I think we should definitely add a warning not to use MyBitcoin addresses until the problem has been found.
Topic: Join a pooled bitcoin mining effort - page 3. (Read 53323 times)
Thanks, BitLex & doublec!
Sounds like a MyBitcoin problem.
Sounds like a MyBitcoin problem.
I have the same problem using a MyBitcoin address. I reported a problem to them, and got this reply:
Quote
Hello,
The MyBitcoin addresses work exactly the same as regular Bitcoin addresses.
So, if you "generate on them" you should see a deposit on your MyBitcoin account.
I hope that helps.
Tom
The MyBitcoin addresses work exactly the same as regular Bitcoin addresses.
So, if you "generate on them" you should see a deposit on your MyBitcoin account.
I hope that helps.
Tom
So I got more specific with them and sent the block explorer info, the amount I was expecting, as well as the address that should have the credit. I'll report back what they say.
Nothing in Bitcoin's JSON-RPC can be used to see generations, apparently.
In rpc.cpp, you can see checks like this:
Removing the "wtx.IsCoinBase()" check should allow you to see the transactions. I haven't tried it, though -- maybe they won't be handled correctly.
In rpc.cpp, you can see checks like this:
Code:
if (wtx.IsCoinBase() || !wtx.IsFinal())
continue;
continue;
Removing the "wtx.IsCoinBase()" check should allow you to see the transactions. I haven't tried it, though -- maybe they won't be handled correctly.
Thanks, BitLex & doublec!
Sounds like a MyBitcoin problem.
Sounds like a MyBitcoin problem.
Pls. correct me, doublec, if this isn't so.
It isn't so. They are definitely 'generated'. If you look at the block you'll see the one generation block is split amongst all the addresses: http://blockexplorer.com/b/97017. Each of those addresses will have a 'Generated' transaction.
yes, your bitcents are generated on that address of yours,
they are not send by the server.
the glory of the pool.
they are not send by the server.
the glory of the pool.
but if they just check your funding-address/es for received coins, those generated coins might not show up on your account, cuz they haven't been received, but generated. 
But are "my" bitcents really generated?In my understanding, only the server gets all the generated coins and then the server sends the respective amount to all participants. And these will then receive coins...
Pls. correct me, doublec, if this isn't so.
Quote
Yepp, somewhere... but where is this "somewhere"? Not in my wallet.dat, yet.
my guess, in MyBitcoins wallet.i'm not sure how MyBitcoin checks your account balance, i havent used my account ever,
but if they just check your funding-address/es for received coins, those generated coins might not show up on your account, cuz they haven't been received, but generated.
i'm curious about their response.
those have to be somewhere.
Yepp, somewhere... but where is this "somewhere"? Not in my wallet.dat, yet.And it would be interesting whether there's another bitcoiner, whose cents got lost.
If no:
Than there has to be a problem on my side of the internet.
And if a newbie like me can make errors like this, every newbie can.
That should be cleared and find it's way into a "How not to use pool mining".
If yes:
Well... insert your own causal chain here.
So it was a MyBitcoin address? I wonder if anyone else used a MyBitcoin address and if they got their coins too?
The generated transactions appear differently in clients. They show as 'Generated' and don't become usable for 120 blocks. Non-gui clients can't even see them or access them in any way using bitcoind until that 120 block period has passed. Possibly something in the way MyBitcoin is setup stopped them from picking up that you got coins?
Have you tried contacting them?
Trying to get money from the faucet through MyBitcoin... waiting... got it, though it's not confirmed yet. As expected.The generated transactions appear differently in clients. They show as 'Generated' and don't become usable for 120 blocks. Non-gui clients can't even see them or access them in any way using bitcoind until that 120 block period has passed. Possibly something in the way MyBitcoin is setup stopped them from picking up that you got coins?
Have you tried contacting them?
Ok, I'm trying to contact them.
In the meantime: Anyone else has this problem?
BTW: Now I'm running the pooled mining client with a bitcoin client address. See what's happening.
The MyBitcoin address is 1B8Dgkq4UtwVofQHN9TCay5ENfEz3k7Kbt.
And this address is shown in the block explorer.
MyBitcoin should forward the bitcoins to my client.
And this address is shown in the block explorer.
MyBitcoin should forward the bitcoins to my client.
So it was a MyBitcoin address? I wonder if anyone else used a MyBitcoin address and if they got their coins too?
The generated transactions appear differently in clients. They show as 'Generated' and don't become usable for 120 blocks. Non-gui clients can't even see them or access them in any way using bitcoind until that 120 block period has passed. Possibly something in the way MyBitcoin is setup stopped them from picking up that you got coins?
Have you tried contacting them?
Hi doublec,
The MyBitcoin address is 1B8Dgkq4UtwVofQHN9TCay5ENfEz3k7Kbt.
And this address is shown in the block explorer.
MyBitcoin should forward the bitcoins to my client.
Neither that nor anything else has happend. The history shows nothing.
BTW: The bugs description surely must be written somewhere under that green paint...
When did you contribute? Did you stop at any time? For the first few days the server was running the connected method, not contributed due to bugs in the later as described here: http://pastecoin.com/download.php?file=70
I started 2010-12-10, ca. 10pm and I stopped 2010-12-11 ca. 10am. Should be a pooled mining test. To see, how it works.Is the address you listed appearing in the block as shown in block explorer?
Yes.The MyBitcoin address is 1B8Dgkq4UtwVofQHN9TCay5ENfEz3k7Kbt.
And this address is shown in the block explorer.
MyBitcoin should forward the bitcoins to my client.
Neither that nor anything else has happend. The history shows nothing.
BTW: The bugs description surely must be written somewhere under that green paint...
not that I'm missing my bitcents, but the pool-mined block 97017 is now (97333) 316 blocks away.
And yet I didn't receive any bitcents...
Neither on MyBitcoin, nor on my Bitcoin client.
What went wrong? My fault? The servers fault?
Anyone else has this problem?
And yet I didn't receive any bitcents...
Neither on MyBitcoin, nor on my Bitcoin client.
What went wrong? My fault? The servers fault?
Anyone else has this problem?
When did you contribute? Did you stop at any time? For the first few days the server was running the connected method, not contributed due to bugs in the later as described here: http://pastecoin.com/download.php?file=70
Is the address you listed appearing in the block as shown in block explorer?
Hi,
not that I'm missing my bitcents, but the pool-mined block 97017 is now (97333) 316 blocks away.
And yet I didn't receive any bitcents...
Neither on MyBitcoin, nor on my Bitcoin client.
What went wrong? My fault? The servers fault?
Anyone else has this problem?
not that I'm missing my bitcents, but the pool-mined block 97017 is now (97333) 316 blocks away.
And yet I didn't receive any bitcents...
Neither on MyBitcoin, nor on my Bitcoin client.
What went wrong? My fault? The servers fault?
Anyone else has this problem?
So if enough people switch to the new client, could that theoretically increase the capacity of the server due to fewer TCP connections?
I've updated to puddinpop's latest server code. There is also a new client. The new client displays the distribution method the server is using, can use multiple threads (no more needing to run multiple instances of the miner), and no longer dumps the 'best hash rate' to the console. There is also a new OpenCL remote miner:
http://www.bluishcoder.co.nz/bitcoin-pool
http://www.bluishcoder.co.nz/bitcoin-pool
One of those addresses with 0 payout is mine. I didn't realize I could run the client multiple times with the same receiving address, so I used a new address for about 10 minutes or so. Then I shut down the client and restarted it with my main address so that all future contributions would go to that one.
On an unrelated note, is anyone else having an issue where new receiving addresses are randomly generated while away from the computer? I'll come back after a day of work and find that the Bitcoin client has created 2-3 new addresses for me, with the client minimized and everything. At this point I've got about 10 addresses with no labels. I'm trying to determine if this is due to running Bitcoin and this pooled miner at the same time on the same machine or if something else is getting screwed up somewhere along the line. It's almost as if someone is coming along during the day, opening up Bitcoin, clicking the "New..." button, and minimizing it again.
On an unrelated note, is anyone else having an issue where new receiving addresses are randomly generated while away from the computer? I'll come back after a day of work and find that the Bitcoin client has created 2-3 new addresses for me, with the client minimized and everything. At this point I've got about 10 addresses with no labels. I'm trying to determine if this is due to running Bitcoin and this pooled miner at the same time on the same machine or if something else is getting screwed up somewhere along the line. It's almost as if someone is coming along during the day, opening up Bitcoin, clicking the "New..." button, and minimizing it again.
Quote
thanks! I've read about the "120 blocks lagging" somewhere but I didn't remember.
you're welcome.to correct myself, it's not that you will receive,
you actually already received those bitcents to that address, it's already yours,
they are not "mature" yet though, you can't spend generated coins for 120 blocks after generation.
that's why they don't show up on your balance.
in a client-GUI you would see something like this "Generated (0.09 matures in 75 more blocks)"
Hi BitLex,
Time takes it's toll on old men's brains.
I'll give it to the faucet anyway.
you will receive the 0.09btc to your bitcoin-address in about 79blocks (as i type this),
thanks! I've read about the "120 blocks lagging" somewhere but I didn't remember.Time takes it's toll on old men's brains.
noone can take it from you to give it to the faucet, you have todo it yourself.
This was meant in case of the bitcoins were lost.I'll give it to the faucet anyway.
Quote
I started somewhere within the mining and I stopped before the new block was created.
so you stopped before the block was found and you got your share anyway.this also answers
Quote
his machine or net access chrashes just before the next block is created. Will he lose his mined bitcoins?
no, he won't lose anything, he'll get his share, as long as he's swimming in a contributed-pool, and not in a connected-pool.you will receive the 0.09btc to your bitcoin-address in about 79blocks (as i type this),
noone can take it from you to give it to the faucet, you have todo it yourself.
Jump to: