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Swainzag - "Man those regulations on the welcome bonus are brutal.

'Your initial deposit PLUS the bonus must be turned over at least 10 times and all bets below -200 will not be counted before you can make ANY withdrawal, AND the bonus amount and all winnings will be forfeited if the deposit and bonus rollover requirements are not met within 90 days of bonus credit'. "




Jetwin - "To run a sportsbook responsibly is one of Jetwin’s top priorities.

When approving bonus Terms and Conditions we strived to make them acceptable for our clients to the utmost degree. At the same time, we kept in mind that too flexible Terms and Conditions could become a threat for the Company. Many newbie bookies have paid dearly for not giving much attention to this issue."




There's nothing wrong with striving to run a sportsbook responsibly.

But how are you protecting yourself by insisting that the rollover for a bonus has to be completed withing 90 days?

What if it took 91 days? Or for that matter, 191 days?
How does the sportsbook suffer?

"...the bonus amount and all winnings will be forfeited if the deposit and bonus rollover requirements are not met within 90 days of bonus credit.

Do you award the bonus amount into the customer's account at once, but they can't withdraw it?
Why not hold onto the bonus amount in its entirety until the rollover is complete?
And then if the rollover is not completed within 90 days, they forfeit the bonus amount.

Confiscating winnings because someone takes longer than 90 days to roll is something I've never encountered before, and is a questionable practice.

For that matter, I've never seen a sportsbook put a time limit on a rollover before.
I have seen it occasionally with online poker rooms, but there is no confiscation of winnings if the rollover is not completed.

The book shouldn't have any rules that take a shot at the player, and vice versa.
This strikes me as taking a shot at the player, even if it is announced in advance.



Many bookies have restrictions on rollover length. Here are a few examples:

BWIN:
-    Bonus type: Withdrawal restricted. Bonus funds are available to play with, but cannot be withdrawn until the requirements are met.
-   Time to unrestrict bonus: 365 days.
Betsson:
-   The activated bonus must be wagered within 30 days upon requesting withdrawal.
-   Bonus money left on the account after 30 days will be forfeited.
MyBet:
-   Before your winnings can be withdrawn, you must turn over the deposit amount at least once and the bonus amount at least 5 times within 60 days. Stakes can be placed on one or more sports bets with a minimum odd of 2.00.

These restrictions help a bookmaker to understand better the betting pattern of each customer and increase the amount of betting action of each customer.

Whether or not you participate in the promotion is entirely up to you and it would be worth noting that during four months of the existence of this promotion more than half of our users have successfully completed rollover, which on the average has taken up twenty six days.
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Swainzag - "Man those regulations on the welcome bonus are brutal.

'Your initial deposit PLUS the bonus must be turned over at least 10 times and all bets below -200 will not be counted before you can make ANY withdrawal, AND the bonus amount and all winnings will be forfeited if the deposit and bonus rollover requirements are not met within 90 days of bonus credit'. "




Jetwin - "To run a sportsbook responsibly is one of Jetwin’s top priorities.

When approving bonus Terms and Conditions we strived to make them acceptable for our clients to the utmost degree. At the same time, we kept in mind that too flexible Terms and Conditions could become a threat for the Company. Many newbie bookies have paid dearly for not giving much attention to this issue."




There's nothing wrong with striving to run a sportsbook responsibly.

But how are you protecting yourself by insisting that the rollover for a bonus has to be completed withing 90 days?

What if it took 91 days? Or for that matter, 191 days?
How does the sportsbook suffer?

"...the bonus amount and all winnings will be forfeited if the deposit and bonus rollover requirements are not met within 90 days of bonus credit.

Do you award the bonus amount into the customer's account at once, but they can't withdraw it?
Why not hold onto the bonus amount in its entirety until the rollover is complete?
And then if the rollover is not completed within 90 days, they forfeit the bonus amount.

Confiscating winnings because someone takes longer than 90 days to roll is something I've never encountered before, and is a questionable practice.

For that matter, I've never seen a sportsbook put a time limit on a rollover before.
I have seen it occasionally with online poker rooms, but there is no confiscation of winnings if the rollover is not completed.

The book shouldn't have any rules that take a shot at the player, and vice versa.
This strikes me as taking a shot at the player, even if it is announced in advance.

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                                  Barclays Premier League fixtures


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Amazing sportsbook! I never seen a bitcoin sportsbook with this many options (asian,handicap,totals,exact results) for all games/sports, great graphics that are as good or better than old bitbook's.
-all major sport matches were graded in less than a minute and small tennis tournament just took half an hour
-the odds were some of the best with a pretty small juice
-deposit and withdrawal were instant
Though I lost my initial bets, I am sure I will be moving there. you made a beautiful thing there Smiley
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JETWIN offers unbeatable Pre-match Odds portfolio:

League                Markets available
NBA                           15
NCAA                         14
NHL                           43
EPL                            38


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UEFA Champions League

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      Manchester Utd vs Olympiacos FC              1.45 (-222)     4.40 (+340)    6.60 (+560) +37

      Borussia Dortmund vs Zenit St Petersburg    1.35 (-285)     5.20 (+420)    7.30(+660) +34
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UEFA Champions League

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      Real Madrid vs FC Schalke 04              1.24 (+-416)     6.80 (+580)    9.60 (+819) +36

      Chelsea FC vs Galatasaray Istanbul      1.40 (-250)       4.70 (+370)    8.00 (+700) +37
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Russian locale added

The Russian speaking Customer Service is also available.
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Our unbeatable odds coverage continues to expand: 40+ Ice Hockey markets are implemented and ready to bet on.

Great range of bets, outstanding usability, fair odds – we do our best to give you an exciting betting experience. Thank you for betting with us!
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F1 Australian Grand Prix


29  Head-2-Head Bets & Outright markets


               Enjoy the action!
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                                    Barclays Premier League


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      Stoke City vs West Ham Utd     2.35 (+135)     3.15 (+215)    3.30 (+229)

      Aston Villa vs Chelsea FC         6.40 (+540)     4.05 (+305)    1.55 (-181)



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We advise to read carefully the corresponding rules in order to avoid any misunderstandings each time we talk about bonus with our clients. Every client is important to us; therefore, we put all efforts to assure a top-quality service. Sometimes bonus Terms and Conditions are too complex to be understood by an ordinary user. We’ll do our best to make them simpler.
As to statistical data mentioned previously as an example, we can specify that the average size of a deposit was $276,20.


Haha thank you for down playing my intelligence.  Obviously I missed the 2nd page of term and conditions rather than the ones listed on just the promotions page.  I will do my best to fullfill the ridiculous terms and transfer my BTC elsewhere. Thank you for the replies though.
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We advise to read carefully the corresponding rules in order to avoid any misunderstandings each time we talk about bonus with our clients. Every client is important to us; therefore, we put all efforts to assure a top-quality service. Sometimes bonus Terms and Conditions are too complex to be understood by an ordinary user. We’ll do our best to make them simpler.
As to statistical data mentioned previously as an example, we can specify that the average size of a deposit was $276,20.
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Man those regulations on the welcome bonus are brutal. 

"Your initial deposit PLUS the bonus must be turned over at least 10 times and all bets below -200 will not be counted before you can make ANY withdrawal, AND the bonus amount and all winnings will be forfeited if the deposit and bonus rollover requirements are not met within 90 days of bonus credit"

Why do I have to match my initial deposit as well as the bonus 10 times to be able to withdrawal?  If I put in $300 and get $300 through the bonus, I have to roll over $600 10 times at those bet restrictions to withdrawal?  Why not just the bonus amount?  That requires so many bets, especially successful bets to even be able to withdrawal my original amount!

its just 10 time I have one site now closed they need to do bonus rollover in 50 times then we can withdraw here all is ok but they need to settle 2 things one 90 days option and second -200 because these both things not good enough
To run a sportsbook responsibly is one of Jetwin’s top priorities.

When approving bonus Terms and Conditions we strived to make them acceptable for our clients to the utmost degree. At the same time, we kept in mind that too flexible Terms and Conditions could become a threat for the Company. Many newbie bookies have paid dearly for not giving much attention to this issue. On the other hand, lots of customers have suffered and lost their money, participating in either ‘too good to be true’ bonus promotions or in such promotions which were blatantly fraudulent.
So far, we are not going to change our Terms and Conditions. We did our best to find the golden mean between protection against bonus abuse and user-friendliness. Unlike most other companies, we provide our clients who participate in the above-mentioned promotion with exhaustive and detailed information on the process of rollover fulfillment. Everything happens in automatic mode, errors excepted. Both sides, the bookmaker and the customer must fulfill all necessary requirements. Whether or not you participate in the promotion is entirely up to you.

Finally, it would be worth noting that during four months of the existence of this promotion more than half of our users have successfully completed rollover, which on the average has taken up twenty six days.


I mis-read the fine print when it said you must rollover your initial deposit AND the bonus amount.  If I would have seen this I would have gone elsewhere, which is my fault.  Just posting on here for others to see.  In your rules you should mention something about not being able to use a common event more than once, whether it is in a parlay or not.  As far as I could tell that is not included in the rules. 

If I bet straight up on Team A at -110

then make a parlay with Team A, Team B and Team C for +410, why shouldn't I be able to credit for both going towards my bonus?

There is also nothing in rules that I have found that says only $75 per bet goes towards your roll over bonus as well.....which apparently is a rule judging by my betting history.

I will keep betting there and work towards my bonus, just sharing my feelings on the bonus as a whole.  I do understand with 100% match that you need to have rules in place or quite simply you just lose money, but you would think there would be a happier medium for the customer. 

What was the average deposit of users that successfully completed the rollover? 
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Man those regulations on the welcome bonus are brutal. 

"Your initial deposit PLUS the bonus must be turned over at least 10 times and all bets below -200 will not be counted before you can make ANY withdrawal, AND the bonus amount and all winnings will be forfeited if the deposit and bonus rollover requirements are not met within 90 days of bonus credit"

Why do I have to match my initial deposit as well as the bonus 10 times to be able to withdrawal?  If I put in $300 and get $300 through the bonus, I have to roll over $600 10 times at those bet restrictions to withdrawal?  Why not just the bonus amount?  That requires so many bets, especially successful bets to even be able to withdrawal my original amount!

its just 10 time I have one site now closed they need to do bonus rollover in 50 times then we can withdraw here all is ok but they need to settle 2 things one 90 days option and second -200 because these both things not good enough
To run a sportsbook responsibly is one of Jetwin’s top priorities.

When approving bonus Terms and Conditions we strived to make them acceptable for our clients to the utmost degree. At the same time, we kept in mind that too flexible Terms and Conditions could become a threat for the Company. Many newbie bookies have paid dearly for not giving much attention to this issue. On the other hand, lots of customers have suffered and lost their money, participating in either ‘too good to be true’ bonus promotions or in such promotions which were blatantly fraudulent.
So far, we are not going to change our Terms and Conditions. We did our best to find the golden mean between protection against bonus abuse and user-friendliness. Unlike most other companies, we provide our clients who participate in the above-mentioned promotion with exhaustive and detailed information on the process of rollover fulfillment. Everything happens in automatic mode, errors excepted. Both sides, the bookmaker and the customer must fulfill all necessary requirements. Whether or not you participate in the promotion is entirely up to you.

Finally, it would be worth noting that during four months of the existence of this promotion more than half of our users have successfully completed rollover, which on the average has taken up twenty six days.
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I hope they will do some good things in next few days because after closing of bitbook this site have too much potential to grow very fast they need to be some more professional and one thing more they need to add some live events also
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Man those regulations on the welcome bonus are brutal.  

"Your initial deposit PLUS the bonus must be turned over at least 10 times and all bets below -200 will not be counted before you can make ANY withdrawal, AND the bonus amount and all winnings will be forfeited if the deposit and bonus rollover requirements are not met within 90 days of bonus credit"

Why do I have to match my initial deposit as well as the bonus 10 times to be able to withdrawal?  If I put in $300 and get $300 through the bonus, I have to roll over $600 10 times at those bet restrictions to withdrawal?  Why not just the bonus amount?  That requires so many bets, especially successful bets to even be able to withdrawal my original amount!

its just 10 time I have one site now closed they need to do bonus rollover in 50 times then we can withdraw here all is ok but they need to settle 2 things one 90 days option and second -200 because these both things not good enough

I agree with both of those things.  I edited my last post to say this too but, it seems $75 is the max bet for the bonus which I think is crazy.  If I am willing to risk more than that on a bet, the entire amount should go towards my bonus turnover.

Also: If I bet straight up on team A and it qualifies for the bonus, if I make a 3 team parlay with Team A in it it doesn't count either.  It is a separate bet with different stakes!  There needs to be some leeway here, especially within 90 days!
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Man those regulations on the welcome bonus are brutal. 

"Your initial deposit PLUS the bonus must be turned over at least 10 times and all bets below -200 will not be counted before you can make ANY withdrawal, AND the bonus amount and all winnings will be forfeited if the deposit and bonus rollover requirements are not met within 90 days of bonus credit"

Why do I have to match my initial deposit as well as the bonus 10 times to be able to withdrawal?  If I put in $300 and get $300 through the bonus, I have to roll over $600 10 times at those bet restrictions to withdrawal?  Why not just the bonus amount?  That requires so many bets, especially successful bets to even be able to withdrawal my original amount!

its just 10 time I have one site now closed they need to do bonus rollover in 50 times then we can withdraw here all is ok but they need to settle 2 things one 90 days option and second -200 because these both things not good enough
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Man those regulations on the welcome bonus are brutal.  

"Your initial deposit PLUS the bonus must be turned over at least 10 times and all bets below -200 will not be counted before you can make ANY withdrawal, AND the bonus amount and all winnings will be forfeited if the deposit and bonus rollover requirements are not met within 90 days of bonus credit"

Why do I have to match my initial deposit as well as the bonus 10 times to be able to withdrawal?  If I put in $300 and get $300 through the bonus, I have to roll over $600 10 times at those bet restrictions to withdrawal?  Why not just the bonus amount?  That requires so many bets, especially successful bets to even be able to withdrawal my original amount!

Also, is the limit for "qualifying offers" for the promotion $75 per bet?  Makes it pretty hard to rollover $6000, "$300 deposit and $300 bonus" 10 times if that is truly the match.  That's 80 bets at the max of $75 per bet.  Pretty insane and crazy rules for a promo of $300 if you ask me, especially without letting anyone even withdrawal their original amount.
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