Topic: Just learned that I am now a DT2 member. Please advise - page 2. (Read 597 times)

I have left 1,845 negative trust ratings for profiles I am not personally involved with.

You don't need to be scammed to recognize a scammer.

I don't know how it works out before but I have seen Blazed hand out positive trust not because they have done a transaction between each other but solely because of their reputation as a scam buster. They have received trust not based on their transaction but I think its the same thing to members having a good record for positive and successful transactions.
 
mexxer-2's positive feedback from Blazed

hilariousandco's positive feedback from Blazed

So I guessed back then its safe to hand out positive trust to people who have been known doing good work to the community or at least known in the community on his successful deals even without you dealing with him directly. Its surely a way to hand out your appreciation on what he is doing in the forum.

     The reason that I didn't respond to your original post is that your theory on why I have been added to some people's trusts lists is likely not true. If you click on my trust, you will discover that my trust feedbacks are quite limited at this point and even more limited a few days ago. (Like I think that I had two trust feedbacks.) My selection likely had more to do with my regular post history and possibly my conduct as a merit source. Whatever the reasons, I am greatful for the opportunity to help bitcointalk become an even better platform with my small contributions.
     Furthermore, the purpose of this thread is not to discuss my worthiness as a new DT2 member. I'm just wanting to get some advise from the veterans. Also, since there are now 50 DT1 members, I suspect there are now many new DT2 trust members that can benefit from asking questions and getting advise as well.

In some cases, it's appropriate to leave positive trust without a transaction, just like there are cases in which a transaction doesn't justify positive trust.
I actually did this recently, see my Sent feedback:
I had been planning this feedback for a few months, since I first saw his games. This gave me time to reconsider (which I didn't), so after observing him pay the prize twice, I left positive feedback.

However: I think leaving positive trust to "balance" your "negative Nancy" is not the right reason. Considering the number of accounts on this forum, it's very easy to find more scammers than trusted users.

You've already left Reference links with your trusts, I can only encourage you to keep doing that. It's a bit more work, and gives your feedback more meaning.

Just a thought: I now use my alt account for transactions that don't justify DT-feedback.
You may be interested in read LoyceV's reputation thread for more discussion on the subject.

It hurts when you are the only one don't get any response from thread creator.

Congrats.... and welcome on DT network.
First I want say you have to more careful about your positive feedback rather than negative feedback. Positive feedback could misuse. I don't see any poin, why you should bother to leave feedback if you are not involved with any transaction or you are not on risk. You can leave your positive feedback who is really touted to you. For example, if you want to leave positive feedback to theymos then there no need made any transaction. Because you trust him personally. Its different case. Same like you can trust LoyceV or suchmoon for any reason. Its fine to leave them positive feedback. But just repaid for loan and you are not involved with it should not leave positive feedback. But if you are lender and if really you think borrower is trusted then you can leave positive feedback. Like you can see my feedback, Darkstar was on risk of 0.03BTC with me due to drop collateral price. But I returned his loan as well. Hope you understand about it. (It's all my opinion only, may be other DT will not agree with it).

Regarding negative feedback you can follow old DT members who are handling scam/abuse. No one forcing you leave negative or positive feedback. I was leaving feedback even I wasn't on DT.

In my opinion you have to investigate and use reference for negative feedback. Just don't tag if someone made scam post.

Doesn't matter who are laughing, I have read that thread and replied as well and that's why I follow The Pharmacist quote.

Yes, I already left neutral trust on the alleged bought/stolen account mentioned in this thread. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49220607 I do believe that people should be given a heads up, but the person launching the complaint doesn't exactly have a pristine reputation and the supporting evidence was less than lackluster.

Good job. It's nice to see the trust network expand. You already seem to be doing fine by taking it seriously and welcoming feedback.


The only advice I'd say is not all feedback needs to be positive or negative. You can leave neutral, it still shows up under trusted feedback just doesn't do anything to the trust score. It a good way to get your point across about the user, that you don't feel necessarily warrant a green or red trust score.

I was thinking that it would be nice to give positive feedback for people who pay back their loans. However, I read the sticky about the confidence game, so I'll just leave it alone.


I hope that membership in this cult does not bring about the expectation of being invited over for dinner. A cat just can't be trusted around my two guinea pigs. I don't want any misunderstanding that coy is on the menu.



OK, I'll just do what I think is right. I'm grateful for the opportunity to help out the community the best way that I can.  


Thanks for pointing this out. I may not go out and start writing glowing reviews to my favorite bticointalk users at this time. However, if the mood strikes me, I may in the future.

What I had understand about DT2 member is,the persons who are trusted by the DT1 members based on your trust ratings given earlier.SO if you are on DT2 means you already giving valid feedback to the other people,so just keep what you are doing no need for any new effort.

Just my 2 cents.

Yes, in my opinion.
You can give positive feedback to someone without any need for their to be any related trade at all..
Look at The Pharmacist's positive feedback from DT.. Whole bunch of them with no trades..

I also think that just because you are on DT does not mean that you have to tag every scam you see, or any. Don't feel pressured to leave any feedback that you don't want to..

How does that transaction make you trust the person? Perhaps if you had an example it would be easier to advise.

Generally speaking though - there is no need for affirmative action here. There is no positive (or negative) quota so whatever you feel needs to be conveyed to the community as (un)trustworthy - that's what you do. If that makes you a negative Nancy then it's more a reflection of the shitty state of this forum than your personal character.

Why would you give a feedback to a user who you didn't have a transaction with?

Unless and until the person scammed, or did questionable things that might warrant a negative, you don't really have to give feedback to any said user.

Congratulations on making on DT2, nae the Cult of Laura. Fwiw, you don't need to have any P2P interactions on this forum to give out trust, so long as you have the right mindset and be a nice bitch to Laura and follow her orders, you'll do just fine.

 I just discovered that I am a new DT2 member. As one can tell from viewing my trust page, I'm not very experienced in giving out trust comments. Any pointers from experienced DT members would be helpful. With the recent changes to how default trust members are selected, many more may find themselves in my position, and could use the tips.

   For my first question, is it cool to give positive trust for transactions that I am not personally involved in? I don't want to come off as being a strictly negative Nancy. Quite frankly, I haven't engaged in any P2P on this forum since I am not a very trusting person.





Edit: In case anyone needs clarification on my self moderation of this thread. Here are the general rules.
1) If you wish to discuss the merits of the new way DT1 members are selected, please use one of the several threads already opened in meta.
2) If you wish to appeal any feedback that I may have given to your own account, it's probably best to open a new thread. We may discuss it here since getting constructive criticism is part of the learning process; however, if I take your critique and basically tell you to go fly a kite, it may be best for you to "take it outside."
3) If you wish to discuss my worthiness of being on dt2 or anyone's worthiness of being a default trust member, please open your own thread.
4) If you want to ask your own questions on how to give good trust feedback, please go right ahead. This doesn't have to be all about me. Unsolicited advise is also welcome. I certainly can't be expected to come up with all the good questions and answers.