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dooglus

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Quote from: nakaone on June 04, 2015, 04:28:15 PM

now we will have an exciting experiment on poloniex - let the traders understand the interest rate given by clams and we will see a different price range than the one given now.

I saw someone offering a CLAM loan on the poloniex loans market for 0.005% per day recently. It was only for a tiny amount, but still. that's a quarter as much as he would get simply by staking for himself.

Quote from: nakaone on June 04, 2015, 04:28:15 PM

is poloniex the biggest exchange for clams?

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/clams/#markets can answer that (ie. it isn't just the biggest, it is pretty much the only...):

nakaone

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Quote from: dooglus on May 21, 2015, 11:36:09 AM

Quote from: nakaone on May 21, 2015, 02:58:36 AM

Quote from: dooglus on May 20, 2015, 11:37:08 PM

I estimate that coins in the JD bankroll make about 0.2% per day just from staking. Any loans made would presumably have to charge at least that much.

which also had some serious implications since the interest rate for btc is around 0.04%, for dash is around 0.03% and for xmr is 0.004 % (!) Wink

CLAM is proof of stake. Everyone holding it has the opportunity to stake it and get that 0.2% interest per day. So while it is a kind of inflation, it is a fairly distributed inflation. It should still lead to the price per CLAM decreasing, but in step with the money supply increasing. The net result should be that the value in any particular staking wallet stays about the same.

Compare this to the dollar or other fiat currency, where the new coins aren't distributed to the current holders fairly. Your dollars become a smaller and smaller percentage of the money supply each time new dollars are issued, since none of them are being issued to you.

now we will have an exciting experiment on poloniex - let the traders understand the interest rate given by clams and we will see a different price range than the one given now.

is poloniex the biggest exchange for clams?

dooglus

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So we had 3 big losses recently:

swim: https://i.imgur.com/ktsKIJl.png

x: https://i.imgur.com/GJCd27g.png

and now alice: https://i.imgur.com/ByiyeQW.png

Here's how they fit on the site's recent profit chart:

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Quote from: chriswen on June 03, 2015, 06:21:01 PM

Quite a ballsy bet.

I wasn't online at the time.

Site profit has passed 90k. 327 million bets.

Oh don't tell me. That was a dumb bet. Going all in is really dumb if you have big bankroll. Congrats Doog on passing 90k profit. Make it to 100k asap Wink

dooglus

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Quote from: TwinWinNerD on June 04, 2015, 06:47:08 AM

Quote from: dooglus on June 04, 2015, 02:08:13 AM

Quote from: visionsbank on June 04, 2015, 01:46:41 AM

OH X Why you play Like that if you bet amount 1CLAM You Must be won I really sorry about your lost

I read in the chat tab that he programmed a bot to make tiny bets, looking for a streak of 1200 losses in a row at 1%, and only after that should it increase the stake to 50 CLAMs, but he accidentally typoed the 1200, missing out the '1' and so the bot started making big bets far earlier than expected.

Even then this strategy doesn't make any sense. Thats like saying I wait for 10 <50% in a row to bet on >50% and generating an edge with it.

I know it doesn't make any sense, and it doesn't work, but it does make your game last longer, just because waiting for 10 losses in a row takes ~30 times longer than only waiting for 5 losses in a row, and so you make around 30 times fewer significant bets, and last around 30 times longer... You also make profit 30 times slower, but that's the trade-off.

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Quote from: dooglus on June 04, 2015, 02:08:13 AM

Quote from: visionsbank on June 04, 2015, 01:46:41 AM

OH X Why you play Like that if you bet amount 1CLAM You Must be won I really sorry about your lost

I read in the chat tab that he programmed a bot to make tiny bets, looking for a streak of 1200 losses in a row at 1%, and only after that should it increase the stake to 50 CLAMs, but he accidentally typoed the 1200, missing out the '1' and so the bot started making big bets far earlier than expected.

Even then this strategy doesn't make any sense. Thats like saying I wait for 10 <50% in a row to bet on >50% and generating an edge with it.

dooglus

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Quote from: visionsbank on June 04, 2015, 01:46:41 AM

OH X Why you play Like that if you bet amount 1CLAM You Must be won I really sorry about your lost

I read in the chat tab that he programmed a bot to make tiny bets, looking for a streak of 1200 losses in a row at 1%, and only after that should it increase the stake to 50 CLAMs, but he accidentally typoed the 1200, missing out the '1' and so the bot started making big bets far earlier than expected.

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Quote from: dooglus on June 04, 2015, 01:39:11 AM

Quote from: chriswen on June 03, 2015, 06:21:01 PM

https://i.imgur.com/ktsKIJl.png

Quite a ballsy bet.

I wasn't online at the time.

Site profit has passed 90k. 327 million bets.

Not only that, but also this. It was a busy evening at JD:

OH X Why you play Like that if you bet amount 1CLAM You Must be won I really sorry about your lost

dooglus

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Quote from: chriswen on June 03, 2015, 06:21:01 PM

https://i.imgur.com/ktsKIJl.png

Quite a ballsy bet.

I wasn't online at the time.

Site profit has passed 90k. 327 million bets.

Not only that, but also this. It was a busy evening at JD:

chriswen

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Quite a ballsy bet.

I wasn't online at the time.

Site profit has passed 90k. 327 million bets.

dooglus

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Quote from: swaverkut on June 03, 2015, 04:47:26 AM

Hello.
I am a newbie on your site, and I have a question.
What does this message means in Chat: "12:41:21 INFO: we just staked 1.0000 CLAM (total = 196,718.5558; your share = 0.00000014; your total = 0.00012216)" and when does this summ "CLAMS" added?

CLAM is proof-of-stake. You earn coins just by holding them. When you invest in JD, JD earns coins just by holding your coins. We give 90% of the earned rewards back to you.

That line is saying that we've earned a total of 196k CLAM from staking, the of the 1 CLAM we just earned you got 14 satoshis, and that in total you have earned 12216 satoshis from staking.

It's added to your investment when the message is displayed, in real time.

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Quote from: swaverkut on June 03, 2015, 04:47:26 AM

Hello.
I am a newbie on your site, and I have a question.
What does this message means in Chat: "12:41:21 INFO: we just staked 1.0000 CLAM (total = 196,718.5558; your share = 0.00000014; your total = 0.00012216)" and when does this summ "CLAMS" added?

I do believe this very question is answered on the FAQ tab on the site.

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Hello.
I am a newbie on your site, and I have a question.
What does this message means in Chat: "12:41:21 INFO: we just staked 1.0000 CLAM (total = 196,718.5558; your share = 0.00000014; your total = 0.00012216)" and when does this summ "CLAMS" added?

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Quote from: freedomno1 on May 31, 2015, 04:45:32 PM

Quote from: dooglus on May 29, 2015, 02:08:11 PM

I made a chart of the last month or so, labelling all the big wins and losses:

In other words its a richter scale
Watch out a whale is incoming since were in high tides ha-ha but that is neat

Neat graph Cheesy

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My investment is growing rly nice lately . Almost doubled my initial investment.

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Quote from: dooglus on May 29, 2015, 02:08:11 PM

I made a chart of the last month or so, labelling all the big wins and losses:

In other words its a richter scale
Watch out a whale is incoming since were in high tides ha-ha but that is neat

galbros

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Quote from: dooglus on May 29, 2015, 02:08:11 PM

I love this chart as well. Thanks for making it. It shows one thing very clearly, no matter how much you win, if you keep playing the investors are going to get your coins!

I hope you'll have time to make one for all of JD's history!

Good Luck!

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Quote from: dooglus on May 29, 2015, 02:08:11 PM

I made a chart of the last month or so, labelling all the big wins and losses:

Nice! This can be called JD Geography, with all the mountains and the valleys.

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Quote from: dooglus on May 26, 2015, 04:54:38 PM

This just in:

I looked at the bet log, and it's weird:

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+-----------+--------------+---------+---------------------+---------------+
| betid | stake | nonce | date | profit |
+-----------+--------------+---------+---------------------+---------------+
| 289769586 | 484.17309229 | 4360076 | 2015-05-26 21:50:56 | -484.17309229 |
| 289769534 | 0.0001 | 4360075 | 2015-05-26 21:50:56 | 0.000065 |
| 289769514 | 190.73514798 | 4360074 | 2015-05-26 21:50:55 | -190.73514798 |
| 289769462 | 75.1382042 | 4360073 | 2015-05-26 21:50:55 | -75.1382042 |
| 289769449 | 0.0001 | 4360072 | 2015-05-26 21:50:54 | 0.000065 |
| 289769392 | 0.0001 | 4360071 | 2015-05-26 21:50:54 | -0.0001 |
| 289769335 | 29.59994416 | 4360070 | 2015-05-26 21:50:53 | -29.59994416 |
| 289769326 | 11.660602 | 4360069 | 2015-05-26 21:50:53 | -11.660602 |
| 289769299 | 0.0001 | 4360068 | 2015-05-26 21:50:52 | 0.000065 |
| 289769257 | 4.59357755 | 4360067 | 2015-05-26 21:50:51 | -4.59357755 |
| 289769204 | 1.80959394 | 4360066 | 2015-05-26 21:50:51 | -1.80959394 |
| 289769193 | 0.0001 | 4360065 | 2015-05-26 21:50:51 | 0.000065 |
| 289769136 | 0.71287144 | 4360064 | 2015-05-26 21:50:50 | -0.71287144 |
| 289769124 | 0.28082858 | 4360063 | 2015-05-26 21:50:50 | -0.28082858 |
| 289769110 | 0.0001 | 4360062 | 2015-05-26 21:50:49 | 0.000065 |
| 289769063 | 0.0001 | 4360061 | 2015-05-26 21:50:48 | -0.0001 |
| 289769008 | 0.11062961 | 4360060 | 2015-05-26 21:50:48 | -0.11062961 |
| 289768998 | 0.04358143 | 4360059 | 2015-05-26 21:50:47 | -0.04358143 |
| 289768956 | 0.0001 | 4360058 | 2015-05-26 21:50:47 | 0.000065 |
| 289768900 | 0.01716847 | 4360057 | 2015-05-26 21:50:46 | -0.01716847 |
| 289768893 | 0.00676335 | 4360056 | 2015-05-26 21:50:46 | -0.00676335 |
| 289768866 | 0.0001 | 4360055 | 2015-05-26 21:50:45 | 0.000065 |
| 289768825 | 0.0001 | 4360054 | 2015-05-26 21:50:45 | -0.0001 |
| 289768769 | 0.0001 | 4360053 | 2015-05-26 21:50:44 | -0.0001 |
| 289768750 | 0.00266435 | 4360052 | 2015-05-26 21:50:43 | -0.00266435 |
| 289768698 | 0.00266435 | 4360051 | 2015-05-26 21:50:42 | 0.00173182 |
| 289768646 | 0.01716839 | 4360050 | 2015-05-26 21:50:42 | 0.01115945 |
| 289768637 | 0.00676332 | 4360049 | 2015-05-26 21:50:41 | -0.00676332 |
| 289768585 | 0.0001 | 4360048 | 2015-05-26 21:50:41 | 0.000065 |
| 289768572 | 0.0001 | 4360047 | 2015-05-26 21:50:40 | -0.0001 |
| 289768513 | 0.00266434 | 4360046 | 2015-05-26 21:50:40 | -0.00266434 |
| 289768505 | 0.0067633 | 4360045 | 2015-05-26 21:50:39 | 0.00439614 |
| 289768447 | 0.00266433 | 4360044 | 2015-05-26 21:50:39 | -0.00266433 |
| 289768437 | 0.00266433 | 4360043 | 2015-05-26 21:50:38 | 0.00173181 |
| 289768383 | 0.00266432 | 4360042 | 2015-05-26 21:50:38 | 0.0017318 |
| 289768374 | 0.00266432 | 4360041 | 2015-05-26 21:50:37 | 0.0017318 |
| 289768319 | 0.00266431 | 4360040 | 2015-05-26 21:50:37 | 0.0017318 |
| 289768312 | 0.00266431 | 4360039 | 2015-05-26 21:50:36 | 0.0017318 |
+-----------+--------------+---------+---------------------+---------------+

It looks like two bots running at the same time on the same account - one running martingale, and one flat-betting?

It looks like he might be pre-rolling. Or looking for a certain pattern to form. I've tried that before. Didn't work for me.

dooglus

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I made a chart of the last month or so, labelling all the big wins and losses:

dooglus

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This just in:

I looked at the bet log, and it's weird:

Quote

+-----------+--------------+---------+---------------------+---------------+
| betid | stake | nonce | date | profit |
+-----------+--------------+---------+---------------------+---------------+
| 289769586 | 484.17309229 | 4360076 | 2015-05-26 21:50:56 | -484.17309229 |
| 289769534 | 0.0001 | 4360075 | 2015-05-26 21:50:56 | 0.000065 |
| 289769514 | 190.73514798 | 4360074 | 2015-05-26 21:50:55 | -190.73514798 |
| 289769462 | 75.1382042 | 4360073 | 2015-05-26 21:50:55 | -75.1382042 |
| 289769449 | 0.0001 | 4360072 | 2015-05-26 21:50:54 | 0.000065 |
| 289769392 | 0.0001 | 4360071 | 2015-05-26 21:50:54 | -0.0001 |
| 289769335 | 29.59994416 | 4360070 | 2015-05-26 21:50:53 | -29.59994416 |
| 289769326 | 11.660602 | 4360069 | 2015-05-26 21:50:53 | -11.660602 |
| 289769299 | 0.0001 | 4360068 | 2015-05-26 21:50:52 | 0.000065 |
| 289769257 | 4.59357755 | 4360067 | 2015-05-26 21:50:51 | -4.59357755 |
| 289769204 | 1.80959394 | 4360066 | 2015-05-26 21:50:51 | -1.80959394 |
| 289769193 | 0.0001 | 4360065 | 2015-05-26 21:50:51 | 0.000065 |
| 289769136 | 0.71287144 | 4360064 | 2015-05-26 21:50:50 | -0.71287144 |
| 289769124 | 0.28082858 | 4360063 | 2015-05-26 21:50:50 | -0.28082858 |
| 289769110 | 0.0001 | 4360062 | 2015-05-26 21:50:49 | 0.000065 |
| 289769063 | 0.0001 | 4360061 | 2015-05-26 21:50:48 | -0.0001 |
| 289769008 | 0.11062961 | 4360060 | 2015-05-26 21:50:48 | -0.11062961 |
| 289768998 | 0.04358143 | 4360059 | 2015-05-26 21:50:47 | -0.04358143 |
| 289768956 | 0.0001 | 4360058 | 2015-05-26 21:50:47 | 0.000065 |
| 289768900 | 0.01716847 | 4360057 | 2015-05-26 21:50:46 | -0.01716847 |
| 289768893 | 0.00676335 | 4360056 | 2015-05-26 21:50:46 | -0.00676335 |
| 289768866 | 0.0001 | 4360055 | 2015-05-26 21:50:45 | 0.000065 |
| 289768825 | 0.0001 | 4360054 | 2015-05-26 21:50:45 | -0.0001 |
| 289768769 | 0.0001 | 4360053 | 2015-05-26 21:50:44 | -0.0001 |
| 289768750 | 0.00266435 | 4360052 | 2015-05-26 21:50:43 | -0.00266435 |
| 289768698 | 0.00266435 | 4360051 | 2015-05-26 21:50:42 | 0.00173182 |
| 289768646 | 0.01716839 | 4360050 | 2015-05-26 21:50:42 | 0.01115945 |
| 289768637 | 0.00676332 | 4360049 | 2015-05-26 21:50:41 | -0.00676332 |
| 289768585 | 0.0001 | 4360048 | 2015-05-26 21:50:41 | 0.000065 |
| 289768572 | 0.0001 | 4360047 | 2015-05-26 21:50:40 | -0.0001 |
| 289768513 | 0.00266434 | 4360046 | 2015-05-26 21:50:40 | -0.00266434 |
| 289768505 | 0.0067633 | 4360045 | 2015-05-26 21:50:39 | 0.00439614 |
| 289768447 | 0.00266433 | 4360044 | 2015-05-26 21:50:39 | -0.00266433 |
| 289768437 | 0.00266433 | 4360043 | 2015-05-26 21:50:38 | 0.00173181 |
| 289768383 | 0.00266432 | 4360042 | 2015-05-26 21:50:38 | 0.0017318 |
| 289768374 | 0.00266432 | 4360041 | 2015-05-26 21:50:37 | 0.0017318 |
| 289768319 | 0.00266431 | 4360040 | 2015-05-26 21:50:37 | 0.0017318 |
| 289768312 | 0.00266431 | 4360039 | 2015-05-26 21:50:36 | 0.0017318 |
+-----------+--------------+---------+---------------------+---------------+

It looks like two bots running at the same time on the same account - one running martingale, and one flat-betting?

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