Topic: Just learned that I am now a DT2 member. Please advise (Read 597 times)

Most of them weren't exactly active and still have some very odd/inactive people on their lists.

Oh, but he is. He's just a bit confused sometimes. 

     I was under the impression that suchmoon was one of the main disciples of the Cult of Lauda. I guess that I have much more to learn.

I don't know why you are to much worried about tag some one if there is really something wrong. If there is nothing scam or abuse related then you should not leave feedback just for that you don't like them. If you don't like see someone on DT then reply on meta post and explain why you don't like. Probably he will be excluded by DT1 members. If you found something wrong about DT1 or DT2 then it would be better to open a thread on reputation so other DT will check the case.


On the other hand positive feedback is not required to fight with scammer. Even when I was not on DT I was fight with scammer and DT as well. If you fight legal way then you don't need to worry. Although you get tag, there will be counter tag by other DT. So don't worry during fight with obvious scammer.

To be honest most of old DT1 don't like inclusion new members. You can check trust list. Although I am included by 6 DT1 but there is only 1 is old. It's true I don't know much of them and they also don't know me. I have spent most of time on reputation and scam accusation. So usually most of conversation with suchmoon, Marlboroza,vod, LoyceV and The Pharmacist. Except this 5 I don't know much other since you was remove and Lutpin is inactive. So basically who don't know me they will never add. I am not expecting I will be on DT next month Lol..

Always glad to be of assistance.

Be honest for once suchmoony. Given the ever growing size of the Cult of Lauda, you are not really safe unless you have 10-15 inclusions.

FML this DT1 expansion is eroding my control over my minions, how am I supposed to get to the hollowed-out volcano status?

Actually it's a good point. You're not really safe in DT2 unless you're included by 2-3 DT1 members and not just because you'd want to get into a fight with one of them but also because one of them could get kicked out by Russian rebels or smth.

Fortunately, I have two sponsors.   However, the last time that I had a major disagreement with you was back in 2015, and you ended up helping me change my mind. (ie Bitstone.)

Since you're admittedly not trading then your score isn't going to matter much anyway. Abusive feedback would likely get countered and yes, banishment for the abuser is also a possibility.

Don't hold back because of someone's DT status. There is a bit of a quandary though if that person is your "sponsor" but in this particular case I'm not planning to do anything shady to put you in that situation

Thank you for the guidance. Without mentioning names at this point, there is one particular member that I have in mind. I guess that I better revisit my trust list and do the needed adjustment, since it's clear that if this member is coming to my mind, they have no business being on my list.

It does not put you at a disadvantage when giving out negative ratings, no.

Correct. However, the chances that you will act alone against a DT member that does deserve negative feedback are very slim now. Usually you'd open a thread (if none exists) first to get inform others and get input first.

     I'm a little curious about something. I have not engaged in any transactions using this forum. Therefore, I don't have any positive trust feedback that is trusted and wouldn't expect to have any. However, this zero trust appears to put my effectiveness at a disadvantage. If I find a member, who happens to be on DT1 or DT2, definitely doing something questionable and give them negative feedback, chances are pretty good that I will get retaliatory feedback. My trust score will then be red, and my reputation will be marred. I gather that I should just stand up and do what is right in that case and hope others agree and banish the person from the DT list next month. Correct?

it is very warming to see threads regarding people asking for feedback and guidelines on DT - much more progressive than the old draconian system and "what I say goes" attitude

Hey everybody. If I have a new "fan" sending me PMs, will I be able to ignore them by adding their name on my ignore list?

Never mind, I figured it out.  

For anyone else that wants to know, just select profile; then select personal message option, then just add your new "friend" to the ignore list.

In that case or similar other case, I don't think you should left 3 feedback for each reason on the same date. You can combined all and just write on single comment. No need to send 3 feedback on same date. If the user attempt to scam again after few day or tomorrow then you can leave again. And as
The Pharmacist said try to use reference link especially once you leave negative.

May be you can check my trust feedback and leave them the same trust if you are convinced with the references.

I would suggest not handing out positive feedbacks very liberally when you're on DT2.  That's something I learned, because by doing so you're going to be turning that member's trust green and you don't want to do that unless you're sure that person isn't going to use the trust to scam someone or otherwise misuse it.  That's something all of us know happens here, especially with all the account sales going on.

Other than that, just try to use good judgement when leaving any feedback, and be prepared for a barrage of PMs when you tag anyone.  Try to be thick-skinned if you aren't already, and don't misuse your position.  Those are the best words of advice I can think of for you or any of the new DT members.  

These are some crazy-ass changes, but I think they'll work out eventually.

I would just shrug shit like that off, because it's going to happen.  Also, leave reference links to your feedbacks as much as you can--without a valid reference link (or explanation in the feedback itself), the feedback is kind of iffy.

No, but you could compile it into 1 or 2 ratings in total. There's no need to bloat it like that when the actions occured in a very short time span.

I recently ended up sending 2 neg and 1 neutral trust comment for this person.
Andrey123

Am I being a little over the top? Please advise.

Although I have suggested above before final implementation of DT1 list, I will bother again to Since I am on DT1 list and you are on my list also. To be honest my vote was for you also, and I was expecting you will become DT1, that was the reason I have added you on my list. Personally I believe that you are fair enough regarding judgement since you are one of merit source. And you know the current situation of forum. You can use your experience where you have to tag and where you have to leave positive feedback. In case you are much confuse on any case then you are free to open thread on Reputation to asked opinions of other DT members. Like LoyceV did sometimes. Feel free to PM me if you need any help, I will try my best as much as possible.  

Don't worry, I believe you will not abuse DT power. And who know what will change on next month. May be your both DT1 will remove from DT1 list   . Hope I will see you on DT1 by the next month.

3, assuming that no other members include you.

Correct.

OK, this is probably a dumb question. I currently have 2 DT1 members who have trusted me. How many other DT1 would need to distrust me in order to be kicked out of DT2, completely? I think the answer is 3, but I'm uncertain. I also realize that I'm excluded if both of the DT1 members are excluded by more peers than included. Correct? (Naturally, I'm out if both of the DT1 members remove me from the list.)