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Topic: jeremypwr Bitcasino.io and Sportsbet.io Extortion, Ponzi promoting, scammer - page 3. (Read 1433 times)

hero member
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You are trolling, I consider what you are doing as trolling because they are not obligated to do anything other than enrolling people in their campaign, Count their posts and finally pay them. Did you receive your payment for your posts made last week or not? If you did then you are out as of now, The rest of the story is related to morality while you can't hold them accountable for going back on their words. Drop it and stop making things worse than this.
legendary
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Sorry for the interruption here guys, not bumping this thread but I need to make myself understand a few things here. I'll be putting everything one by one:

This one's for jeremypwr:
- Someone told me that there's no restriction on the number of posts a person can make on the forum in a day (not at least if the posts are of good quality). I've seen many members making more than 30 posts daily (I won't be disclosing names here) and their posts were helpful to the community which is why even moderators didn't delete them. What I don't understand here is: The rule of your campaign says that "Maximum of 8 posts/day will be counted towards total post count", so how it makes someone restricted to making posts more than 8 a day? They can post as much as they want and you can only count 8 of them per day according to the rule, right? So, where did the need arises for you to ask the user WaffleMaster to delete their posts? You might have paid them for the total posts considering 8 posts/day and not their ^12 posts^ for that day. You might have removed them for kinda post- bursting if they committed it. Nowhere under the rules section can I find anything like that written that a user is RESTRICTED to making 8 posts ONLY per day. Mind explaining me where am I wrong here?

This one's for WaffleMaster:
- You've been playing all well before I saw you claiming the services of Bet oh sorry, Bitcasino [FTFY] and Sportsbet scam. You started everything with the manager and your fight was for the money you wanted for your work and jeremypwr was the manager to deal with it. Now tell me, what made you think that the mentioned websites and/or their employees are scam? Didn't you ask the question to the manager that I asked here currently? And when it was clearly written by the manager over the campaign's OP that "I can remove you from the Campaign at any time, for whatever reason", why couldn't you just take it and move on? What's all this drama for? He said he was ready to pay you, then why?
hero member
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I don't get why you push yourself into the campaign when all is over for you the bounty manager decides to cut you participation. He decides to terminate you from it, its not like you have the contract to finish the entire duration of the campaign while you can bash his management and you getting paid for doing it. That's not going to happen. Would it be fair to the bounty manager you bitching around while you get paid by his campaign?
Give yourself a break @WaffleMaster.  
Oh yeah, I totally agree. After his behavior and incompetence I sent this pm, in the picture below. Basically I could no longer be a part of the campaign regardless if they wanted a do-over. Because of all the threats, withholding payment unfairly, being petty and calling me names, taunting me and all the other stuff. So now it's just about raising awareness around this terrible manager, his misconduct, threats and all that. Maybe people will think twice and not allow him to do this to anybody else. Technically I'm pretty sure that agreement would hold up in the court of law, it is a written agreement to return to normal, but we're not in court and we're not going there Grin

legendary
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I don't get why you push yourself into the campaign when all is over for you the bounty manager decides to cut you participation. He decides to terminate you from it, its not like you have the contract to finish the entire duration of the campaign. You can bash his management all the time and you getting paid for doing it. That's not going to happen. Would it be fair to the bounty manager you bitching around while you get paid by his campaign?
Give yourself a break @WaffleMaster.  
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And also scamming and lying and going back on an agreement worth $840 is nothing to you?
I'm confused. Where is the part where he scammed you? You were only entitled a $120 work for a week and as far as I can see you have only done 1 week of "work". He agreed to pay you that and yet you ramble here with your butthurt because you can't get what you want. He's the one managing the campaign and he has the rights to deny anyone.
As for that $840 you keep mentioning, it's not like it will go in his pocket. He will use it to pay that someone else who he hired as a replacement.
Just take the money shut up and move on with your life.

This argument of yours will go nowhere.
Ahhh, newly made troll accounts coming out now. That's how you know when you start winning the moral high ground Grin Kidding, but really it is quite telling.

So, besides these points already being mentioned and completely thought through and penetrated logically with empirical evidence, I guess I'll entertain this. Only briefly.

Agreeing to make everything fixed and return it to normal would have included me back in the campaign among the payment being for 25 posts instead of 18. I deleted my stuff as per the agreement, and then the campaign manager didn't follow through. IE they lied. IE they scammed me by not holding up their end of the deal, which they literally agreed to. (I suppose I must keep posting these pictures just so people can get some context). Just so happens this was worth $840 in profit potential, which I would have easily claimed if the campaign manager had not been so bad at managing and acting in bad faith. I'm sure you've seen the other photos. Notice how I use the term "shorting me payment" because I understand managers have the right to kick people out as they choose, it is what everybody agrees to in the rules. However, when a separate agreement is made to negate that and correct errors, that is something else entirely that sits on top of those previous agreements. Make sense?





Yes, a campaign manager can choose to remove people. He did that to me in error. That's fine, I pointed the error out and asked him to fix everything and bring it back to normal. He said he would fix everything and It would be normal. He didn't, that's a scam. And it's worth $840 in future campaign earnings. But you don't care, it didn't happen to you. So we should probably just drop it and let it happen to somebody else too? No.
jr. member
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And also scamming and lying and going back on an agreement worth $840 is nothing to you?
I'm confused. Where is the part where he scammed you? You were only entitled a $120 for a week and as far as I can see you have only done 1 week of "work". He agreed to pay you that and yet you ramble here with your butthurt because you can't get what you want. He's the one managing the campaign and he has the rights to deny anyone.
As for that $840 you keep mentioning, it's not like it will go into his pocket. He will use it to pay that someone else who he hired as a replacement.
Just take the money shut up and move on with your life.

This argument of yours will go nowhere.
hero member
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You are saying that you have decided not to let him/her into any of your campaigns? Why are you arguing then? You pay them for their posts and say you are out, There is nothing more to this.
I know you don't believe that. There's a lot more to it, as you can see. This campaign is heavily damaged now because of the words and actions of the manager who made a lot of mistakes and broke many rules.
I think you are missing the point here, You participated, posted and received the payment, Now you're out.
Whether the manager agreed to enroll you back or not, That's the manager's decision. You are not owed anything by anyone. One of the rules of every campaign is that the manager has the right to deny or accept anyone they want, You have been denied and they have already paid for your posts made last week.
They kicked me out in error and reduced my payment unfairly, and in error. They then accepted and stated they would fix everything and things would return to normal. These images mean nothing to you? And also scamming and lying and going back on an agreement worth $840 is nothing to you? They agreed to all of that AFTER the first terms and conditions, which means it overrules it. Your logic doesn't hold up at all. You don't care whether or not they agreed to something in writing? Which THEY DID agree to. These honestly feel like alts LOL because every logical counterpoint I make, which is held up by evidence, doesn't seem to phase you people with random opinions based on flimsy arguments. You keen on talking about payment? Talk about these payment interactions then.







hero member
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You are saying that you have decided not to let him/her into any of your campaigns? Why are you arguing then? You pay them for their posts and say you are out, There is nothing more to this.
I know you don't believe that. There's a lot more to it, as you can see. This campaign is heavily damaged now because of the words and actions of the manager who made a lot of mistakes and broke many rules.
I think you are missing the point here, You participated, posted and received the payment, Now you're out.
Whether the manager agreed to enroll you back or not, That's the manager's decision. You are not owed anything by anyone. One of the rules of every campaign is that the manager has the right to deny or accept anyone they want, You have been denied and they have already paid for your posts made last week.
hero member
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You are saying that you have decided not to let him/her into any of your campaigns? Why are you arguing then? You pay them for their posts and say you are out, There is nothing more to this.
I know you don't believe that. There's a lot more to it, as you can see. This campaign is heavily damaged now because of the words and actions of the manager who made a lot of mistakes and broke many rules.
hero member
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You are saying that you have decided not to let him/her into any of your campaigns? Why are you arguing then? You pay them for their posts and say you are out, There is nothing more to this.
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Since he is getting paid for his work, why shouldn't he be obligated to delete his messed up messages?
The only reason he isn't deleting them is because he's mad that he lost out on a nice earning potential.

He's just full of spit; he wasn't scammed.
Since you agreed to let me back in the campaign, why shouldn't you be obligated to hold up to that arrangement which was also included in me deleting the posts?HuhHuh You literally just check mated yourself admitting that you're scamming me for $840 in 7 weeks potential payments (If I follow the rules) because you agreed to make everything right, which includes payment and putting me back in cus I was taken out in error. You are fully in the wrong, and you even just admitted it further.

 Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh

No one is scamming you.  And I never said you were committed to my Campaign for 7 weeks.

You must not know how Campaigns work, cause that's not how it goes.   Sorry to break it to you....

Fact is, I don't owe you a damn thing if I don't want to pay you to be in my Campaign for 7 weeks.

And no one will be accepting you into any more Campaigns on this forum, that's for sure  Wink



Since he is getting paid for his work, why shouldn't he be obligated to delete his messed up messages?
The only reason he isn't deleting them is because he's mad that he lost out on a nice earning potential.

He's just full of spit; he wasn't scammed.
Since you agreed to let me back in the campaign, why shouldn't you be obligated to hold up to that arrangement which was also included in me deleting the posts?HuhHuh You literally just check mated yourself admitting that you're scamming me for $840 in 7 weeks potential payments (If I follow the rules) because you agreed to make everything right, which includes payment and putting me back in cus I was taken out in error. You are fully in the wrong, and you even just admitted it further.

 Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh

He literally just used logic that applied to both parties to try and discredit what I am owed but not what his duties are in the agreement.

And again, your straw man argument. You agreed to fix everything about the error you made in miscounting the posts which resulted in lesser payment and me being kicked from the campaign. You did not, and that is a scam on an agreement you made, which is written and documented.

You taunting me constantly is not a very good look for your companies that paid you to run things, and look how you run them. You run them into the ground with improper management of campaigns and scams. I would be as petty as you and say that your days as a campaign manager are very effected by this too, but I won't, because I'm honestly not going down morally to insult you like you have tried to insult me.

One last thing, how in the world am I "scamming" you when I have told you that your payment is on the way.

If I was "scamming" you, I wouldn't have admitted my wrongdoing and agreed to pay you.

That's what being "scammed" is; not what I'm doing.

Sounds like you just like throwing out the words "extortion," "blackmail" and "scam."

These might clarify things!





legendary
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Since he is getting paid for his work, why shouldn't he be obligated to delete his messed up messages?
The only reason he isn't deleting them is because he's mad that he lost out on a nice earning potential.

He's just full of spit; he wasn't scammed.
Since you agreed to let me back in the campaign, why shouldn't you be obligated to hold up to that arrangement which was also included in me deleting the posts?HuhHuh You literally just check mated yourself admitting that you're scamming me for $840 in 7 weeks potential payments (If I follow the rules) because you agreed to make everything right, which includes payment and putting me back in cus I was taken out in error. You are fully in the wrong, and you even just admitted it further.

 Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh

No one is scamming you.  And I never said you were committed to my Campaign for 7 weeks.

You must not know how Campaigns work, cause that's not how it goes.   Sorry to break it to you....

Fact is, I don't owe you a damn thing if I don't want to pay you to be in my Campaign for 7 weeks.

And no one will be accepting you into any more Campaigns on this forum, that's for sure  Wink
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Since he is getting paid for his work, why shouldn't he be obligated to delete his messed up messages?
The only reason he isn't deleting them is because he's mad that he lost out on a nice earning potential.

He's just full of spit; he wasn't scammed.
Since you agreed to let me back in the campaign, why shouldn't you be obligated to hold up to that arrangement which was also included in me deleting the posts?HuhHuh You literally just check mated yourself admitting that you're scamming me for $840 in 7 weeks potential payments (If I follow the rules) because you agreed to make everything right, which includes payment and putting me back in cus I was taken out in error. You are fully in the wrong, and you even just admitted it further.

 Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh

He literally just used logic that applied to both parties to try and discredit what I am owed but not what his duties are in the agreement.
legendary
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No one got scammed in this situation. Admission of error and paid what is to be paid.

You were trying to delete all those messed up messages in the thread of course, its a marketing job I can understand that because you are trying to market the casino site.

$840 in potential earnings Smiley I can also understand why WaffleMaster wants to be in the campaign but the damage has been done already wit this accusation threads, terminating his participation in the campaign I guess wouldn't be undo  too. You both give each other negative trust. All that's left is to go on with your lives now.

Since he is getting paid for his work, why shouldn't he be obligated to delete his messed up messages?
The only reason he isn't deleting them is because he's mad that he lost out on a nice earning potential.

He's just full of spit; he wasn't scammed.
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No one got scammed in this situation. Admission of error and paid what is to be paid.

You were trying to delete all those messed up messages in the thread of course, its a marketing job I can understand that because you are trying to market the casino site.

$840 in potential earnings Smiley I can also understand why WaffleMaster wants to be in the campaign but the damage has been done already wit this accusation threads, terminating his participation in the campaign I guess wouldn't be undo  too. You both give each other negative trust. All that's left is to go on with your lives now.
hero member
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One last thing, how in the world am I "scamming" you when I have told you that your payment is on the way.

If I was "scamming" you, I wouldn't have admitted my wrongdoing and agreed to pay you.

That's what being "scammed" is; not what I'm doing.

Sounds like you just like throwing out the words "extortion," "blackmail" and "scam."
You admitted fault and agreed to "make everything right". Then you proceed to scam me from having everything right by removing me from the campaign, which is $840 in potential earnings. You lied about making everything right after agreeing to it, which is scamming. And the total amount is $840 in potential earnings, which I would have received because I was always compliant with the rules.





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Sounds like you just like throwing out the words "extortion," "blackmail" and "scam."
You are throwing those words around. You think I was blackmailing you because I was waiting 24 hours to give you time to fix the scam of only paying me for 18 posts instead of 25. Anybody can read it and see I wasn't threatening you but giving you time to read the message. People need to sleep and work, so that is very fair.
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One last thing, how in the world am I "scamming" you when I have told you that your payment is on the way.

If I was "scamming" you, I wouldn't have admitted my wrongdoing and agreed to pay you.

That's what being "scammed" is; not what I'm doing.

Sounds like you just like throwing out the words "extortion," "blackmail" and "scam."
legendary
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Your sense of entitlement is sickening and for the 100th time, I don't owe you anything, including paying you for participating in my anymore of my Campaigns.

I booted you for, among other reasons, the fact that I added someone who is a better poster than you.

I'm so sorry, but that's just how it works.

I dropped you (Hero) and added a Legendary Member, who also happens to be more reliable then you.

hero member
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Yeah, for the last time, you took it out of context.

You are getting your money, what the hell else do you want?

Oh that's right, to be back in my Campaign.

Well, you can forget about that.

Nothing else you say matters at this point.

Goodbye
You agreed to make everything right, which includes putting me back in the campaign and now you are not going to do with what you agreed to. That is scamming $900.



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