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Quote from: dooglus on November 14, 2013, 02:09:43 PM

Quote from: moderate on November 14, 2013, 11:24:05 AM

Quote from: aksplace on November 14, 2013, 11:11:31 AM

Hell will freeze over before Douglas steals anyone's bitcoins.

This is the kind of conclusive proof that makes this forum so amazing.

This isn't proof either, but hopefully it's a little more compelling:

The site has over 5000 BTC wagered each day, even after the recent BTC price increase.

The site has a 1% house edge, and so expects to keep 50 of those 5000 wagered BTC.

I charge 10% commission on profit, so I expect to keep 5 BTC per day.

And so I have the choice of:

a) be honest, collect plenty of BTC, sleep at night, feel good about myself

b) be dishonest, collect plenty of BTC, be afraid, feel like a piece of shit

I pick (a). Maybe if I had massive debts, an expensive drug habit, or other such need for piles of coins it wouldn't be such an easy choice. But I don't, so (a) is a no-brainer for me.

Good way of explaining your situation, if only everyone else would follow your choice.

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Quote from: moderate on November 14, 2013, 02:04:57 PM

Quote from: dooglus on November 14, 2013, 01:52:42 PM

I don't use USB sticks, because they can transmit malware. All communication between the online and offline machines is done, as Rannasha said, using webcams and QR codes.

Good to know you change what you say as you see fit, you have said in the chat maybe 1 or 2 months ago that you did use usb sticks. I don't have the chat logs, btw.

I change what I say when the situation changes.

I used to use a USB stick, so I said I used a USB stick.

Now I use QR codes and webcams, so that's what I say.

I made the change after reading this Halloween horror story:

http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/10/meet-badbios-the-mysterious-mac-and-pc-malware-that-jumps-airgaps/

Whether it's true or not doesn't really matter. What matters is that the cold wallet is more secure as a result of the change I made.

I have chat logs. I searched them for me mentioning 'usb stick' and 'qr *code' and found:

Quote

[I started off claiming to use a USB stick]

2013-09-01 08:13:06 Schaden: I don't run anything that auto-runs USB sticks on the cold wallet
2013-09-13 15:40:18 Josh: I wrote a script that makes a raw transaction on the laptop and copies it to a USB stick
2013-09-17 22:48:39 Loss: this is the cold wallet: blockchain.info/address/14o7zMMUJkG6De24r3JkJ6USgChq7iWF86 -- I
use a USB stick to transfer transactions to and from it
2013-10-03 15:51:21 john: I use an offline laptop and USB stick for the cold storage

[then some 'charlotte' came into the chat with the crazy idea of using QR codes to communicate with a cold wallet]

2013-10-22 17:41:39 charlotte: QR codes can encode arbitrary text strings
2013-10-22 17:42:26 so "yes" is the answer. whatever you were going to put on the memory stick, encode as a QR
code and use a camera to do the transfer
2013-10-22 17:51:53 charlotte: even if it does, can't you just encode whatever it writes to the memory stick as a
QR code and transfer it over that way?
2013-10-22 17:53:24 charlotte: also, armory is open source Python. it shouldn't be too hard to get it to run the
QRcode encoding software itself

[a week later I read the scary article, remembered charlotte's idea, and implemented it]

2013-11-01 19:28:37 well, USB sticks are big and complex. do they have re-writable firmware on them? does your
computer auto-run something when you stick it in?
2013-11-01 19:28:58 a QR code can't contain more than about 5kB of data, so that limits what they can do for a
start
2013-11-01 19:31:43 sqwerty: so now I type a command on my laptop to request coins from the cold wallet. it pops
up a QR code like https://i.imgur.com/OTVXQ8w.png which I show to the cold wallet. the cold
wallet machine prompts for the passphrase, and shows me a similar ...
2013-11-01 19:44:58 dac: I use QRcodes to do it now
2013-11-03 07:41:01 the off-line storage is more off-line than before now. I used to use a usb stick to carry
transactions to and from it
2013-11-03 07:41:08 now I use webcams and qr codes
2013-11-03 07:41:59 yesterday I had someone in the chat transfer 500 BTC from the cold wallet using a QR code that
the cold wallet generated. was pretty cool

2013-11-03 07:48:34 the online one shows a code saying "sign this". the cold wallet reads the code, signs the tx,
generates a new qr code for the signed tx, and the online one scans it
2013-11-03 07:50:04 either way, malware on usb sticks isn't unrealistic
2013-11-03 17:12:38 Aah: I don't know how real the risk of malware spreading between linux distros via a USB stick
is, but I set up a QR code system now anyway
2013-11-03 17:12:56 it's kinda cool - the online machine and the cold wallet show each other QR codes to their
webcams
2013-11-03 17:15:56 Aah: it's a work in progress. currently I'm limited by the amount of data I can put into a
qrcode

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Quote from: dooglus on November 14, 2013, 02:09:43 PM

Quote from: moderate on November 14, 2013, 11:24:05 AM

Quote from: aksplace on November 14, 2013, 11:11:31 AM

Hell will freeze over before Douglas steals anyone's bitcoins.

This is the kind of conclusive proof that makes this forum so amazing.

This isn't proof either, but hopefully it's a little more compelling:

The site has over 5000 BTC wagered each day, even after the recent BTC price increase.

The site has a 1% house edge, and so expects to keep 50 of those 5000 wagered BTC.

I charge 10% commission on profit, so I expect to keep 5 BTC per day.

And so I have the choice of:

a) be honest, collect plenty of BTC, sleep at night, feel good about myself

b) be dishonest, collect plenty of BTC, be afraid, feel like a piece of shit

I pick (a). Maybe if I had massive debts, an expensive drug habit, or other such need for piles of coins it wouldn't be such an easy choice. But I don't, so (a) is a no-brainer for me.

/\$2000 bucks a day and climbing? ~ can I be your friend? LOL Grin

weeeee

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Quote from: moderate on November 14, 2013, 11:24:05 AM

Quote from: aksplace on November 14, 2013, 11:11:31 AM

Hell will freeze over before Douglas steals anyone's bitcoins.

This is the kind of conclusive proof that makes this forum so amazing.

This isn't proof either, but hopefully it's a little more compelling:

The site has over 5000 BTC wagered each day, even after the recent BTC price increase.

The site has a 1% house edge, and so expects to keep 50 of those 5000 wagered BTC.

I charge 10% commission on profit, so I expect to keep 5 BTC per day.

And so I have the choice of:

a) be honest, collect plenty of BTC, sleep at night, feel good about myself

b) be dishonest, collect plenty of BTC, be afraid, feel like a piece of shit

I pick (a). Maybe if I had massive debts, an expensive drug habit, or other such need for piles of coins it wouldn't be such an easy choice. But I don't, so (a) is a no-brainer for me.

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Quote from: dooglus on November 14, 2013, 01:52:42 PM

Quote from: moderate on November 14, 2013, 10:57:49 AM

Quote from: Rannasha on November 14, 2013, 08:52:59 AM

Cold wallet is on an offline machine. Communication is done via QR codes and webcams so no storage medium or network interface connects the cold wallet machine to an online machine.

LOL dude, cold wallet is by definition on an offline machine. If it is not, then the operator is simple lieing. doog just copies the unsigned transaction hex to a usb and sticks it into the supposedly offline machine, where he signs and copies it to the usb, plug the usb back to the online computer and broadcast the transaction.

"cold wallet" could refer to a paper wallet or brain wallet too. Anything not online is "cold", as I see it.

But Rannasha is right. It's on an old laptop which never goes online.

I don't use USB sticks, because they can transmit malware. All communication between the online and offline machines is done, as Rannasha said, using webcams and QR codes.

Good to know you change what you say as you see fit, you have said in the chat maybe 1 or 2 months ago that you did use usb sticks. I don't have the chat logs, btw.

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Quote from: dooglus on November 14, 2013, 01:52:42 PM

Quote from: moderate on November 14, 2013, 10:57:49 AM

Quote from: Rannasha on November 14, 2013, 08:52:59 AM

Cold wallet is on an offline machine. Communication is done via QR codes and webcams so no storage medium or network interface connects the cold wallet machine to an online machine.

LOL dude, cold wallet is by definition on an offline machine. If it is not, then the operator is simple lieing. doog just copies the unsigned transaction hex to a usb and sticks it into the supposedly offline machine, where he signs and copies it to the usb, plug the usb back to the online computer and broadcast the transaction.

"cold wallet" could refer to a paper wallet or brain wallet too. Anything not online is "cold", as I see it.

But Rannasha is right. It's on an old laptop which never goes online.

I don't use USB sticks, because they can transmit malware. All communication between the online and offline machines is done, as Rannasha said, using webcams and QR codes.

I have backups of the cold wallet private key, so losing the cold wallet isn't a problem.

What would be a problem would be if someone broke into my house, installed a keylogger on the cold wallet, then came back days later after I had typed the passphrase into it to harvest the unencrypted private key.

Someone did come in recently when we weren't home, but people around here don't even know Bitcoin exists. All they took was a bottle of vodka...

somehow i think you are like 33 steps ahead of anyone getting at your cold storage lockboxes!!!! Cool

rotflmfao~ prolly buried deep under various glaciers somewhere near the North Pole?

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Quote from: moderate on November 14, 2013, 10:57:49 AM

Quote from: Rannasha on November 14, 2013, 08:52:59 AM

Cold wallet is on an offline machine. Communication is done via QR codes and webcams so no storage medium or network interface connects the cold wallet machine to an online machine.

LOL dude, cold wallet is by definition on an offline machine. If it is not, then the operator is simple lieing. doog just copies the unsigned transaction hex to a usb and sticks it into the supposedly offline machine, where he signs and copies it to the usb, plug the usb back to the online computer and broadcast the transaction.

"cold wallet" could refer to a paper wallet or brain wallet too. Anything not online is "cold", as I see it.

But Rannasha is right. It's on an old laptop which never goes online.

I don't use USB sticks, because they can transmit malware. All communication between the online and offline machines is done, as Rannasha said, using webcams and QR codes.

I have backups of the cold wallet private key, so losing the cold wallet isn't a problem.

What would be a problem would be if someone broke into my house, installed a keylogger on the cold wallet, then came back days later after I had typed the passphrase into it to harvest the unencrypted private key.

Someone did come in recently when we weren't home, but people around here don't even know Bitcoin exists. All they took was a bottle of vodka...

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Quote from: aksplace on November 14, 2013, 11:11:31 AM

Hell will freeze over before Douglas steals anyone's bitcoins.

I am sure you know thats not true, I thought it was common knowledge that Dooglus's magic number was 100,000 bitcoins? Good thing people stopped investing too much!

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Quote from: aksplace on November 14, 2013, 11:11:31 AM

Hell will freeze over before Douglas steals anyone's bitcoins.

This is the kind of conclusive proof that makes this forum so amazing.

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Hell will freeze over before Douglas steals anyone's bitcoins.

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Quote from: elm on November 14, 2013, 09:02:51 AM

Quote from: Rannasha on November 14, 2013, 08:52:59 AM

Quote from: Martijnvdc on November 14, 2013, 07:39:31 AM

How does dooglus keep the private keys for the cold wallet, please?
If the site was compromised, they might only be able to steal the hot wallet, right?

Last I heard:
Cold wallet is on an offline machine. Communication is done via QR codes and webcams so no storage medium or network interface connects the cold wallet machine to an online machine.

sounds interesting, but are there any backups in case some one steals the offline machine?

the cold wallet is a single address, have you heard about private keys ?

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Quote from: Rannasha on November 14, 2013, 08:52:59 AM

Quote from: Martijnvdc on November 14, 2013, 07:39:31 AM

How does dooglus keep the private keys for the cold wallet, please?
If the site was compromised, they might only be able to steal the hot wallet, right?

Last I heard:
Cold wallet is on an offline machine. Communication is done via QR codes and webcams so no storage medium or network interface connects the cold wallet machine to an online machine.

LOL dude, cold wallet is by definition on an offline machine. If it is not, then the operator is simple lieing. doog just copies the unsigned transaction hex to a usb and sticks it into the supposedly offline machine, where he signs and copies it to the usb, plug the usb back to the online computer and broadcast the transaction.

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Quote from: Rannasha on November 14, 2013, 08:52:59 AM

Quote from: Martijnvdc on November 14, 2013, 07:39:31 AM

How does dooglus keep the private keys for the cold wallet, please?
If the site was compromised, they might only be able to steal the hot wallet, right?

Last I heard:
Cold wallet is on an offline machine. Communication is done via QR codes and webcams so no storage medium or network interface connects the cold wallet machine to an online machine.

sounds interesting, but are there any backups in case some one steals the offline machine?

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Quote from: Martijnvdc on November 14, 2013, 07:39:31 AM

How does dooglus keep the private keys for the cold wallet, please?
If the site was compromised, they might only be able to steal the hot wallet, right?

Last I heard:
Cold wallet is on an offline machine. Communication is done via QR codes and webcams so no storage medium or network interface connects the cold wallet machine to an online machine.

Martijnvdc

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How does dooglus keep the private keys for the cold wallet, please?
If the site was compromised, they might only be able to steal the hot wallet, right?

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Quote from: autotoss on November 14, 2013, 03:11:27 AM

I can't login. What should I do?

contact support, dooglus is very quick in those matters!

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Go to the FAQ on the page and then to "How can I contact you". There you find the email address of the owner. You can contact him and he will help you out for sure. I suggest you to give him a bit more details than 'I can't login' Tongue

Good luck!

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I can't login. What should I do?

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Quote from: BripleRipple on November 10, 2013, 02:06:00 PM

Can someone explain why sometimes after a long "delay" and then a user browser refresh the plus green "+" appears or disappears?

see screenshot here: http://grab.by/rUcG

Sometimes it shows up and sometimes is does not on just-dice.

Is it the case that the green + only shows on bets which happen after you reload the page?

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