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Minnlo

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Quote from: RDMINER on June 24, 2014, 03:17:31 AM

Excuse me, I have just withdraw my investment from just dice. English is not my first language. I understood that just dice closed for canadian laws, but it will open again. Am I correct? Thank you.

Probably, but we are not really sure.

Quote from: dooglus on June 23, 2014, 03:30:02 PM

I guess I should take a few seconds out from trying to get the withdrawals working as smoothly as possible to confirm that we are suspending betting and deposits until it becomes clearer what the new Canadian law means for us.

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Quote from: Palantir on June 24, 2014, 03:15:41 AM

Quote from: Sukrim on June 24, 2014, 02:42:06 AM

The site ist STILL down after the login for me by the way and only shows the CloudFlare static page.

Do you use VPN? I've sometimes had problems with that, especially after changing the country. The site is working, I just transferred my coins successfully.

Hm, no... there were some other issues though, I'll just extend my existing ticket and wait + see.

RDMINER:
For now they stop gambling and check out if they are subject to that canadian law. Then act accordingly to stay legal (stay closed, get a license, re-open unmodified, ban all Canadians...)

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Excuse me, I have just withdraw my investment from just dice. English is not my first language. I understood that just dice closed for canadian laws, but it will open again. Am I correct? Thank you.

Palantir

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Quote from: Sukrim on June 24, 2014, 02:42:06 AM

Then they'd still need to do KYC to ensure there are no Canadians amongst their users.

Depends... banning Canadian ip-addresses might suffice.

Quote from: Sukrim on June 24, 2014, 02:42:06 AM

The site ist STILL down after the login for me by the way and only shows the CloudFlare static page.

Do you use VPN? I've sometimes had problems with that, especially after changing the country. The site is working, I just transferred my coins successfully.

Minnlo

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Quote from: cech4204a on June 23, 2014, 07:18:27 PM

I noticed that investments are going down with a crazy speed, i guess something is fishy here, lucky i did withdraw what i had left there on time.

Fishy? The investments are going down, because doog literally asked everyone to withdraw their bitcoin.

Quote from: dooglus on June 23, 2014, 03:30:02 PM

I guess I should take a few seconds out from trying to get the withdrawals working as smoothly as possible to confirm that we are suspending betting and deposits until it becomes clearer what the new Canadian law means for us.

Sorry for the inconvenience. Hopefully we will be able to be back up and running at some point, but for now I think it is best if you divest and withdraw your coins.

Obviously there's quite a rush of withdrawals at the moment, and I'm trying my best to keep the hot wallet full.

We don't ever spend unconfirmed "change" outputs, so there's a bit of a bottleneck in that respect. If you can't withdraw now, please wait for a block to be mined and try again.

If you need to withdraw a large (> 50 BTC) amount, please try it on the site first, and if it fails, email [email protected] repeating the amount, destination address, and userid (number, on the account tab) and I will manually process your withdrawal for you.

Thanks for your patience, and sorry again that I have to do this, but I don't want to risk having your coins confiscated for "money laundering" now that Canada appears to have decided that Bitcoin is money after all.

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Then they'd still need to do KYC to ensure there are no Canadians amongst their users.

The site ist STILL down after the login for me by the way and only shows the CloudFlare static page.

Palantir

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Most, if not all, Western countries have a system, where one can ask the authorities how exactly they're going to apply a certain law. So, in this case there's a need to know if all that KYC stuff applies also to BTC gambling, and not just exchanging BTC/CAD. Also, could JD continue as usual, if they wouldn't accept Canadian clients? That would surely be a suboptimal solution, but better than shutting down completely. I gather that Doog & Deb aren't enthusiastic about registering in Panama, Malta, Gibraltar or similar.

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Kinda a bummer... When I first heard about Just-Dice having to shut it's doors, I thought "oh great, now I won't get my investment back."
Well that wasn't true. After sending a quick email to the support team and a quick withdraw, everything went smooth.

It's nice to see a Bitcoin gambling related site with so much honesty & sincerity. The community needs more like them!

Good luck guys!

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on June 23, 2014, 10:44:06 PM

The end of an era

Gonna stop you right there and cross my fingers. Nowhere did doog say "I'm quitting the business forever and shutting down the site." It's just a hiatus.

Alright the end of an era FOR NOW

Till another day when just-dice rises from the ashes and comes back to life
Let this be a short hiatus then hopefully less than one or two seasons
(Goes to edit previous post)

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on June 23, 2014, 10:44:06 PM

The end of an era

Gonna stop you right there and cross my fingers. Nowhere did doog say "I'm quitting the business forever and shutting down the site." It's just a hiatus.

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I read the whole thing. I'm pretty certain the new law applies to fiat <-> BTC 'dealings' only. You're jumping into panic mode thinking one nation can govern the world wide web, and currencies outside of their control. JD was not hosted in canada and was not 'targeting' Canadians, what's the logic for applying this to all of bitcoin everywhere in the world?

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The end of an era for now in safe bitcoin gambling
Kudos to Dooglus and Just-Dice and Deb at Doge-Dice
For their transparency and good betting system

Even with a 1% house edge it still made a killing and its as close as you could get to a truly honest and fair casino
No higher edge / Building costs like a normal casino

Let the phoenix of Bitcoin gambling rise up again sooner than later

m5j0r

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I think you need to read the last few pages BetMoose.
tl;dr: canada, regulations, btc not longer playmoney

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Quote from: ABitInterested on June 23, 2014, 08:45:01 PM

Quote from: BetMoose on June 23, 2014, 07:08:50 PM

What's the issue here, are JD servers in Canada?

The myth that where your servers are has fuck all to do with how your business is regulated by your home country needs to die. Server location is not relevant in any way.

So.... what's the issue?

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Quote from: BetMoose on June 23, 2014, 07:08:50 PM

What's the issue here, are JD servers in Canada?

The myth that where your servers are has fuck all to do with how your business is regulated by your home country needs to die. Server location is not relevant in any way.

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Quote from: icey on June 23, 2014, 03:19:16 PM

Better safe than sorry it seems. The sums of money involved here are huge, and all credit to doog taking the cautious approach. Once the dust settles and things turn out not to be as bad as first thought I'm sure people will re-invest and betting will resume.

Same I appreciate the caution and am glad my coins are returned safely and not seized my trust is well placed
I hope the legal dust settles and re-investing and betting will resume sooner than later
Back to the vault for now

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Today has been a sad day.. Thanks for everything Doog! Can't wait for you to re open

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I noticed that investments are going down with a crazy speed, i guess something is fishy here, lucky i did withdraw what i had left there on time.

BetMoose

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What's the issue here, are JD servers in Canada?

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Cloudflare claims JD is down by the way... Undecided

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