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Topic: Just-Dice reopening for business - page 3. (Read 4561 times)

legendary
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September 16, 2014, 03:09:58 AM
#13
... contemplating whether to take up one of the many offers I've received from people who seem happy to set up offshore companies that will run JD legally, while I have exclusive control of the server and the day-to-day running of operations

...but I guess I'll get back into the game at some point.

I am happy to hear that you are at least considering to get back in the game. As you said, "Trust" is the primary concern, not the software. There are just no dice site one can trust nowadays, the bitcoin community does need JD (you) back.
hero member
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September 15, 2014, 08:41:44 PM
#12
As for licensing the software, I think that's kind of missing the point. Anyone can develop equivalent or better software pretty easily. What people need is to be able to trust the site's operator not to run off with their coins, and not to play against them using the server seeds. That "trustability" is not something that can be licensed out.

Which is an argument for open-sourcing the code. No sense is having two people write the same code twice.

Although it might give you problems if someone sees a Just-Dice replica and trusts another users with their coins, thinking that the JD software makes their coins safer.
legendary
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September 15, 2014, 08:28:59 PM
#11
Doog has said elsewhere that he does not anticipate re-opening Just-Dice as it would require him re-locating to a different country and he likes it just fine where he is at in Canada.  He said he does not miss running Just-Dice. 

Perhaps he could sell licenses to the Just-Dice software or sell it outright to another.  I don't know if that would impact any Canadian laws or not.  Just a thought.

When I saw dicebitco.in running well, attracting a large bankroll, having good customer support, etc. I felt like there was no need for Just-Dice to exist. It looked like DB would fill the position.

Then they were caught cheating, and Mateo appeared and went on a streak that would be unlikely even for nakowa to achieve, all the investors left or got destroyed, and I'm left thinking maybe we do need Just-Dice back.

I don't need to run it, from a financial point of view, but I like the idea that there's somewhere trustworthy that people can rest their coins and have a reasonable expectation of making a profit. Maybe some of the existing places are trustworthy, but I don't know how to tell any more.

As for licensing the software, I think that's kind of missing the point. Anyone can develop equivalent or better software pretty easily. What people need is to be able to trust the site's operator not to run off with their coins, and not to play against them using the server seeds. That "trustability" is not something that can be licensed out.

So for the moment I'm invested (a little) in dice.ninja, and contemplating whether to take up one of the many offers I've received from people who seem happy to set up offshore companies that will run JD legally, while I have exclusive control of the server and the day-to-day running of operations. As of right now I'm happy not to have to worry about safeguarding investor funds, or when the next whale attack is coming - but I guess I'll get back into the game at some point.
newbie
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September 15, 2014, 05:09:40 PM
#10
Doog has said elsewhere that he does not anticipate re-opening Just-Dice as it would require him re-locating to a different country and he likes it just fine where he is at in Canada.  He said he does not miss running Just-Dice. 

Perhaps he could sell licenses to the Just-Dice software or sell it outright to another.  I don't know if that would impact any Canadian laws or not.  Just a thought.
legendary
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September 15, 2014, 02:41:55 PM
#9

Ever since JD shut down there has not been a reputable bitcoin related casino that accepts investor funds.

There's prcdice.eu started in 2013, they accept investments (BTC + DOGE).

Were you not aware of them, or do you think they're not reputable?


On the side note, I wish FortuneJack.com had the option to invest, very ambitious, young site. They've got 'Anybet' option where you can propose your own bets.
legendary
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September 15, 2014, 08:46:32 AM
#8
https://PeerBet.org is on the oldest and most established Dice games around, and is backed by the public Company CBTC (CasinoBitco.in).

PeerBet 2.0, a complete overhaul and redesign, is about to launch this month.

Just calling this out as you mention there is no established Dice site that accepts investments.
full member
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September 15, 2014, 08:33:05 AM
#7
Yeah Dooglus, come operate from Mexico --  you don't need to worry much about the government here, and I can show you the best taco stands.

Sure there is dice-ninja however they are very new
They guys behind it have been around a lot longer than dice.ninja, at least personally I don't any insecurities about putting my money there.


legendary
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September 15, 2014, 06:42:47 AM
#6
Yes, I would very much like JD to come back, there is no trusting dice sites any more, but I believe Dooglus don't want any business dealings with bitcoin any time soon, until Canadian laws give him a green light.
sr. member
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I lost the liqour money boys...
September 15, 2014, 06:35:38 AM
#5
Just gamble at pocketrocketscasino. They're around longer than JD and still in operation. Dice, blackjack and poker (NLHE, PLO, OFC)
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Calling out scams, one HYIP at a time...
September 15, 2014, 05:38:41 AM
#4
I'm not sure if all of the recent bad stuff happening with dice sites is pushing Doog closer or further from wanting to bring back JD.
sr. member
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September 15, 2014, 05:30:02 AM
#3
I would like JD to reopen but with designed interface this time (designed by designer not programmer)
full member
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September 14, 2014, 10:37:33 PM
#2
I would love to see JD reopen for business. Dooglus was a champion for fairness and the site was around for a very long time. It was sad to see it close down.
sr. member
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September 14, 2014, 09:14:43 PM
#1
Hello all -

Ever since JD shut down there has not been a reputable bitcoin related casino that accepts investor funds. Sure there is dice-ninja however they are very new and I would not trust them with my money. Sure there was dicebitco.in, however we all know how that ended up (very badly).

I think that dooglus should reopen just-dice for business, either by operating outside of Canada (they said the reason they shut down was because of Canadian rules on electronic currencies), or otherwise by figuring out a way to reopen JD without the risk of litigation to the sites operators.

There is also the issue of needing a place to gamble funds in a casino that users know is going to be fair. The vast majority of sites on here are not reputable enough for users to know for sure that the bets are fair. Sure many sites allow you to check your bets, however this process is generally too complicated for most users and even users who understand how to do this will likely not check all of their bets when they make a thousand (or more bets). Sure there is PD which is generally reputable enough however I personally would rather gamble at a site run by dooglus that distributes site profits to many investors then a site run by stunna that all profits go to him (or his private investors).

I am curious to know what the gambling communities opinion on wanting dooglus reopening Just dice is.

Full Disclosure: I am not able to speak on dooglus's behalf nor am I affiliated in any way with Just-Dice, nor can I speak on behalf of JD.

Hopefully if enough people voice positive opinion regarding just-dice then it would potentially get dooglus to want to reopen the site!
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