Topic: Just some Busting (Read 2288 times)

Basically, BestChange has excluded them from their campaign. However, it is believed that these two accounts are currently managed by two different users, so no negative feedback was given. Meaning that they are allowed to act like any other user on this forum, they are free to participate in signature campaigns, as long as the administrator accepts them. In this case, Hhampuz chose them  believe it or not, they are still good posters. Maybe it's one person, maybe it's two persons, who knows 

Damn, I still can't understand how these both accounts end up being in the same Signature campaigns. 1st they were in Best Exchange, now it's Freebitcoin managed by Hhampuz.

This is the valid policy on handling account sales, especially when deception is used (as it the case here): https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52934928. Flags created soonTM.

I think this is a great decision, which makes sense in this case. In fact, these two accounts were created by the same person and are participating in your campaign. Therefore, you have full discretion over these two accounts in your campaign. Best of all, you are ready to pay them last week's pay   Great work! I appreciate your decision   I thought someone would remove both of these accounts from the campaign without any payments for this week

We would like to thank rhomelmabini for his work.

The accounts Debonaire217 and plvbob0070 are indeed participating in our Signature campaign. On the grounds of provided information we decided to remove the both accounts from our Signature campaign. At the same time, given the explanations Debonaire217 and plvbob0070 shared here, we can see that the both accounts were created by one person, however, we cannot allege that they are currently managed by one person. There is simply not enough proof for that. Therefore, we decided to pay them for the last week 6 of the Signature campaign.

Lemme rephrase that, I didn't say that you commited crimes, my point here is that to give the users some time to defend themselves since they were accused of ban evading... I'm also not against to your existence here besides I have known the account for almost a year now. I apologize if that's what it meant to you but honestly I do believe that the users in my Telegram Group is not going into shady businesses.

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I just simply do not want to feel sorry/bad on those accounts also I don't want to feel any regret on helping those accounts. A lit of time was consumed, I even talked to these guys inside and outside of this forum so I really don't think that they will have such crimes such as this, there might be issues yes but as i said before let them defend themselves for I know there's a good reason behind all these.

He's right, but the evidence is not compelling enough, he was just wrong to post it here, I checked and found that these two addresses often send tokens to the same address. This proves it is owned by the same person. I will find more accounts and soon create an thread there  

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Guy please visit this article to see proof 
archived my topic

I understand the need to expose Alt accounts but how is this connected to the OP?
I advise you to post such information in the thread of Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2020 Q1) or just create a new topic like this one and also state what forum rule the connected alts have broken

Okay, let me explain what @cabalism13 said.

TBH, I never arguing here in reputation even in meta because I dont want to involved dramas that moreover other criticized people when we talked connected accounts. Some of them did not believe of what you have said.

TBH, way back then Bitcointalk was introduced to my eldest brother that is jhongzjhong account. We know that joining and giving merits to each other was a forum offense and we never do that even though I have some post that must deserve to be merited. I know what is the rule of the forum that why I always abide on it to avoid problems in the future. And I told him that doesn't cross any signature that I joined because they will think you are my alt and even in previous accusation I never make dependable on my side because I know that we dont have anything wrong and alt account is okay as long as you are not abusing forum(that is a crime). And I think @cabalism was wrong of saying committing crimes. Now, he got a job and having a family he totally leaves on this forum

Now, let's proceed to the second one. BTCeminjas, that account was created by my elder sister(I'm the youngest sibling among them) and that was stated to me before in meta.

Now, our mistakes are we used the same wallet before because since we are newbies we dont know that using the same Bitcoin address will result like this. And due to the laziness of my eldest sister, I dont know what is the reason for banning as far as I remember she said she used google as a reference of posting. But I know we are not committing crimes of joining the same signature or joining the same bounties.

Yeah, I know those who are reading this will not believe because I saw most cases like this and that is why I did not give my feedback before as long as I'm not abusing the forum. And besides, I'm more active on local. I don't know this OP barking me this old issue that only mods will make an action not by giving feedback as cabal did.

Now, everyone read my opinion and I respect what mods taking action about this. They had a right to investigate my case and do what is right. Even though I'm not so useful in the forum but I contribute and keep active as much as I can even I have work in real life. It might this is my last post or whatever mod decision is at least I'm honest in this forum and there's no CRIME happen. (hacking, running money or even trolling) I'm trying a good member of this forum.

But I really appreciate if there is forgiveness I can continue my journey here and keep helping those who wanted my help.


To OP, I respect what you are the purpose of posting this. Just continue busting alt accounts that abuse on the forum. That is the real toxic here.

Thank you so much I will not respond to this thread anymore.

A good member of this forum,
-sheenshane-

True.
And yeah before I leave something I need to hear a thing from that user besides he's one of the users in my trust list. Let us give the user some time to explain himself just like what the 2 users did.
If the ban was made for a serious crime back then,... then I must say I will do what I must but as of now I will stick to that fact and just leave a neutral instead.
We simply cannot just look into the one side, besides it is not us who will decide whether the user stays or not.
As I'm always saying, I do not tolerate crimes that harms the forum.

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I simply wanted to tell you that you should ask yourself the one I quoted above.
Simply being a dick and just lurking around just to shit on some shits. Bring your profile here then somebody might consider your shits.

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It seems there is someone who is triggered and wanted to fight back with shits. Knock it off for you alts, whatever your posts is, it really doesn't help with the situation. Shitty biased feedbacks are really out of the line, sk I really suggest to stay out of it

You're off-topic here mate and I'll report it, you may post it in here Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2020 Q1) as well as your started topic on the Meta board as it was a wrong board to post that kind of topic.

I wouldn't bite linking accounts over crypto transactions since it is vague. For example, maybe A just ask to handle the token to B because it's just a few and it will cost him more gas if ever he'll do it on his end so instead of transacting it over to exchanges (I have a hunch that's the case here as I've seen the transaction are only done once) A ask B to do the task. Moreover, that isn't impossible as both of them are from same local I'll never be surprised if they are acquintance because of this forum or they really know each other.

As to the second case, I may take a look at it but to get more evidence you need to dig deeper behind it, the possibility is there but just having that isn't of hard evidence to present.

I give it back to you.  You definitely need it more. You plan to be legendary. I have no issues with anyone but I'm for what is right. Do you think you did the right thing?

Merited you for posting 3 liner post for the 2nd time. Keep up.

I don't really know why you keep on pushing your thing. I have been thinking about this issue starting yesterday and I couldn't keep on worrying since I don't want my account to be destroyed. I've already explained my side, if that isn't enough for many aside from you, I am willing to expose part of my security which is my IP address used and ask my suspected alt Plvbob0 to post his as well. I hope we shouldn't reach that far.

You show disgust who post alts right.  Would you not be disgusted if I use it to join signature with my primary account?

It's funny how alt accounts are being used to continue to insists on putting negative trust to those who have been accused here. Why not post here using your main account and speak for yourself. Some accused members have already state their reason. So there's no reason to put fire with the issue. There are some cases that need to be consider before making some judgement and I can see why some DTs not doing so.

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I have some monero coins dont disgrace their name here.

I remember cheezcarls last month where he brag about him ranking up with merits and then saying sorry for spamming and then caught providing services to plagiarize contents. awwwh he got morals alright!  He contributed in the forum but it didn't stop him from getting banned.

So are we going to let this slide because they did contribute and 2 alt accounts enrolled in a signature campaign violation is nothing?

Thanks for that. Well, they can really defend it and even moderators can balance the situations since they contributed things here in the forum, but rules are rules and we have to abide it, even notable users can't escape that fact. Even if I haven't opened it there will be users that will do, the thing if other users will find it and their opinions never heard that will be the worst-case scenario. This thread will never be locked up, it might be if all are done, I challenged them to step on the limelight and clear if this isn't right.

Mate, don't pull that negative trust thing that is out of the question.

Just want to correct this statement, that isn't the sole purpose DT has been made for there is more to it than that.

Ban evasion doesn't need negative feedback. Report this to moderator and they will ban him. DT or MS has nothing to do here. DT are for tagging scammer and likely to be scammers.

So as a DT and Merit source of the Local board, what can you say about the case of ban evasion with sheenshane? Do you still need to hear his side? Or you just don’t want to give negative trust?

Well, I'm still the admin and creatir of that group, it is an open community. It's not that I will randomly ban anyone without further investigating on what happened. I just needed to know the reasons.

But as you have made already a decision and left, there's nothing I can do about it. As for the issues, well you do have a point but as of now lets just hear their side and let them defend themselves...after all, they have already contributed many things on our local.