Topic: Just-Dice scam - page 3. (Read 3492 times)

I have never played nor ever will play at just-dice, I won't invest either. We have free speech here and I feel as if the community needs people like me more than ever to shed some light on scams before shit hits the fan and everyone is bitching and moaning on the forums like post-Gox again.

Your insults are pointless, discredit my claims don't insult the messenger, plus thanks for re-wording exactly what I've told you and sending it back, I appreciate despite the fact that the way I've said it was more classy.

Me quoting your insults are meant to shed some light on the kind of degeneracy that looms those chats, not as a compliment, but take it however you will.

Not by me you weren't.  I was incredibly patient with you even though you failed to present any kind of reasonable point.

Eventually one of the chat moderators with less patience than myself put an end to your pointless trolling.

I can post a log of the chat if you like so others can decide whether:


or whether you were just trolling.


This is the kind of nonsense you were spouting in the chat too.  I'll try to address it.

* I don't add any fake bets to the site.  The server often struggles to keep up with the volume of real bets we get.  I don't need to add any more volume.  I add artificial delays to low-stake bets precisely to reduce the number of bets going through the server.  This is documented in the FAQ tab.

* Even if I did add fake bets, this wouldn't have anything to do with whether the site is provably fair or not.  The fake bets wouldn't affect your chance of winning or losing.  You can verify that all your rolls were made fairly.

* Why would the presence of fake bets make the site look more secure than it is?  It wouldn't.

* Why would I care about making the site look like it's worth more than it is?  It's not for sale.  I've turned down several huge buy-out offers.

* Players bet on Just-Dice because it's provably fair, and because it has a long (in Bitcoin years) history of reliably paying out winners.

* I don't need to attract investors.  I have too many already.  They're diluting my share of the profits.  I don't need to make the site look more attractive to investors.

Did I miss anything?  Oh, you think I use MySQL and PHP?  I don't.


Someone asked me to provide complete blockchain transaction histories for all players once before, too.  Was that you?  I could quite easily provide a bunch of fake deposit transactions to go along with any fake bets.  You're probably not realising that most of the bets are really tiny dust bets, worth fractions of a cent.  It would be trivial to find enough untainted coins to produce txids for deposits to these 'fake' accounts.  So I'd be publishing personal information of every player for no gain at all, other than kind of convincing you that I'm not adding fake bets to the site that make no sense for me to add anyway.  No thanks.


As it currently stands, there's a third-party bot in the chat that you can register your deposit address with, for the purposes of collecting 'rain'.  Many players chose to disclose their deposit address, and along with it their deposit history.  I don't want to force that disclosure on everyone.


I don't know if you're familiar with how Just-Dice proves its solvency on a weekly basis, but we've been doing it since before MtGox closed.  Search the FAQ tab for "Is this site a scam or Ponzi scheme? Is it insolvent?" for full details, but basically we:

1) publish a weekly list of investor balances
2) keep the majority of invested coins in a well-known address

Each investor can then check that the coins they invested are still held by us.  This is something that MtGox wouldn't have been able to do since they apparently were insolvent, and something that has become quite fashionable since the MtGox collapse.

If you have any remaining concerns, please feel free to bring them up and I'll do my best to address them.

It is irrelevant, dooglas has proved to be untrustworthy by his sketchy behavior. It would cost little to nothing to have what I'm suggesting implemented and rule out this possibility yet he never will.

I think the exact words I used were: You are to retarded for logic and you should kill yourself and your children to avoid your genetics further polluting the human race..



Or something along those lines.

Provable fair is known to have its flaws. No system can be 100% provable fair. At then end of the day it's just some numbers proving that the rolled numbers were prerolled ahead of time and in this case were not altered.

If you think doog is going to scam you, don't play at just dice. Simple as that.


Doog has no need to run bots to make his numbers improved. He owns the #1 dice site in BTC land hands down.



You haven't a leg to stand on nor the IQ to even understand logic or reason.
I'm also glad the first thing you mentioned was me telling you to off yourself.  

Cheers you mongoloid fuck,

Kyle.T

SatoshiDice is a dice game.
Just-Dice is a Hi-Lo dice game.

SatoshiDice has also been suspected of using bots on some bets.

Please provide evidence.


Could potentially be, Satoshidice sure does prove every bet.

PrimeDice and some other betting websites doesn't do this. Plus, most people who bet also use the chat? Or all of those bots used by Dooglus, too?

Don't you owe a bunch of coins to CasinoBit bettors and investors?

Greetings,

I raised the issue of just-dice being a potential scam with Dooglus himself but was called a retard that should commit suicide to prevent my genetics from ruining the gene pool by one of the players and banned shortly after.

I was provocative to the minimum given the circumstances as I was slandered by mentally challenged players which ironically are the very ones I'm trying to save.

The point that I have raised with Dooglus is that his provably fair concept isn't secure from all vectors, in fact it has a rather large flaw that could potentially (and very likely IS) be exploited by himself. The flaw is he could potentially be running a bot that runs Mysql queries and inserts "fake" bets. This would allow to make the website seem more secure than it really is as well as giving the impression that it is significantly more busy, worth significantly more and encourage players to make bets that they otherwise wouldn't on a website with less credibility, not to mention the investments.

The solution would be to add a link next to every bet, once a user clicks the link he would be redirected to a page showing all the txids of the deposits of the user making the bet. Since Dooglus couldn't possibly have access to those amounts of untainted BTC (he couldn't keep reusing the same BTC or else we'd notice) this would disprove my claim for all the future bets on this website with little to no cost to Dooglus.

Since every account on just-dice is psuedoanonymous in nature the same way as Bitcoin addresses privacy isn't a huge concern.

Given the nature of Dooglus and his unwillingness to meet in person due to the supposed risks on his side I am calling this out as the next Mt Gox.

Please stay safe and have a nice day!