came to his senses really and decided to turn it into a circus sideshow event over the last 12 hours

Now bounty managers are superman. They think they can do anything they want. But it should not be.

Long story short, even if the manager committed error, he might have already removed you from the campaign next week itself. Tell me how are you assuming that you lose $900? Are you just making an assumption that you'd have remained in the campaign till its end? What if you'd have been removed next week itself for no reason based on the campaign manager's policy? Either you've gone totally insane or you're fighting just for the sake of the missed payment of those 7 posts. Getting into a campaign doesn't really guarantee your long term relationship with the same, you're not entitled to remain in a campaign till its end as each campaign has a policy to remove a user, they believe, doesn't fit to their requirements in any means and/or for any reasons.

I'm sorry you feel that way. If your boss told you you had 40 hours this week then all of a sudden said no, you're not working at all, would that make you upset? Pretty comparable situation all things considered. Then on top of that, said if you talk about your hours getting cut at all, your previous week pay will not be given. Yeah, starts to put things in perspective right?



It was because he was only paying me for 18 posts and not 25. Then he thought I didn't meet the 25/week deadline and kicked me from the campaign based on that false assumption from his error. The pay increase I mentioned was the increase from 18 to 25 posts.

Ok, I believe I misunderstood when you said that he asked you to delete the remaining posts, but I believe those were the posts showcasing his issues.


July 24 or July 20? Or is it between July 21 & July 24?
Anyways, I've seen that and yes, I do believe that you're correct in that matter.


But, I've been following the campaign's thread since its start and to my knowledge, there was no price change (as whenever I saw the title post, it always showed $120/week only). What kind of pay increase are you talking about?


Yes, I've read all their previous accusations and found that many of them were declared as resolved, didn't get so deep into the theory but I believe this one should be given higher priority if what you said, did happen.


Btw, I've got one only and that's enough to bang mouths off. /s  

Waflemaster stop acting like a spoiled brat, you didn't lose out on $900.  If I get fired from a job I don't demand pay for future work I haven't done.  It's Jeremypwr's campaign you are not entitled to a spot, its his choice.

You honestly think that me allowing him time, a person who kicked me out and is giving me reduced pay, is blackmail because I granted him the courtesy to have time to think about and deal with his errors? Or should I have just opened a scam accusation immediately without even giving him a chance? People have jobs, I'm not sure what time zone they are in or what their schedule is, so giving them time is not blackmail. Insane logic here, that me giving time and understanding to somebody to correct an issue is blackmail.

As much as I can see in the previous images of yours, you also threatened him with your own blackmail. Both of you made misconducts now it can't be resolved. Its best to just part ways accept that because you're not going to the court all for this. But if you are going to continue to hold grudge and raise awareness which is sick, you'll end up wasting your time. Believe me, we've seen enough drama in our lives. Its not entertaining. It made you sleepless already.

I can hold them accountable, anybody can hold them accountable. It's a community. I'm not making things worse, or rather explain how am I? I'm trying to prevent people from having a lot of profit potential stripped from them because of a shitty manager who lies and cheats their users, then agrees to make it right, then also cheats them on that! Not to mention the threats and petty immature name calling. What about that makes things worse for the community?