Julian Assange Announces Plan to Leave Ecuadorian Embassy 'Soon' - page 2.

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Quote from: itsAj on August 29, 2014, 10:27:27 PM

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Quote from: countryfree on August 18, 2014, 07:03:40 PM

I don't understand why he announces he's about to move. He should have left without a fuss, now there will be people looking for him.

I am also interested why they would make a press announcement
Perhaps he made a plea deal but it is worth watching how this turns out.

Also be it as it may, he may be better off in Russia if he can sneak his way over there.

I would doubt that he made a plea deal. One possibility is that he he announced his pending departure to see how cars leaving the embassy and and planes leaving the country are looked at by the local government. Ecuador is one of the countries that Snowden wanted to exile to but was unable to make it, so it may be a distraction for him to be able to leave.

That may actually be correct, if his group is monitoring the traffic and movements of people who enter and leave the embassy and what they do when they monitor them, then it makes sense to use a good sample size and then determine which method is the most efficient one to escape.

That or Assange builds a tunnel sneaks into the sewage system comes out outside the embassy and then takes a ride safely away from there with no one the wiser.
Sounds like The Great Escape ^_^.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Escape_%28film%29

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on August 25, 2014, 03:18:36 AM

Quote from: countryfree on August 18, 2014, 07:03:40 PM

I don't understand why he announces he's about to move. He should have left without a fuss, now there will be people looking for him.

I am also interested why they would make a press announcement
Perhaps he made a plea deal but it is worth watching how this turns out.

Also be it as it may, he may be better off in Russia if he can sneak his way over there.

I would doubt that he made a plea deal. One possibility is that he he announced his pending departure to see how cars leaving the embassy and and planes leaving the country are looked at by the local government. Ecuador is one of the countries that Snowden wanted to exile to but was unable to make it, so it may be a distraction for him to be able to leave.

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To my knowledge Julian Assange is still in the embassy
I wonder if that declaration was to throw people off or something but at the least hes making the UK foot the bill for keeping watch on him.
Assange stakeout has cost nearly $12 million

http://rt.com/news/178276-assange-police-cost-embassy/
Assange has been detained without charge for 1,337 days – and 777 of those days have been spent in the Ecuadorian embassy in London, according to the latest WikiLeaks statement.

Meanwhile, the price tag for guarding Assange hit over seven million British pounds (US$11.8 million) early on Wednesday, according to govwaste.co.uk counter.

Officers have been staking out the embassy around the clock since June 2012, with the cost to the London taxpayers surpassing $15,000 per day.

It was l337 a while ago and 777 in custody
That was a weird for the way the numbers came out.

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Quote from: shogdite on August 26, 2014, 06:28:36 AM

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Quote from: sana8410 on August 21, 2014, 12:25:16 PM

Whatever health issues he has ,he is responsible for. He has allegedly leaked important classified information. If he is extradited back to the USA he will be given due process. He has chosen not to have his date in court. Therefore, he has to accept the consequences of his actions which has resulted in his poor health. The USA is not barbaric he would not be shot on the spot. Ask the terrorists that have been incarcerated . No sympathy just a fair trial is all he deserves.

You don't pay much attention to what's really going on around the world do you? The reason the UK police supposedly wanted him was because of rape allegations in Sweden, same reason the Swedish police want him and depending on who you listen to it's either a serious crime that women are out to get him for or the Americans made it up to try and get him held in Sweden so they could get more time to extradite him.

Also, the USA not barbaric? You still have the fucking death penalty and even on this board there are still people who seem to think that's okay.

Just adding my 2 mBTC ... didn't those women withdraw their allegations? I seem to recall that it was a ridiculous case of "enquiring about conditional consent" regarding condom usage, and a likely honey-pot. If true, it was surely a scummy thing for Assange to do, it reminds me of a case Judge Judy once threw out where a hooker "found out that she had been raped" after a client's check bounced.

And the Swedish authorities are really not doing their country any favours by making a big show of gender equality and hyping-up a total non-story. How about catching some real rapists so that the Scandinavian crime novelists wouldn't have so many gory facts to base their plots on?

One of the ladies in question just so happened to work for a certain CIA backed anti-Castro organization. To me it's pretty obvious that he was setup with a honeypot, a textbook CIA character assasination.

I would not at all be surprised. The timing of the accusations are suspicious at best. This is also not the kind of accusations that people are generally hunted for across the world.

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Quote from: blablahblah on August 24, 2014, 06:50:54 AM

Quote from: Lethn on August 23, 2014, 11:09:49 PM

Quote from: sana8410 on August 21, 2014, 12:25:16 PM

Whatever health issues he has ,he is responsible for. He has allegedly leaked important classified information. If he is extradited back to the USA he will be given due process. He has chosen not to have his date in court. Therefore, he has to accept the consequences of his actions which has resulted in his poor health. The USA is not barbaric he would not be shot on the spot. Ask the terrorists that have been incarcerated . No sympathy just a fair trial is all he deserves.

You don't pay much attention to what's really going on around the world do you? The reason the UK police supposedly wanted him was because of rape allegations in Sweden, same reason the Swedish police want him and depending on who you listen to it's either a serious crime that women are out to get him for or the Americans made it up to try and get him held in Sweden so they could get more time to extradite him.

Also, the USA not barbaric? You still have the fucking death penalty and even on this board there are still people who seem to think that's okay.

Just adding my 2 mBTC ... didn't those women withdraw their allegations? I seem to recall that it was a ridiculous case of "enquiring about conditional consent" regarding condom usage, and a likely honey-pot. If true, it was surely a scummy thing for Assange to do, it reminds me of a case Judge Judy once threw out where a hooker "found out that she had been raped" after a client's check bounced.

And the Swedish authorities are really not doing their country any favours by making a big show of gender equality and hyping-up a total non-story. How about catching some real rapists so that the Scandinavian crime novelists wouldn't have so many gory facts to base their plots on?

One of the ladies in question just so happened to work for a certain CIA backed anti-Castro organization. To me it's pretty obvious that he was setup with a honeypot, a textbook CIA character assasination.

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Quote from: Lethn on August 23, 2014, 11:09:49 PM

Quote from: sana8410 on August 21, 2014, 12:25:16 PM

Whatever health issues he has ,he is responsible for. He has allegedly leaked important classified information. If he is extradited back to the USA he will be given due process. He has chosen not to have his date in court. Therefore, he has to accept the consequences of his actions which has resulted in his poor health. The USA is not barbaric he would not be shot on the spot. Ask the terrorists that have been incarcerated . No sympathy just a fair trial is all he deserves.

You don't pay much attention to what's really going on around the world do you? The reason the UK police supposedly wanted him was because of rape allegations in Sweden, same reason the Swedish police want him and depending on who you listen to it's either a serious crime that women are out to get him for or the Americans made it up to try and get him held in Sweden so they could get more time to extradite him.

Also, the USA not barbaric? You still have the fucking death penalty and even on this board there are still people who seem to think that's okay.

You don't get out much do you. Let's try a country like Singapore. Burma. Belize. China. Russia. Mexico.

USA looks like a Sandals vacation resort compared to most anywhere else in the world.

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Quote from: Lethn on August 23, 2014, 11:09:49 PM

Quote from: sana8410 on August 21, 2014, 12:25:16 PM

Whatever health issues he has ,he is responsible for. He has allegedly leaked important classified information. If he is extradited back to the USA he will be given due process. He has chosen not to have his date in court. Therefore, he has to accept the consequences of his actions which has resulted in his poor health. The USA is not barbaric he would not be shot on the spot. Ask the terrorists that have been incarcerated . No sympathy just a fair trial is all he deserves.

You don't pay much attention to what's really going on around the world do you? The reason the UK police supposedly wanted him was because of rape allegations in Sweden, same reason the Swedish police want him and depending on who you listen to it's either a serious crime that women are out to get him for or the Americans made it up to try and get him held in Sweden so they could get more time to extradite him.

Also, the USA not barbaric? You still have the fucking death penalty and even on this board there are still people who seem to think that's okay.

These allegations were apparently not very credible. I think it is quite the coincidence that he had this allegations against him right as he was able to leak massive amounts of intelligence information that was of interest to the world but made the US look bad.

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Quote from: countryfree on August 18, 2014, 07:03:40 PM

I don't understand why he announces he's about to move. He should have left without a fuss, now there will be people looking for him.

I am also interested why they would make a press announcement
Perhaps he made a plea deal but it is worth watching how this turns out.

Also be it as it may, he may be better off in Russia if he can sneak his way over there.

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Quote from: blablahblah on August 24, 2014, 06:50:54 AM

Quote from: Lethn on August 23, 2014, 11:09:49 PM

Quote from: sana8410 on August 21, 2014, 12:25:16 PM

Whatever health issues he has ,he is responsible for. He has allegedly leaked important classified information. If he is extradited back to the USA he will be given due process. He has chosen not to have his date in court. Therefore, he has to accept the consequences of his actions which has resulted in his poor health. The USA is not barbaric he would not be shot on the spot. Ask the terrorists that have been incarcerated . No sympathy just a fair trial is all he deserves.

You don't pay much attention to what's really going on around the world do you? The reason the UK police supposedly wanted him was because of rape allegations in Sweden, same reason the Swedish police want him and depending on who you listen to it's either a serious crime that women are out to get him for or the Americans made it up to try and get him held in Sweden so they could get more time to extradite him.

Also, the USA not barbaric? You still have the fucking death penalty and even on this board there are still people who seem to think that's okay.

Just adding my 2 mBTC ... didn't those women withdraw their allegations? I seem to recall that it was a ridiculous case of "enquiring about conditional consent" regarding condom usage, and a likely honey-pot. If true, it was surely a scummy thing for Assange to do, it reminds me of a case Judge Judy once threw out where a hooker "found out that she had been raped" after a client's check bounced.

And the Swedish authorities are really not doing their country any favours by making a big show of gender equality and hyping-up a total non-story. How about catching some real rapists so that the Scandinavian crime novelists wouldn't have so many gory facts to base their plots on?

I am not sure about the fact that the women withdrew their allegations, but I do remember that when the allegations were made that they were generally not credible. IIRC most people throughout the world thought the charges were politically based because the person they were against had exposed what the US was doing to civilians in Iraq.

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Quote from: Lethn on August 23, 2014, 11:09:49 PM

Quote from: sana8410 on August 21, 2014, 12:25:16 PM

Whatever health issues he has ,he is responsible for. He has allegedly leaked important classified information. If he is extradited back to the USA he will be given due process. He has chosen not to have his date in court. Therefore, he has to accept the consequences of his actions which has resulted in his poor health. The USA is not barbaric he would not be shot on the spot. Ask the terrorists that have been incarcerated . No sympathy just a fair trial is all he deserves.

You don't pay much attention to what's really going on around the world do you? The reason the UK police supposedly wanted him was because of rape allegations in Sweden, same reason the Swedish police want him and depending on who you listen to it's either a serious crime that women are out to get him for or the Americans made it up to try and get him held in Sweden so they could get more time to extradite him.

Also, the USA not barbaric? You still have the fucking death penalty and even on this board there are still people who seem to think that's okay.

Just adding my 2 mBTC ... didn't those women withdraw their allegations? I seem to recall that it was a ridiculous case of "enquiring about conditional consent" regarding condom usage, and a likely honey-pot. If true, it was surely a scummy thing for Assange to do, it reminds me of a case Judge Judy once threw out where a hooker "found out that she had been raped" after a client's check bounced.

And the Swedish authorities are really not doing their country any favours by making a big show of gender equality and hyping-up a total non-story. How about catching some real rapists so that the Scandinavian crime novelists wouldn't have so many gory facts to base their plots on?

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Quote from: sana8410 on August 21, 2014, 12:25:16 PM

Whatever health issues he has ,he is responsible for. He has allegedly leaked important classified information. If he is extradited back to the USA he will be given due process. He has chosen not to have his date in court. Therefore, he has to accept the consequences of his actions which has resulted in his poor health. The USA is not barbaric he would not be shot on the spot. Ask the terrorists that have been incarcerated . No sympathy just a fair trial is all he deserves.

You don't pay much attention to what's really going on around the world do you? The reason the UK police supposedly wanted him was because of rape allegations in Sweden, same reason the Swedish police want him and depending on who you listen to it's either a serious crime that women are out to get him for or the Americans made it up to try and get him held in Sweden so they could get more time to extradite him.

Also, the USA not barbaric? You still have the fucking death penalty and even on this board there are still people who seem to think that's okay.

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there are many ways to take care of vitamin d deficiency, aren't there? quite a weird claim. can't they also send an ecuadorian doctor to him for a visit?

Not really that weird after being stuck in a building for two years. You want to produce the vitamin D naturally.

It also states he may have heart and lung problems. It could just be a reason for him to move locations as well.

Can't be too healthy being stuck inside for 2 years, not sure what his plan is but I'm fairly sure as soon as he steps outside he'll be arrested.

Always imagined he'd try and do a runner...

I am sure that he is able to get some level of exercise in the Embassy, he can likely at the very least walk around the building, and I wouldn't be entirely surprised if it doesn't have some kind of exercising facility. I would not at all be surprised if he is not being negatively affected by the lack of being able to go outside at all.

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A life of self-imposed imprisonment in the Ecuadorian Embassy in London versus the unknowns of legal battles in Sweden or the US - While an unenviable choice, I can see why Assange has decided to fly the coop. But why advertise the fact? It will only put his adversaries on hyper-alert.

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Whatever health issues he has ,he is responsible for. He has allegedly leaked important classified information. If he is extradited back to the USA he will be given due process. He has chosen not to have his date in court. Therefore, he has to accept the consequences of his actions which has resulted in his poor health. The USA is not barbaric he would not be shot on the spot. Ask the terrorists that have been incarcerated . No sympathy just a fair trial is all he deserves.

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Wherever he goes now, he will cause more taxpayer money to keep him confined. What is the point of even leaving the embassy? He was there for a reason, I think they had him there for government purposes.

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I didn't even know they spent that much money keeping watch on him but that fact that they have clearly means that they're wanting him for reasons that have nothing to do with the rape allegations, why? They never spend that much time and energy catching actual rapists and murderers in this country, in fact they give them less jailtime than filesharers.

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Quote from: CoinsForTech on August 20, 2014, 09:38:40 PM

I'll be very interested to see how this pans out. The UK has not spent £6,000,000 in guarding the embassy to simply let him walk away. Source. Tax payer money well spent for the brits.

I just hope he gets the trial he deserves but honestly I am not confident.

Exactly, the UK gov isn't going to spend that much money and then let him walk free to the nearest hospital (I'd imagine the US gov has also got some feds nearby).

Soon as he steps outside he'll be arrested, wondering why he couldn't get treatment inside the embassy.

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Quote from: DavidHume on August 20, 2014, 11:46:25 PM

I doubt he has much choice in regard to which country he can go.

Beside Russia, China and Iran, which country will risk pissing off US and take him in as refugee?

As soon as he steps foot outside that embassy he is gone. It is guarded 24 hours. I very much doubt he'll even get the opportunity to go elsewhere.

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I doubt he has much choice in regard to which country he can go.

Beside Russia, China and Iran, which country will risk pissing off US and take him in as refugee?

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I'll be very interested to see how this pans out. The UK has not spent £6,000,000 in guarding the embassy to simply let him walk away. Source. Tax payer money well spent for the brits.

I just hope he gets the trial he deserves but honestly I am not confident.

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