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schmidt.kendra1

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Quote from: bitjet on February 13, 2011, 05:08:01 PM

I'm trying to get into this pool mining but I cant find an easy way to set one up. Im in win7, is there a GUI that makes this easier for people like me? This client seems easy to use, but theres no server. Other clients are a little too complex for me.

Bitjet,

I knew nothing about pool mining, until last night, and I am also running Windows 7 with an ATI 5770.

Following the instructions (see the section titled "How to Start") on https://deepbit.net/, I was up and running in about 30 minutes.

I had to download the OpenCL drivers from ATI's website, before I could use my GPU, and I used the GUIMiner to handle all the command line options for me. I found the GUIminer by following the link, on this post: http://forum.bitcoin.org/?topic=1334.0, under the heading "GUI."

I'm certainly no expert, but having been successful so recently, you're welcome to ask any specific questions you might have while setting it up.

Good luck!

P.S. By the way, I used the Geeks3D GPU Caps Viewer at http://www.geeks3d.com/20090414/gpu-caps-viewer-170-available-with-cuda-support/ to monitor the temperature of my GPU while I set it up. I found that adding "-s0.01" to the "Extra flags" field, gave me a little peace of mind, at a cost of about 10Mh/s. I may remove that, as it seems the GPUs fan is doing a good job of keeping up with the temperature. (Despite my signature, it seems I'm averaging about 120Mh/s... don't know why the signature shows less.)

bitjet

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I'm trying to get into this pool mining but I cant find an easy way to set one up. Im in win7, is there a GUI that makes this easier for people like me? This client seems easy to use, but theres no server. Other clients are a little too complex for me.

FreeMoney

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Strength in numbers

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Quote from: fabianhjr on December 27, 2010, 11:59:00 PM

Anyone knows what's wrong with 91.121.29.91? Had been offline for 3 days now. :/

I'd like to know too. Time is money here. There's no excuse for this.

No excuse needed. Feel free to give us a server to connect to yourself.

FairUser

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Quote from: stakhanov on January 03, 2011, 05:05:53 AM

Could anyone volunteer to run a new server?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/4-eh-slush-pool-slushpoolcom-overt-asicboost-world-first-mining-pool-1976

stakhanov

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Could anyone volunteer to run a new server?

cdnbcguy

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Quote from: fabianhjr on December 27, 2010, 11:59:00 PM

Anyone knows what's wrong with 91.121.29.91? Had been offline for 3 days now. :/

I'd like to know too. Time is money here. There's no excuse for this.

fabianhjr

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Do The Evolution

Anyone knows what's wrong with 91.121.29.91? Had been offline for 3 days now. :/

puddinpop

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Quote from: theymos on December 26, 2010, 09:11:44 PM

Quote from: puddinpop on December 26, 2010, 01:31:00 PM

The 0.01 fee is for entire transactions less than 0.01, correct?

No. It applies if any output is less than 0.01.

Bitcoin could choose coins intelligently to reduce the number of bitcoins thrown away, but it doesn't, so sub-cent amounts are nearly worthless currently.

Alright, so there really is no reason why the current client couldn't determine the best inputs so that <0.01 wouldn't happen unless there are no other better transactions available.

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Help needed for rpcminer

Questions about the RPC miners should go in the RPC miners thread.

Ricochet

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Honestly, given the current exchange rates, I could care less about the sub-cents issue. There isn't a USD coin small enough to represent the maximum possible loss you can get from using one generation method over the other at this point. It would take 4 instances of generating 0.00999999 BTC (and thus actually getting 0.00) to equal a penny that you should have gotten but didn't. The most I've ever seen one penny buy is 12 minutes at a parking meter in a small town. It's a non-issue.

If (and probably when) Bitcoins become worth more per unit of local currency, then perhaps that argument will be a bit more valid. Until that happens, people need to find better arguments to support their side of the issue. Nothing wrong with people using the method they happen to like better, or whichever server happens to be up at the moment, etc.

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Quote from: puddinpop on December 26, 2010, 01:31:00 PM

The 0.01 fee is for entire transactions less than 0.01, correct?

No. It applies if any output is less than 0.01.

Bitcoin could choose coins intelligently to reduce the number of bitcoins thrown away, but it doesn't, so sub-cent amounts are nearly worthless currently.

puddinpop

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Bitcoin as a protocol can handle sub cents perfectly fine. In fact, the generation of such blocks demonstrates that capability. The issue is with the GUI when selecting which transactions to include in new transactions and then ignoring the sub cents left over. The 0.01 fee is for entire transactions less than 0.01, correct? So you should be able to include as many sub 0.01 inputs as needed to get over the 0.01, or use a larger input transaction with sub cents, and get the correct sub cent change back.

Anyway, since the source of the pooled server is open, you can easily change the generation behavior if it doesn't suit you.

mestar

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Good point BitLex.

mestar

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Quote from: BitLex on December 26, 2010, 11:55:04 AM

and i wouldn't be as sure as you are about puddinpop's miner being the fastest possible on CPUs,
maybe it's your setup.

CPU mining became pretty worthless today, so this discussion is becoming irrelevant, but anyway:

Inter Core Duo, 2.66, and Core Quad 2.66, Win7-64, I get those speeds per core:

Bitcoin client 0.3.19: 1200 khash/sec
Puddinpop's remoteminer-cpu.exe: 1200 khash/sec
Garzik's minerd.exe, default 'c' algo: 1020 khash/sec

also:
minerd.exe, -a 4way: 670 khash/sec
minerd.exe, -a via: crashes
minedr.exe, -a cyrptopp: 750 khash/sec
minerd.exe, -a cryptopp_asm32: 1200 khash/sec, but all work is rejected by the server.

BitLex

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that's correct, but you're also losing sub-cents.

let's say you contribute and generate 0.05436279 bitcoins.
the GUI tells you "Generated 0.05btc.." and as soon as you send those 0.05btc to another address, you've lost 0.00436279 bitcoins.
that's even worse if you just contribute very little CPU power and only generate 0.00999999btc or less per block,
you'll see that you "Generated 0.00btc...", but you will not be able to spend/send them, without losing them.

i can't see how this is "better", can you?

mestar

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Quote from: BitLex on December 26, 2010, 11:55:04 AM

please explain in which way this is "better".

It is better because you see your mined share right away, and it is listed as "Generated" in the standard Bitcoin client.

BitLex

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Quote from: mestar on December 26, 2010, 11:13:11 AM

The first server has a better way of paying out, your address gets listed in the actual block that was generated.

please explain in which way this is "better".

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Slash will first take it all, then give 10% to the one who found the block

untrue,
he has got "an idea" about it, he didn't even ask what his users think about it and i guess i'm not the only one who doesn't like that idea.

and i wouldn't be as sure as you are about puddinpop's miner being the fastest possible on CPUs,
maybe it's your setup.

mestar

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So, for now we have two incompatible protocols and two different sets of clients for pooled mining.

Also, we have only two servers, one for each protocol. The first one is "open sourced pooling server", clients listed at the first page of this thread. The address of the server is 91.121.29.91, and sometimes the server is down.

example command lines:
remoteminer-cuda.exe -server=91.121.29.91 -address=19nYw...
remoteminer-cpu.exe -server=91.121.29.91 -address=19nYw...

Other is "shash's" server that uses RPC protocol. The server address is http://mining.bitcoin.cz:8332, and also you have to register trough his web page.

example command lines:
minerd -t 4 --url http://mining.bitcoin.cz:8332 --userpass username.workername:passwd
poclbm.exe -u username.workername --pass=passwd -o mining.bitcoin.cz -p 8332 -d 0

The first server has a better way of paying out, your address gets listed in the actual block that was generated. Slash will first take it all, then give 10% to the one who found the block, then wait for the block to mature then send it.

The other issue is that of performance on Core Duo and Quad processors, the client for the first server has 20% better performance, and there is no way to get that performance on Intel cpu for Shash's server.

LZ

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P2P Cryptocurrency

Yes, but it seems that 91.121.29.91 is down. So miners may join some other
pool. Your clients successfully connect to the server http://mining.bitcoin.cz/
through RPC and compute hashes using a valid worker's login and password.

Quote from: slush on December 25, 2010, 09:07:19 AM

If it really works with pool, I'll add them to homepage.

puddinpop

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Quote from: LZ on December 25, 2010, 08:01:31 AM

Now we should use puddinpop's RPC Miners.

No. Those clients are only for those miners using the RPC method. This thread is about the open source pooled mining, which uses different miners. People should continue using whatever miners they've been using for this pool.

LZ

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P2P Cryptocurrency

Now we ~~should~~ can use new puddinpop's RPC Miners.

Register workers at http://mining.bitcoin.cz/ and use -url, -user and -password instead of -server and -address.

It will be something like...

Code:

@echo off
cls
:reconnect
rpcminer-cuda -gpu -url=http://mining.bitcoin.cz:8332 -user=worker_login -password=worker_password
goto reconnect

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