Topic: Julian Assange Announces Plan to Leave Ecuadorian Embassy 'Soon' (Read 3234 times)

Yea, this is not what happened. He is gay and wanted to undergo the sex change. See the below quote from kluge

Manning threatened to sue the Army for not paying for hormone therapy after declaring he wanted to be a woman.

Bradley Manning was forced to undergo sex-change surgery against his will once he was returned to the US. Who knows what will happen to Snowden once he is captured by the United States? Forcible castration? We have to remember that the FBI / CIA is the world leader in inventing more and more innovative methods of torture and humiliation.

There will be no due process. There will be military detention. There will be solitary confinement. There may be torture. The treatment he will receive in the US, taking into consideration his already poor conditions of health, will be worse than being shot on the spot. A fair trial is exactly what he deserves. He desires assurance of no extradition because he knows he will not be granted one.

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Why not advertise the fact, it's better to let the world know his intentions so he isn't disappeared on some secret dark site for "interrogation" no?  People have their differences of opinion with these whistle blowers and while the discussion is up in the air I think it's a good time to test the waters.  There has been many scandals sense the leaks from Assange.  He made his info known and people have had time to digest it so why live in hiding forever, or sneak out like he's trying to hide something?

Once in custody, he likely would have been handed over to the US and disappeared in a dark hole somewhere for the rest of his life, after a secret trial with secret laws and no recourse.

The problem with this is the timing of the accusations. They were made very shortly after wikileaks released documents and videos relating to the Iraq war that are of public interest but made the US look very bad. The charges are more likely then not politically motivated and not true.

I neither consider him a hero or a villain, but I do feel he should have gone to Sweden and answered to the charges. Ironically, if he had been found guilty, figuring Sweden's relative leniency and good prison conditions, he would probably be out now and in better health.

Julian Assange should return to Sweden to face inquiries about sexual assault.

Interpol still has a Red Notice allert on Julian Assange - arrest on sight and deliver to Swedish authorities.

Julian Assange can fabricate whatever story he likes, but London authorities still wait to arrest him. He must answer questions in Sweden, regardless of whatever charges or extradition attempts remain from the USA.

Man up, Assange! Go to Sweden and talk to the authorities there.

It's not a matter of being unnoticed. Would the British military try to force down a diplomatic helicopter? Remember the outrage when Austrian authorities grounded a Bolivian diplomatic aircraft on rumors that Snowden was on board?? Maybe they would, but there's a good chance they wouldn't, and that may be his best bet to get away.

As for range on a fuel tank... typical helicopters can get up to about 500 nautical mile range, so that's not an issue.

Flying over London in a helicopter, if it was legal, isn't a way to go unnoticed.

And when the helicopter lands?  Can't think of too many places where they wouldn't be able to arrest him as soon as he gets out of the helicopter.  Honestly don't know if it's possible to make it to international waters on a normal fuel tank.  Anyone care to do some research?

All he has to do is leave the embassy on a diplomatic helicopter.

I wouldn't be surprised if that's actually the case, I think this announcement is too convenient for the UK, he's not a dumbass

His admitting leaving the Ecuadorean Embassy soon could be a ruse and he already has left the embassy. He probably has had a facial make-over looking like an embassy Embassy staffer.

Good question itsAj if I could get a copy of the embassy's design and building plans I could give you an answer of how that would work in practice, also I would learn how likely it could be executed in reality. But I don't think you can access that info unless you go to the London building planners and ask them for a copy of the drafts yourself in person. (awkward conversation unless you bluff that your a reporter and want to describe his living conditions and the embassy's design for the media before being told its classified to the public but if that works (Just say your the dailymail they do enough of those types of articles ^_^*)

But since you mentioned logistics apparently their is a loading bay for Harrods right outside the embassy, he could load himself onto in a box then someone could drive him out as cargo so I'm sure there are a lot of ways to sneak out of the embassy just as long as he can get past those cops.

The magazine quotes the 42-year-old as saying: “I couldn’t sleep because of the Harrods loading bay and the cops always doing shift changes outside. And the quietest room is the women’s bathroom, the only room that’s easy to sleep in. So I thought I’d try and somehow get hold of it and renovate it. Eventually, somewhat reluctantly, the staff relented. They ripped out the toilet. They’ve been very generous.”

He is sheltering in the embassy building behind Harrods from attempts to extradite him to Sweden to face allegations of sexual offences.
http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/who-would-live-in-an-embassy-like-this-julian-assange-invites-the-cameras-into-ecuadors-west-london-premises-8744428.html

I am not 100% sure as to how the embassy is setup but if it would be possible for him to get into a car with heavily tinted windows without anyone seeing that he got into the car then he should be able to stay in the car as long as he needs to and would be safer in a diplomatic convoy then on his own in a network of tunnels. It would be much easier to monitor a tunnel system then it would the garage of a foreign embassy.

Snowden is still in Russia, so clearly he feels that they're less of a threat than the US.  It's not like these people are being paranoid, they have justifiable concerns for their well-being against a government with a clear agenda at hand.  These people are reporting things the world needs to know about and that otherwise wouldn't have seen the light of day.  I would have thought a forum based on cryptography of all things would be more supportive with regards to the importance of how such mass surveillance affects us all.

Well I was thinking if he could get away in an Ecuadorian Convoy waiting outside the building then use the tunnel systems to get into a diplomatic limo it would work, the way they would determine the best way to approach it is by monitoring the monitors and their patterns when vehicles come and go to the embassy, simply put if they are monitoring the movements of the embassy but not what is occurring out of it then it makes more sense to do a transfer outside even if near the embassy.

That said if he wants to escape or leave the embassy some time soon he will have to take the risk even if its with a diplomatic convoy of getting arrested, either that or surrender and make a plea deal.
Its a tricky situation though for him since he could just stay in the embassy but how does he get out of it.

I would doubt that he would try to escape via tunnel systems as this would not allow him to use the cover of the ecuador government. If he were to be captured while traveling with an official convoy then the ecuador government could say that his arrest would be the same as the government arresting one of their diplomats while he would be more or less on his own if he tried to escape via tunnel systems.