John McAfee wants to sell you a $100 gadget that blocks the NSA

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Quote from: herzmeister on November 02, 2013, 08:01:39 PM

Quote from: nimda on November 02, 2013, 11:58:29 AM

Actually, never mind that. That doesn't bother me. What bothers me is how terrible McAfee Antivirus is. How can you block the NSA if you can't even write a usable UI?

guess you didn't get the memo, he sold the company looooong ago, and no, he doesn't know how to uninstall it either

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKgf5PaBzyg

This is great. I take it back, now I might be in the market for his product. Murder allegations be damned, it was a pretty funny story while he hid in his own complex.

Then again, one has to wonder at the NSA-avoidance capacity of the guy who got caught with image gps metadata.

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Quote from: luv2drnkbr on November 03, 2013, 01:26:43 AM

So he's building a router with Retroshare as firmware basically.

(Yes, I know that's not firmware, but it seemed a good way to get my thought across.)

Assuming he's actually doing it and not just saying he is. People like him sometimes float vaporware concepts just to see who's interested.

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So he's building a router with Retroshare as firmware basically.

(Yes, I know that's not firmware, but it seemed a good way to get my thought across.)

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Is it a piece of paper that says "get off the internet"

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Quote from: nimda on November 02, 2013, 11:58:29 AM

John wanted-for-murder McAfee?

Actually, never mind that. That doesn't bother me. What bothers me is how terrible McAfee Antivirus is. How can you block the NSA if you can't even write a usable UI?

What's funny is how desperate McAfee the corporation is to distance itself from its namesake, when even being wanted for murder, McAfee is probably more wanting to distance himself from the corporation he started. I'd rather have McAfee the maybe-murderer in my house (especially if he brings whatever weird research chemicals he has in his stash) then I would have that malware disguised as antivirus software on my computer.

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Quote from: herzmeister on November 02, 2013, 08:01:39 PM

Quote from: nimda on November 02, 2013, 11:58:29 AM

Actually, never mind that. That doesn't bother me. What bothers me is how terrible McAfee Antivirus is. How can you block the NSA if you can't even write a usable UI?

guess you didn't get the memo, he sold the company looooong ago, and no, he doesn't know how to uninstall it either

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKgf5PaBzyg

This is why he needs to be world leader

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Quote from: nimda on November 02, 2013, 11:58:29 AM

Actually, never mind that. That doesn't bother me. What bothers me is how terrible McAfee Antivirus is. How can you block the NSA if you can't even write a usable UI?

guess you didn't get the memo, he sold the company looooong ago, and no, he doesn't know how to uninstall it either

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKgf5PaBzyg

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John wanted-for-murder McAfee?

Actually, never mind that. That doesn't bother me. What bothers me is how terrible McAfee Antivirus is. How can you block the NSA if you can't even write a usable UI?

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If he's pro-bitcoin it means that he's open to more ideas. I wouldn't mind trying it out

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If it works and is easy to use, i will buy it.

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McAfee for world leader! Who's with me Cheesy

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Quote from: freethink2013 on October 30, 2013, 06:14:44 PM

Quote from: pinger on October 29, 2013, 12:53:50 PM

Quote from: darkmule on October 29, 2013, 10:44:45 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on October 29, 2013, 10:34:26 AM

Side note, Tomato could be extended to encompass a lot of the functions that McAffee talks about, but that doesn't mean it couldn't exist alongside his box. He'd probably like that...

The guy truly is nuts, but he knows what he's talking about. I think he'd probably go for some kind of open protocol on this that could be built into pretty much anything. He rolls that way.

I think it could be just a vpn on hardware or something like that. Will see it when he release it.

it's two things apparently, firstly it'll encrypt your comms but also if enough people have one it'll work like a mobile mesh wifi network

spontaneous encryption in a local mesh cannot be broken. i looked into this matter a while back based on a bet with a friend....

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Quote from: pinger on October 29, 2013, 12:53:50 PM

Quote from: darkmule on October 29, 2013, 10:44:45 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on October 29, 2013, 10:34:26 AM

Side note, Tomato could be extended to encompass a lot of the functions that McAffee talks about, but that doesn't mean it couldn't exist alongside his box. He'd probably like that...

The guy truly is nuts, but he knows what he's talking about. I think he'd probably go for some kind of open protocol on this that could be built into pretty much anything. He rolls that way.

I think it could be just a vpn on hardware or something like that. Will see it when he release it.

it's two things apparently, firstly it'll encrypt your comms but also if enough people have one it'll work like a mobile mesh wifi network

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Quote from: darkmule on October 29, 2013, 10:44:45 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on October 29, 2013, 10:34:26 AM

Side note, Tomato could be extended to encompass a lot of the functions that McAffee talks about, but that doesn't mean it couldn't exist alongside his box. He'd probably like that...

The guy truly is nuts, but he knows what he's talking about. I think he'd probably go for some kind of open protocol on this that could be built into pretty much anything. He rolls that way.

I think it could be just a vpn on hardware or something like that. Will see it when he release it.

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Quote from: Spendulus on October 29, 2013, 10:34:26 AM

Side note, Tomato could be extended to encompass a lot of the functions that McAffee talks about, but that doesn't mean it couldn't exist alongside his box. He'd probably like that...

The guy truly is nuts, but he knows what he's talking about. I think he'd probably go for some kind of open protocol on this that could be built into pretty much anything. He rolls that way.

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Quote from: darkmule on October 29, 2013, 10:17:07 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on October 29, 2013, 07:56:34 AM

I am not sure why the idea of 'a box' is necessary as these functions would preferably be built right into devices. And the entire OS in a router can be replaced with something like Tomato.

I love Tomato. I actually installed it first when I was trying to keep our wireless net up and available to all the tenants in my loft and get rid of the idiot on another floor who was not only sucking up bandwidth but getting me hit with threat letters from porn companies because of his unusual predilections. Also passwords weren't working because despite stern admonitions, people just gave out the password to anyone in the building. Bans by MAC address worked, though (someone who was less of an idiot would have worked around that but there were other ways), and redirects to a website on the server itself with Johnny Cash flipping them off and a "PAY FOR YOUR OWN INTERNET YOU THIEF" did the trick.

Also I was able to identify the idiot and redirect the porn-scum lawyers to him personally (as well as get his credit card numbers SSN etc. but I deleted that).

Cool story!

Side note, Tomato could be extended to encompass a lot of the functions that McAffee talks about, but that doesn't mean it couldn't exist alongside his box. He'd probably like that...

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Quote from: Spendulus on October 29, 2013, 07:56:34 AM

I am not sure why the idea of 'a box' is necessary as these functions would preferably be built right into devices. And the entire OS in a router can be replaced with something like Tomato.

I love Tomato. I actually installed it first when I was trying to keep our wireless net up and available to all the tenants in my loft and get rid of the idiot on another floor who was not only sucking up bandwidth but getting me hit with threat letters from porn companies because of his unusual predilections. Also passwords weren't working because despite stern admonitions, people just gave out the password to anyone in the building. Bans by MAC address worked, though (someone who was less of an idiot would have worked around that but there were other ways), and redirects to a website on the server itself with Johnny Cash flipping them off and a "PAY FOR YOUR OWN INTERNET YOU THIEF" did the trick.

Also I was able to identify the idiot and redirect the porn-scum lawyers to him personally (as well as get his credit card numbers SSN etc. but I deleted that).

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Quote from: darkmule on October 28, 2013, 10:42:42 AM

Quote from: 2dogs on October 26, 2013, 03:50:21 PM

Discuss: Is the guy still high on drugs or will he save the internet?

Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

Also, he's not talking about the Internet necessarily, but a local network that may or may not have a gateway to the larger global Internet, or may connect to other networks in some sort of an internet, or both. Mesh networking has been an idea for a while, and should have strong encryption built in at the hardware or firmware level. What's lacking is a ubiquitous, popular box that is so common that it won't stand out to be transmitting such signals in public (or that disguises itself as more mundane traffic).

if such a box had built in functions that encouraged different means of accomplishing ends, though, that would be huge. For example, it might encourage peer to peer email, destroying current server based email systems.

It might store entirely or partly, the last billion google searches, and disassociate search with user id.

I am not sure why the idea of 'a box' is necessary as these functions would preferably be built right into devices. And the entire OS in a router can be replaced with something like Tomato.

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Quote from: 2dogs on October 26, 2013, 03:50:21 PM

Discuss: Is the guy still high on drugs or will he save the internet?

Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

Also, he's not talking about the Internet necessarily, but a local network that may or may not have a gateway to the larger global Internet, or may connect to other networks in some sort of an internet, or both. Mesh networking has been an idea for a while, and should have strong encryption built in at the hardware or firmware level. What's lacking is a ubiquitous, popular box that is so common that it won't stand out to be transmitting such signals in public (or that disguises itself as more mundane traffic).

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well his box will have to use open source software so that it can be audited, otherwise he can make promises all day long.

and the hardware will be thoroughly examined i guess.

though i wonder why develop it in secret for so long, and not as an open project á la freedom box etc from the beginning?

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