Topic: Julian Cain - redemption, sail off to the sunset or legal issues? (Read 2366 times)
December 05, 2016, 06:04:14 PM
What's funny is that this Shelby guy uses most of his time to trash xvc and not coding his great scaling shitcoin. Like he's trying get some publicity for him from that asshole Ashley J. Cain.
December 05, 2016, 04:32:02 PM
Go for Julian Cain shills, go and get him.
Shelby, most intelligent human of the planet with +190 IQ can fall in this trap for babies.
Do you think some genious individual like JC would make that kind of mistake?
You underestimate him a lot Shelby...
I'll love to see your face when someone else gets the merits and the $$$ of your bitcoin killer. Watch out your computers kid... You're not as smart as you think.
Shelby, most intelligent human of the planet with +190 IQ can fall in this trap for babies.
Do you think some genious individual like JC would make that kind of mistake?
You underestimate him a lot Shelby...I'll love to see your face when someone else gets the merits and the $$$ of your bitcoin killer. Watch out your computers kid... You're not as smart as you think.
December 05, 2016, 04:28:30 PM
Now the bottom will fall out.
The network just received an alert broadcast "Obsolete Version" for all wallets.
Expect it to be frozen any minute now.
The network just received an alert broadcast "Obsolete Version" for all wallets.
Expect it to be frozen any minute now.
Pinned Tweet
xCore @xCoreDev 2h2 hours ago
#Vcash $XVC Current GUI users should now receive the last alert from john_connor (Obsolete Version) until the next release update (0.5.1).
so is this a planned message or not. Why would the market crash because of this?
WIP
It was badly communicated, like mostly
https://twitter.com/xCoreDev
Ah okay I see.
December 05, 2016, 04:04:28 PM
Now the bottom will fall out.
The network just received an alert broadcast "Obsolete Version" for all wallets.
Expect it to be frozen any minute now.
The network just received an alert broadcast "Obsolete Version" for all wallets.
Expect it to be frozen any minute now.
Pinned Tweet
xCore @xCoreDev 2h2 hours ago
#Vcash $XVC Current GUI users should now receive the last alert from john_connor (Obsolete Version) until the next release update (0.5.1).
so is this a planned message or not. Why would the market crash because of this?
WIP
It was badly communicated, like mostly
https://twitter.com/xCoreDev
December 05, 2016, 03:49:05 PM
Now the bottom will fall out.
The network just received an alert broadcast "Obsolete Version" for all wallets.
Expect it to be frozen any minute now.
The network just received an alert broadcast "Obsolete Version" for all wallets.
Expect it to be frozen any minute now.
Pinned Tweet
xCore @xCoreDev 2h2 hours ago
#Vcash $XVC Current GUI users should now receive the last alert from john_connor (Obsolete Version) until the next release update (0.5.1).
so is this a planned message or not. Why would the market crash because of this?
December 05, 2016, 02:28:41 PM
(as evident by the half-ass shit Zerotime and anonymity he produced). You shills can go on and on about "break it if you can", but it doesn't change the fact that we are collection of experts and we know what the fuck we are talking about.
How do you expect the community to believe you without proof? It's just his words vs yours. Nothing more. Nothing less.
So let me get this right. You are a collection of tough shit experts and you can't explain why shit doesn't work. Way to go.
How can one explain how something which isn't properly specified in a white paper is going to fail precisely? Whose job is it to document properly and write a white paper properly? Mine or his?
I have explained why ZeroTime won't scale. The anonymity bullshit he came up with was really a hoot.
As for who is the expert here, a little bit of history might give you a fucking clue:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CoinJoin
Re: CoinJoin: Bitcoin privacy for the real world
First, an adversary could make a 1 Satoshi input and DOS on the (3) step. You ban that address but adversary has billions more at neglible cost.
I suppose you could set a minimum input amount to avoid this. But still no problem for the adversary, he passes his BTC through a mixer can comes to hit you again and again.
I am sorry to bring you bad news Gregory but with a non-atomic operation you can always be DOS-attacked. Zerocoin may be the solution?
Transaction fees and confirmation times should slow down the attacker.
As for slowing down, the adversary can have many parallel addresses in play so I don't think so.
Transaction fees might work if they are significant enough. I haven't studied how much the tx fees are in Bitcoin much. I think I read that certain txs can be 0 for some cases?
If the adversary is mixing through CoinJoin transactions (hehe, uses what he also DOS-attacks against itself), then the blockchain tx fee is going to be shared between all parties of the CoinJoin transaction, so could it be insignificant?
Edit: I've just realized the adversary can eliminate the transaction fees too, by spending those banned amounts as he normally would (e.g. day trading), thus he doesn't incur any extra cost.
Edit#2: unless all decentralized CoinJoins share their ban lists (which is quite impractical to achieve as it is the antithesis of decentralization), adversary can just round-robin through them.
So I've won the argument. Checkmate.
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Two orthogonal issues.First, an adversary could make a 1 Satoshi input and DOS on the (3) step. You ban that address but adversary has billions more at neglible cost.
I suppose you could set a minimum input amount to avoid this. But still no problem for the adversary, he passes his BTC through a mixer can comes to hit you again and again.
I am sorry to bring you bad news Gregory but with a non-atomic operation you can always be DOS-attacked. Zerocoin may be the solution?
Transaction fees and confirmation times should slow down the attacker.
As for slowing down, the adversary can have many parallel addresses in play so I don't think so.
Transaction fees might work if they are significant enough. I haven't studied how much the tx fees are in Bitcoin much. I think I read that certain txs can be 0 for some cases?
If the adversary is mixing through CoinJoin transactions (hehe, uses what he also DOS-attacks against itself), then the blockchain tx fee is going to be shared between all parties of the CoinJoin transaction, so could it be insignificant?
Edit: I've just realized the adversary can eliminate the transaction fees too, by spending those banned amounts as he normally would (e.g. day trading), thus he doesn't incur any extra cost.
Edit#2: unless all decentralized CoinJoins share their ban lists (which is quite impractical to achieve as it is the antithesis of decentralization), adversary can just round-robin through them.
So I've won the argument. Checkmate.
Please do back up the truck shills and load your boat with Vcrash tokens. Prepare for your checkmate.
I have nothing more to say on this matter ever again. You'll receive the checkmate indirectly from something I will publish.
0 lines of code
You Vcrash shills are so into accuracy:
https://github.com/shelby3
https://githubcontributions.io/user/shelby3/events/1
And that doesn't include my private repositories which you can't see yet Julian.
December 05, 2016, 02:20:56 PM
Now the bottom will fall out.
The network just received an alert broadcast "Obsolete Version" for all wallets.
Expect it to be frozen any minute now.
The network just received an alert broadcast "Obsolete Version" for all wallets.
Expect it to be frozen any minute now.
December 05, 2016, 12:52:00 PM
The anonymous gang around smooth ... if their real motives surface
I don't believe that. Smooth has helped many people on this forum and he even defended JC:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17086298
What smooth didn't like was that JC was making claims of being a supreme expert and that all his code was original and yet he was actually using code from Bitcoin and his algorithms and whitepapers were lacking. (I am not defending iCEBREAKER who tends to be too political and hyper-critical of any coin he is not invested in)
JC is apparently a reasonably talented P2P (Bittorrent) dev (as I had long since publicly speculated that he was) and perhaps could be a great team member on a coin if his attitude improved (didn't he do good work in the past in Bittorrent group development?), but he is not capable of creating any significant breakthroughs for our ecosystem by himself (as evident by the half-ass shit Zerotime and anonymity he produced). You shills can go on and on about "break it if you can", but it doesn't change the fact that we are collection of experts and we know what the fuck we are talking about. And you don't! So STFU or go on babbling your ignorance, your choice.
JC mislead speculators. Period. And for that he is receiving some animosity.
If he wants to come back, be non-anonymous subject to public scrutiny and improve his ethics (and cut out the drugs!), then maybe the community will give him another chance. But he needs to build a team of devs. One man shows are impossible. This stuff is way too complex and too much work for a one man development team.
I am not saying that he never had an original design idea. Apparently he made many tweaks which resulted in some better performance and compression characteristics. But those aren't apparently game changers. I know you Vcash supporters think they are, but I have a surprise coming for you.
Smooth et al stopped policing the altcoin discussion forums. They let JC destroy himself. You n00b speculators are so easily fooled, because you don't think clearly. You believe any technobabble that is thrown your direction. Or maybe you don't care, as long as you can fool some other n00bs. And this always backfires in the end. Only correct effort and honesty workout in the long-run. Ethics matter a lot for success. Those who cut corners end up failing. So don't blame your failure on smooth.
You are not the one indicated to give vital advice. 4 years, 0 lines of code, 100.000 lines of "superior" talking. Get into your business Shelby, everything is ok here.
Good day.
December 05, 2016, 12:19:54 PM
(as evident by the half-ass shit Zerotime and anonymity he produced). You shills can go on and on about "break it if you can", but it doesn't change the fact that we are collection of experts and we know what the fuck we are talking about.
How do you expect the community to believe you without proof? It's just his words vs yours. Nothing more. Nothing less.
So let me get this right. You are a collection of tough shit experts and you can't explain why shit doesn't work. Way to go.
LOL, they're trying to get a GUI around their beloved coin for years already, what do you expect?
December 05, 2016, 12:13:29 PM
(as evident by the half-ass shit Zerotime and anonymity he produced). You shills can go on and on about "break it if you can", but it doesn't change the fact that we are collection of experts and we know what the fuck we are talking about.
How do you expect the community to believe you without proof? It's just his words vs yours. Nothing more. Nothing less.
So let me get this right. You are a collection of tough shit experts and you can't explain why shit doesn't work. Way to go.
They can offer explanation but most are unable to verify it because it requires a certain type of mind + a lot of training.
Often highly trained people will say that this or that defies this theorem or that theorem. If their reputation is on the line and they are well known then mostly if a few of these kind of individuals say the same thing then you can be sure there is some fire to be found with the smoke. However, yes you and a huge proportion of people will just have to take their word for it. Or wait until it is proven in real world usage. By that time though the opportunity will have passed.
December 05, 2016, 12:10:29 PM
This post alone is enough for legal proceedings.
Thanks for your written confession 🐩
Make sure to add this too while you're at it, Stockholm-Syndrome suffering, simple-minded Homo habilis!
December 05, 2016, 11:59:49 AM
This post alone is enough for legal proceedings.
Thanks for your written confession 🐩
Thanks for your written confession 🐩
You are not going to get any respect from the altcoin community for defending a developer who takes money and refuses to reveal his identity.
Threatening legal proceedings against someone who is rooting out the identity of someone who was taking funds from the community is really despicable.
We have moved on from being a place for illegal and/or illicit activities and we expect a higher ethics. (those who want to do that illicit crap shouldn't expect the investors who want transparency and professionalism to respect them)
On Steem(it), everything was public.
Enough of this backwater shit in crypto. Be professional or get out.
You are turning software development into the Italian Mafia. If we try to know who the hell the developer is who abandoned the community after making the community entirely reliant on him for development (which btw appears to be a violation of SEC law), then you threaten legal action for digging up what is publicly available on the Internet.
P.S. I read something about a Brazilian connection? I have seen some video recently about crazy shit going on in Brazil and Westerners that get sucked into the party drug life there. I bet there are mafias and all kinds of crazy shit in the backstory that we don't know... speculators' BTC probably up the nose...
December 05, 2016, 11:57:56 AM
(as evident by the half-ass shit Zerotime and anonymity he produced). You shills can go on and on about "break it if you can", but it doesn't change the fact that we are collection of experts and we know what the fuck we are talking about.
How do you expect the community to believe you without proof? It's just his words vs yours. Nothing more. Nothing less.
So let me get this right. You are a collection of tough shit experts and you can't explain why shit doesn't work. Way to go.
December 05, 2016, 11:54:35 AM
Didn't expect that much objectivity from Cryptohunter, well said.
It could very well go the other way around, now that he's doxed.
The anonymous gang around smooth, icebreaker, badass, ocminer, your mother, could face allegations for slander and wirefraud, if their real motives surface. Its been going on for so long and XVC is not the only battlefield they were working. There is plenty of evidence all over the place. The FBI could be very interested, as its a multi million Dollar fraud going on for years, with a handful of perpetrators profiting. JC was an easy victim for the vultures, like many other dev teams that were destroyed.
The coin is doing fine, the market hasn't collapsed, still buyers, still volume.
This story is far from over.
It could very well go the other way around, now that he's doxed.
The anonymous gang around smooth, icebreaker, badass, ocminer, your mother, could face allegations for slander and wirefraud, if their real motives surface. Its been going on for so long and XVC is not the only battlefield they were working. There is plenty of evidence all over the place. The FBI could be very interested, as its a multi million Dollar fraud going on for years, with a handful of perpetrators profiting. JC was an easy victim for the vultures, like many other dev teams that were destroyed.
The coin is doing fine, the market hasn't collapsed, still buyers, still volume.
This story is far from over.
"Slander - the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation."
What in the name of fuck are you talking about, son ?
Everything that i have used for revealing the charlatan was taken from social networks, mugshots.com and various other documents that are publicly available on the internet. How about we focus on the scumbag john julian connor cain ashley and his intentions and not on the methods that me and others used for bringing his carcass out to the surface ?
"Thank you for your support
" This post alone is enough for legal proceedings.
Thanks for your written confession 🐩
December 05, 2016, 11:38:14 AM
Instead of babbling all day long you should start to read some of the new information available, maybe it will help to resolve some of your delusions.
Link please?
December 05, 2016, 11:35:04 AM
Didn't expect that much objectivity from Cryptohunter, well said.
It could very well go the other way around, now that he's doxed.
The anonymous gang around smooth, icebreaker, badass, ocminer, your mother, could face allegations for slander and wirefraud, if their real motives surface. Its been going on for so long and XVC is not the only battlefield they were working. There is plenty of evidence all over the place. The FBI could be very interested, as its a multi million Dollar fraud going on for years, with a handful of perpetrators profiting. JC was an easy victim for the vultures, like many other dev teams that were destroyed.
The coin is doing fine, the market hasn't collapsed, still buyers, still volume.
This story is far from over.
It could very well go the other way around, now that he's doxed.
The anonymous gang around smooth, icebreaker, badass, ocminer, your mother, could face allegations for slander and wirefraud, if their real motives surface. Its been going on for so long and XVC is not the only battlefield they were working. There is plenty of evidence all over the place. The FBI could be very interested, as its a multi million Dollar fraud going on for years, with a handful of perpetrators profiting. JC was an easy victim for the vultures, like many other dev teams that were destroyed.
The coin is doing fine, the market hasn't collapsed, still buyers, still volume.
This story is far from over.
"Slander - the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation."
What in the name of fuck are you talking about, son ?
Everything that i have used for revealing the charlatan was taken from social networks, mugshots.com and various other documents that are publicly available on the internet. How about we focus on the scumbag john julian connor cain ashley and his intentions and not on the methods that me and others used for bringing his carcass out to the surface ?
"Thank you for your support
" December 05, 2016, 11:26:04 AM
The anonymous gang around smooth ... if their real motives surface
I don't believe that. Smooth has ... bla bla bla
Instead of babbling all day long you should start to read some of the new information available, maybe it will help to resolve some of your delusions.
December 05, 2016, 11:09:40 AM
Would be very interesting to know the real real story. Was interesting to watch in real time.
Now he is doxxed what's the harm in coming back and giving his full side of the story with evidence to back it up if he has some.
Is he paranoid and crazy? Is he just a pump and dump long con scammer? are there people crushing this project for their own gains? is there some other angle we are not seeing?
Come back Julian we want to know what really happened. It can't look much worse and we (are pretty certain) know who you are now.
Say you promise to be good and now that you're fully accountable there could be a way back to the helm and out of this mess if you can show some evidence and good reason to have acted in this manner.
Who had worked with Julian in the past.... anyone actually met or known him?
Now his identity is known would the vcash community accept him back if he provided enough evidence to provide good reason to just dump and crush the project, or is all trust broken now and even though his real identity could protect against future tantrums would that not be enough to reinstate him.
Let's at the very least have an official xvc thread opened instead of following 3 different unofficial ones. Is there any captain ready to take over?.
I like reading things on this board not joining slacks and other boards to find out details.
Where is the Greg meredith thread (synerio dev maybe spelled his name wrong) another fascinating story unfolding.
This main section should be made for these threads to keep us appraised. Out of reach of the controlled ANN environment. This man seems another singular brain box in his community, his work seems beyond everyone else on his team so when he tells them he wants a fortune and he may not keep his paid R and D for the sole good of the community that is meant to be funding him they go to pieces and need to start again from scratch and years are wasted with a bunch of investors time/money too.
Or is that even the real story on Greg? is he too a victim that is being made the bad guy?
These kind of people and their work should be discussed and peer reviewed here on the main alt section beyond their ann threads with self moderation and lock down abilities. Maybe we should have a developer section? any project worth looking into should have their dev/dev team verified and ongoing discussion detailing their work verifiable and completed and their proposed milestones met, obviously previous experience with evidence and support doc and peer reviews. Any other devs should be classed as high risk. Lets give incentive to be a good dev and produce useful work for investment given. Yeah you see some small background sometimes on the opening ann but look now at Vox it looks like another shady project and yet the owner of CNET was used to inspire confidence....looking deeper though ...perhaps he just likes to run up huge debts and waste other peoples cash...who is their actual developer? A developer section with ratings could be very useful.
Anyway back to Julian are you coming back to tell us the full story. At least one final post detailing everything leading up to this. Good to hear your side of it.
Now he is doxxed what's the harm in coming back and giving his full side of the story with evidence to back it up if he has some.
Is he paranoid and crazy? Is he just a pump and dump long con scammer? are there people crushing this project for their own gains? is there some other angle we are not seeing?
Come back Julian we want to know what really happened. It can't look much worse and we (are pretty certain) know who you are now.
Say you promise to be good and now that you're fully accountable there could be a way back to the helm and out of this mess if you can show some evidence and good reason to have acted in this manner.
Who had worked with Julian in the past.... anyone actually met or known him?
Now his identity is known would the vcash community accept him back if he provided enough evidence to provide good reason to just dump and crush the project, or is all trust broken now and even though his real identity could protect against future tantrums would that not be enough to reinstate him.
Let's at the very least have an official xvc thread opened instead of following 3 different unofficial ones. Is there any captain ready to take over?.
I like reading things on this board not joining slacks and other boards to find out details.
Where is the Greg meredith thread (synerio dev maybe spelled his name wrong) another fascinating story unfolding.
This main section should be made for these threads to keep us appraised. Out of reach of the controlled ANN environment. This man seems another singular brain box in his community, his work seems beyond everyone else on his team so when he tells them he wants a fortune and he may not keep his paid R and D for the sole good of the community that is meant to be funding him they go to pieces and need to start again from scratch and years are wasted with a bunch of investors time/money too.
Or is that even the real story on Greg? is he too a victim that is being made the bad guy?
These kind of people and their work should be discussed and peer reviewed here on the main alt section beyond their ann threads with self moderation and lock down abilities. Maybe we should have a developer section? any project worth looking into should have their dev/dev team verified and ongoing discussion detailing their work verifiable and completed and their proposed milestones met, obviously previous experience with evidence and support doc and peer reviews. Any other devs should be classed as high risk. Lets give incentive to be a good dev and produce useful work for investment given. Yeah you see some small background sometimes on the opening ann but look now at Vox it looks like another shady project and yet the owner of CNET was used to inspire confidence....looking deeper though ...perhaps he just likes to run up huge debts and waste other peoples cash...who is their actual developer? A developer section with ratings could be very useful.
Anyway back to Julian are you coming back to tell us the full story. At least one final post detailing everything leading up to this. Good to hear your side of it.
December 05, 2016, 11:01:56 AM
The anonymous gang around smooth ... if their real motives surface
I don't believe that. Smooth has helped many people on this forum and he even defended JC:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17086298
What smooth didn't like was that JC was making claims of being a supreme expert and that all his code was original and yet he was actually using code from Bitcoin and his algorithms and whitepapers were lacking. (I am not defending iCEBREAKER who tends to be too political and hyper-critical of any coin he is not invested in)
JC is apparently a reasonably talented P2P (Bittorrent) dev (as I had long since publicly speculated that he was) and perhaps could be a great team member on a coin if his attitude improved (didn't he do good work in the past in Bittorrent group development?), but he is not capable of creating any significant breakthroughs for our ecosystem by himself (as evident by the half-ass shit Zerotime and anonymity he produced). You shills can go on and on about "break it if you can", but it doesn't change the fact that we are collection of experts and we know what the fuck we are talking about. And you don't! So STFU or go on babbling your ignorance, your choice.
JC mislead speculators. Period. And for that he is receiving some animosity.
If he wants to come back, be non-anonymous subject to public scrutiny and improve his ethics (and cut out the drugs!), then maybe the community will give him another chance. But he needs to build a team of devs. One man shows are impossible. This stuff is way too complex and too much work for a one man development team.
I am not saying that he never had an original design idea. Apparently he made many tweaks which resulted in some better performance and compression characteristics. But those aren't apparently game changers. I know you Vcash supporters think they are, but I have a surprise coming for you.
Smooth et al stopped policing the altcoin discussion forums. They let JC destroy himself. You n00b speculators are so easily fooled, because you don't think clearly. You believe any technobabble that is thrown your direction. Or maybe you don't care, as long as you can fool some other n00bs. And this always backfires in the end. Only correct effort and honesty workout in the long-run. Ethics matter a lot for success. Those who cut corners end up failing. So don't blame your failure on smooth.
December 05, 2016, 09:14:58 AM
Didn't expect that much objectivity from Cryptohunter, well said.
It could very well go the other way around, now that he's doxed.
The anonymous gang around smooth, icebreaker, badass, ocminer, your mother, could face allegations for slander and wirefraud, if their real motives surface. Its been going on for so long and XVC is not the only battlefield they were working. There is plenty of evidence all over the place. The FBI could be very interested, as its a multi million Dollar fraud going on for years, with a handful of perpetrators profiting. JC was an easy victim for the vultures, like many other dev teams that were destroyed.
The coin is doing fine, the market hasn't collapsed, still buyers, still volume.
This story is far from over.
It could very well go the other way around, now that he's doxed.
The anonymous gang around smooth, icebreaker, badass, ocminer, your mother, could face allegations for slander and wirefraud, if their real motives surface. Its been going on for so long and XVC is not the only battlefield they were working. There is plenty of evidence all over the place. The FBI could be very interested, as its a multi million Dollar fraud going on for years, with a handful of perpetrators profiting. JC was an easy victim for the vultures, like many other dev teams that were destroyed.
The coin is doing fine, the market hasn't collapsed, still buyers, still volume.
This story is far from over.
Actually I do believe that, word-by-word.
Also, they shill monero at the same time. Over and over and over and over.
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