Topic: Just-Dice.com game is rigged - page 5. (Read 8595 times)

Proofless FUD.

Go act like you aren't embarrassed by this cry wolf sillyness.

Love ya.

This is why I only bet on sites that have video verification for each bet.

some peoples have hobby to put there own failures on others and this OP is also like this may be feel jealousy and doing this or may be for some intention from community

That's what he likes to do, check his previous post. He creates a new thread and whines about important people / illuminati and never posts in the thread again.

lol @ the newbies looking here and wondering what the heck is going on.

sigh, I hope I was you. Then I didn't have to prove to you anything... and I would have a much better "reputation" right now.

Yeah, unless you ARE me...

This post is bullshit, a conclusion without any solid support.

No proof, no claim.

I'm the proof that doog's site is not rigged.

Where's is the OP?  Too embarrassed to show his face here? :3

Yeah, dooglus, add that. Put the nonce count beside the bet count and bet id or something, where everyone can see it. People don't always look at the "Fair?" tab. Almost everyone looks at all other tabs and chat. And no one looks up the individual bet id just to peek at the nonce (well, I do.)

I've been reading some of your posts about the Illuminati/Bilderberg group, and I can also confirm that Bitcoin is a scam, the Internet is a fad, and the Sun revolves around the Earth. Thanks for the tip, Actor_Tom_Truong.

A easy way around this would be to put the nonce on their betting page so they can see what nonce each bet was (alongside each bet) so any funny business would be plain as bright skies

That's quite easy to spot if the player never bets zero or low stakes.  I guess with clever enough algorithms I could fill in a reasonable looking low bet that matches the player's patterns.  Then it's my word against his.  "I never made that low bet".

So far the only disputes have been the opposite way around.  People betting high amounts and claiming that they didn't mean to.

I stand corrected. I was thinking about other people other than the owner. For both PvE and PvP, the house can always pretend to be a player. (PvE = Player vs Environment, PvP = Player vs Player)

An example of PvE = dice site with investors, such as JD and SD, and some casinos with house poker and house blackjack. PvP = those adventure games, MMORPGs, regular poker, tournament blackjack, First Person Shooters.

And I just thought of another way for dooglus to rig the game (not as easy to spot): when the next nonce is about to win, skip it. (put a zero or low bet before it and credit the low value win instead.)

Yes, that was a concern that was raised before the site launched.  As it turns out, the maximum bet is so high that nobody ever gets close to it, and reducing it to a level where it would affect anyone would be super obvious.

For casinos with a smaller bankroll however, that would be a viable way of cheating.

Also how dooglus could rig the game (but it would be super easy to spot): adjust the max bet to a lower value as soon as a (according to the previous settings) win is coming up.

Not all.  If a casino is bankrolled by a single person, then this isn't an issue.

As soon as the owner gets help bankrolling the site, however, he is able to steal from his investor.

I had the idea for Just-Dice about a year before I started work on it, and put it off thinking "who would invest when they know I could cheat them".  I tried and tried to find a way to make investing provably fair, and eventually just gave up and did it anyway.

To my surprise nobody seemed to care that I could in theory cheat them.  And even now, when the profits are only 0.61% of the wagered amount when they should be 1%, people still trust me.  So that's nice.  Basically the site has earned a lot less than it 'should' have, and I could easily have stolen the difference.  I didn't, and people trust that I didn't.  Mostly.

Since 'celeste' took around 4k from the site, the profit has pretty closely followed expectation (the green line below is 3.9k below expectation; once you're 3.9k below expectation, the expectation is that you stay there...):



A couple of weeks ago I heard a rumour that some people unknown were planning to "out" me as being 'celeste', the whale who won on Just-Dice.  As far as I know, nothing ever came of that, so I don't know what that was all about.  Maybe they're saving it until their own dice site launches or some such.  So there's something to look forward to. 

Holy。。。LOL

There are no "real" safeguards for this particular problem. The safeguard is that no one else has access to the internals of the site except the single, lone, administrator/owner/operator (and maybe amazon AWS, if they have a clue).

All bitcoin gambling sites have this same problem. All dice sites. All card game sites. All casinos. The solution is just another problem (and will reduce speed, and reduce profitability.)