Topic: JETWIN | SPORTS & CASINO | #1 FOR IN-PLAY BETTING - page 123. (Read 173608 times)

Anonymous accounts will be available today. The TC under discussion will not apply to these accounts.

We do not copy Pinnacle odds. It is easy to notice that proportionally our odds for each side are significantly different from Pinnacle lines’ proportions. Moreover, to provide our clients with a wider range of betting opportunities, and thus an enhanced betting experience, JETWIN will double the portfolio of its Pre-match Odds with new and interesting markets within a few months. These markets belong to Soccer, Basketball, Handball, Ice Hockey, Baseball, Football, Rugby Union and Rugby League.
As concerns charge of certain leagues, thank you for your feedback – we will reconsider allocated profit for some of them during the nearest week. 

Who cares about the juice when really what should stop every player from trying out this book is their terms and conditions. They're designed so that if you are a winner they'll find some absurd way to make you end up a loser. Took 60 second look at Terms and conditions and never spent another second on their site and never will. Their loss.

"If a company does not follow these rules it is considered to be a big red flag."

We better red flag Pinnacle Sports then, they obviously don't know what they're doing.

E.g., they are offering Philippine Basketball with a 10 cent line (-105/-105).
I see that I was too kind mentioning your 50 cent lines - you have a 58 cent line for the same Meralco Bolts game (-129/-129).


I doubt you have a Philippine BB expert on staff to handle that one game.

You are probably doing what almost every other book does -
a) Clone Pinnacle lines.
b) Offer a lower limit than Pinnacle.
c) Charge higher juice than Pinnacle [You've succeeded at this]
d) Use software which moves on air when Pinnacle moves.

Yet with all those protections, you feel that to protect your book you need to charge 23% more than Pinnacle?

That is strictly a ripoff. The only people you will get action from on games with that juice are lost newbies. Or hopeless degens betting their last few Satoshis.
And I don't imagine any of them will become loyal customers once they realize how much they've been overpaying.

As we have already stated, to run JETWIN responsibly is our main priority. We offer lines with odds -108/-108 (EU 1,92/1,92)  for the basic bet types of top leagues (MLB, NBA, NCAA, NHL, NFL, EPL, etc.) Smaller leagues and competitions is a matter of a high risk for any bookmaker. Therefore, to offer lines of great profit of these leagues – is an unspoken rule and common practice in this business. If a company does not follow these rules it is considered to be a big red flag.

50 cent lines for some pointspread sports (-125/-125).

Can't be too careful when you're gambling.

Approximately in two weeks

Waiting for you affiliate program ... , Do you have any news? Thanks

You are going very good but still need live betting then you could be leading betting side here in this community

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We are glad to see the constantly increasing number of educated, knowing bettors in the gambling community. It is always easier to work when a player examines the rules of the certain bookmaker in advance and to the full extent. It allows avoiding unnecessary conflict situations. We do not force anyone to take part in our bonus promotions. Each promotion has its certain rules which are published on the website. It is up to a customer whether to agree with them or not. As we have previously mentioned, more than half of our users who participated in this promotion have successfully completed rollover and we received only a few remarks regarding bonus rules.

Moreover, anonymous accounts will be available in the nearest future. All the above mentioned rules will not be applied to these accounts; however, they will have certain limitations: anonymous accounts won't be eligible for any bonus and they will have smaller stakes limits as compared to full accounts.

JETWIN is not associated with any member of this forum.

I see that world class scammer AK says "we".
Is he associated with your book?
[I'm not stating that he is - just curious].


[It's also great that humanitarian AK takes time out from extorting money from books in return for positive reviews, and being arrested for passing bad checks, to post regarding his concern that minors not be allowed to use btc books].

"2. All bonuses offered are intended for recreation customers only. Betting “Steam Plays” or “Moves”, engaging in arbitrage or hedge betting, shall all be considered irregular gaming for bonus play-through requirement purposes. Accounts identified or suspected as irregular gaming type are subject to have their status changed to ‘PFD Trading’. ‘PFD Trading’ status does not allow an account holder to place any bets except Multi Bets, where odds of each event are not less than 1/2 (1,50), and at least two events have an identical start time."

Beautiful.

Someone follows a poster on a forum, and bets his plays. Several others who read the forum also do this. Two or more of them happen to have accounts at Jetwin.

You declare this to be irregular gaming (totally at your discretion), and they now can only bet restrictive parlays.

They have to do this or you confiscate their funds if they opted for your bonus.

I imagine you also restrict their max bet, making it impossible or nearly so to reach the rollover amount to prevent your confiscation.

swainzag - "Obviously I missed the 2nd page of term and conditions rather than the ones listed on just the promotions page."

It's easy to understand swainzag's comment. You have numerous non-traditional non-industry standard rules, yet you don't mention these on the primary page citing the promotion.

Normally when a company posts "See our T & C at this link..." it is because there is a lot of boilerplate language, and people frequently skip reading it for that reason.


swainzag - "I will do my best to fullfill the ridiculous terms and transfer my BTC elsewhere."

Easy to understand this comment as well.

BOOKMAKER - "Many bookies have restrictions on rollover length. Here are a few examples:

BWIN:
-    Bonus type: Withdrawal restricted. Bonus funds are available to play with, but cannot be withdrawn until the requirements are met.
-   Time to unrestrict bonus: 365 days.
Betsson:
-   The activated bonus must be wagered within 30 days upon requesting withdrawal.
-   Bonus money left on the account after 30 days will be forfeited.
MyBet:
-   Before your winnings can be withdrawn, you must turn over the deposit amount at least once and the bonus amount at least 5 times within 60 days. Stakes can be placed on one or more sports bets with a minimum odd of 2.00.

These restrictions help a bookmaker to understand better the betting pattern of each customer and increase the amount of betting action of each customer."


There's a big difference between putting a time restriction on rollover length, and confiscating winnings.

"...the bonus amount and all winnings will be forfeited if the deposit and bonus rollover requirements are not met within 90 days of bonus credit."


I don't see any of the examples you've cited doing this.

For what it's worth, sportsbookreview rates the 3 books you cite respectively as B-, C+, and D.

"SBR recommends players choose sportsbooks with a minimum rating of B+"

"A- to A+    Elite, top 1% of all Sportsbooks, Highest safety & quality.

B- to B+   Good, minimal risk to players funds. Top 10% of all books.

C- to C+    Average to below average cust. Service with some risk to players funds.

D- to D+    Poor, some risk to players funds. Poor customer service, etc.

F   Outright scam, book on brink of failure."




"11. In order to fulfill promotional rollover requirements a player is to place one or several Multi Bets in the amount that should equal the sum of the bonus received. These bets have to contain at least two events which simultaneously meet the following criteria: they start at the same time; odds of each event are not less than 1,50 (US Odds -200; Fractional Odds 1/2)."

Please tell me that I am misunderstanding this item.

It appears that there has to be at least one parlay bet placed wagering the total bonus amount received?
And the parlay has to have 2 events with the same start time and odds not more expensive than 1.50.

I've never seen such restrictive terms:

10x rollover of deposit plus bonus amount.


Additionally:

" 6. Only wagers that generate a win/loss return will contribute to the promotional rollover requirement.

7. Bets placed on «Outright» markets do not count towards any rollover requirement. Multi Bet which contains selection belonging to the above-mentioned bet type similarly will not be counted towards the rollover requirements.

8. Bets made below (Decimal Odds 1.5; US Odds -200; Fractional Odds 1/2) and void, tie, cancelled will not be counted towards the rollover requirements.

9. All deposit bonuses must be turned over on any bet, with a maximum bet amount of $75 (or currency equivalent: EUR 55; GBP 45; CAD 75; SEK 475; mBTC 75). If the bet is worth more than $75, only $75 will be counted towards the wagering requirement.

10. For wagering purposes only the first bet qualifies in one single event. Example on the match Arsenal vs Chelsea only the first bet qualifies and “following bets” will not count towards the rollover requirements.

11. In order to fulfill promotional rollover requirements a player is to place one or several Multi Bets in the amount that should equal the sum of the bonus received. These bets have to contain at least two events which simultaneously meet the following criteria: they start at the same time; odds of each event are not less than 1,50 (US Odds -200; Fractional Odds 1/2)."

And items 6 thru 11 are not mentioned nor alluded to on your primary Bonus Promotion page, yet these are non-standard rules.


"9. All deposit bonuses must be turned over on any bet, with a maximum bet amount of $75 (or currency equivalent: EUR 55; GBP 45; CAD 75; SEK 475; mBTC 75). If the bet is worth more than $75, only $75 will be counted towards the wagering requirement."

I don't understand what "All deposit bonuses must be turned over on any bet..." means.




Also - "...with a maximum bet amount of $75 (or currency equivalent: EUR 55; GBP 45; CAD 75; SEK 475; mBTC 75)"

mBTC = mili bitcoin = 1 thousandth of a bitcoin = 0.001BTC

So if a deposit is made with a Bitcoin, the maximum amount that will count towards rollover on every bet (regardless of the actual amount bet) is .0075 BTC?

Nice promotion!

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