Topic: Just some Busting - page 2. (Read 2253 times)

Nope it wasn't, it was on the very last post of plvbov0070 https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/plvbob0070-2449551

When I am looking at an account I really start at the very end of their posts and just at one look, you'll see it. They explain themselves and I think that will do it and I guess a neutral tag will be applicable to observe them or simply observe them.

Thanks for making it clear. I was wondering if there's another evidence linking both accounts aside from telegram since this is the second time that's why I brought it up. If none, my curious mind tells me that OP found out the connection during the competition.

Thanks for the input YOSHIE and cabalism13 I really appreciate it and especially your dedication in our local board, I really respect it. I'm just glad they explain themselves.


Yeah, I know but even though that's an old issue the truth will always prevail as I said yesterday this isn't the first time I take into account of busting a ban evader or something similar, those aren't an issue those are truth they need to face and I ask them one more time to prove their innocence in this thread, if not I'll still respect it. If there could be a reason behind it I think I use to do this and it's somehow they broke a rule and I've seen it.


I have no grudge on them, you can ask them if there is. Well, I left because I don't want to mark myself as a person who likes eavesdropping there's even one user there that asked you to ban me, so without further ado, I left on my own accord. Rules are rules and I think they know that. Why I did this? I think I am doing this stuff way back, nothing else.

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Okay, let's take a look how sheenshane handle a ban evasion case.

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When it comes to ban evasion, DTs can't really do anything. It's more of a moderators' thing to choose whether to ban them or not.

Thanks for the effort. I appreciate that. You can see based on what you have given that we're not linked to the same addresses it's because this account is not his alt.


I know that it's really unacceptable to cheat in the forum especially that I have also earned a small amount of your trust but I'm not guilty of the accusation because I know I'm not violating any rules here in the forum. I'm just trying to do my best here. I'm working hard to give quality posts and I just want to clear my name with this issue.

Alright, we got too much drama from plv and devonaire now I want to hear the side of Sheenshane since that’s a clearly ban evansion? Let’s just support what is right here and let them justify themselves, DT’s will decide.

Thanks for this things @YOSHIE, I simply do not wang to get biased here but I didn't see this coming, just had some transactions with plvbob0 and I really didn't think that he was an alt of someone.
Just for everybody's peace of mind, such cheating will never be tolerated. I WILL NOT TOLERATE ANYTHING THAT IS HARMFUL TO THE FORUM.
It's a good thing this has been brought to the public and from what I see, Debonaire and Plvbob0 is already out of the hot seat. Even though it was really a bad move...


To All of the USERS on PILIPINAS Section:
If I were you, make a post were you will state your alts or any connected accounts to your main. So if something like this will happen again you are safe.

(Also to other Good Merit Earners: Please avoid ang shady things I simply do not want to feel bad for myself)

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@OP, you're quite good enough as far as I can tell, but I think digging an old issues will not get you in to something. I simply do not defend them but knowing them it's not that they've been doing something wrong. Aside from ban evading - from that we might not also know if there's a reason behind it.

Do you somewhat hold a grudge on them? You were once on my GC on telegram and then you just left is it because of this post? And doesn't to be questioned about why you did this? - just wanted your explanation though.

There must be a lot more than these busted accounts. Damn. He took away the opportunities of others who honestly wanted to join the campaign but his alts took it.

I do not want to be involved in this problem, the first problem has been resolved and Debonaire217 has changed referring to the initial topic and has acknowledged it, and not repeated the mistake.

I think he realized the advice of the people here.



Greed can self-destruct.

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It seems that for some other evidence it seems better, to prove that @ Debonaire217 is Alt @plvbobo, but I have not found it to make @Debonaire217 a suspect of fraud.

If I judge on what he says.


@rhomelmabini.
There are some things that can be taken, from the words @ Debonaire217, so I want to see the transactions and bpip they use.

I don't want to say that @Debonaire217 and @plvbobo, Alt or not.
Now talking about the btc and bpip addresses that both of them use.

At least btc in @Debonaire217 wallet, can point to @plvbobo wallet and vice versa, but in reality it's different.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53593643

Btc sent by: @Debonaire217 does not lead to @plvbobo recipient.

2. Tx: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/070747ecafac7d92bf2ab6f2ab45149ad39f96317934e236f8de18a8dd24a72c



The password has not changed:
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Debonaire217

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So the decision in the matter of both of them is Alt or not, cheating or not, give some of your opinions here in the assessment, of course, that makes sense and can be accounted for.

Note;
If there is other evidence, the stronger they point to the Alt who is having an affair, post here, maybe some DT will make a decision.

What I didn't get is why you gave him your alt account in first place? Why didn't you encourage him to create a new account?
At least you could leave each other a neutral feedback explaining the relation between you.
I don't see how giving your account to your friend could be different from selling it!

Suspected accounts - Yes - but the work I've submitted there is original themed, bitcointalk coldkey card.

Up to now, we're still suspected alt account despite of us doing our best on our own to create topics.

Here's my point of view:

Since I know plvbobo in person very well, I very much appreciated if he's creating good posts so I prioritze to give him my smerits. That is, to encourage him to posts better much more.

I don't think the idea of a merit abuse is there, because for me, giving merits just to someone posting one liner post multiple times is more likely to be considered abuse. But the fact that I gave him merits for good posts even if it goes above a hundred times for me is still considerable.

I know you also experienced how hard it is to achieve a higher rank, and I've achieved that from the time that I became sincere here using this account Debonaire217.

- correction, I didn't get disqualified from the coldkey competition, My work just didn't made it to the top 10

Merited you for the effort. I also doubt that you did this for merits.

Isn't this the second time that debonaire and plvb were suspected to be alt accounts? If I remember correctly, those two accounts were disqualified in a competition related to the bitcointalk 10th anniversary. I'm not sure if that was the coldkey. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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This may be not related to the thread but I just want to say that OP already mentioned doing something like this in our local board.

His recent report could also be related to these posts:

They are not still excused because they are still on the hot seat and those statements above from them do not explain the credibility of the accounts that it changes hand, it isn't cool to see that they'll just admit it this time after they've been caught.

Bestchange is out of the case, so I think we must not include bestchange on the issue. Yes some tagged are all from Bestchange signature participants but its quite rude to suggest these Bestchange Campaign abuse and Signature campaign abuse.

Sound's credible to me but of course this will depend on DTs decision. I see how @plvbob0070 and @Debonaire217 work on their rank up and many have noticed that they are good poster not just on our local thread but also outside this section. I think many will testify here even DTs.

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I'm not a DT member and my words here wouldnt mean anything I just say what I observed on those two accounts Ive mentioned on what Ive noticed and saw during those time they are actively posting and sharing here in forum. DTs should check out and have vivid investigastion before laying such punishment.

This how DTs think and writes well. Not just waiting for other DTs to tag those who has been reported in this post and put tagged once there someone started. That's lame.

I have to read a little bit more, seems the Debonaire217 was kind of pardoned last year, so if there is no crossing of the word he gave that time, see no reason to ruin him yet.
Don't get me wrong, i don't like all these greedy cheaters out there, trying to farm accounts and only thing they post are one-liners, on the other side I hate to destroy accounts. This guy - Debonaire217 seems to have post some good stuff, really like the Art - bitcoin house thing (I didn't see myself in the house.. WTH! /jk) so as I said, we are not the inquisition here, but every case needs its own research.

So do you want to leave negative trust? Everything here is bad except that these two accounts are quite positive and receive a lot of merit  But I think this is just a small case in this forum, I believe there are still so many people like that in this forum. As long as the user is experienced enough to use the information privately, they will not be detected, in this case, something too old can sometimes harm them 

Damn, the first two accounts I actually have merited some posts,there were some damn good posts. Sometimes you see some good users, they turn out to be abusing the forum.
It's a pity to see this happening again, I though people have learned their lesson already.

You got a merit, even that you didn't want one.

Great!!!!!!!!!!   The explanation is good and convincing, then, you hope that nothing happens? If this is the case, maybe I should buy some bitcointalk account with hero member ranking, then later, I give it to my friend, give it to my family, we write together, working together and participating in a signature campaign to make money   or I can use them all, work hard with 5 accounts and make about $ 200 a week, and anytime I was got found out, I'll ask my friends to use them to testify, sounds great  

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Anyone can create a challenging topic like you, which is not enough to say anything

I want to brought this topic up from way back before. link

I've already accepted all my mistakes on here from before when I don't have any merits at all because I use multiple accounts but this time, I couldn't accept the blame. I've experienced how hard it is to rank up from this forum and I know how bad it is to use multiple accounts. I've changed from the moment that I've earned a single merit from what I've stated from the link.  

What I can say, I only use this account, and not plvbobo that is one my account before that I've decided to give to my friend. All his merit is because of his own hardwork.

I am aware of the rules from the time that I take this forum seriously, There's no rules that prohibit someone to give account to someone who really wants to be part of the forum.

You can check previous posts of both of our accounts.

Lastly, For me, It is really hard to accept this blame if you really did your best to contribute to the forum.

Someone please track our IP's, please tell them we're not the same person .I don't want to lose my hardwork/account Debonaire217.

That's what I noted on the very top of it because even if I haven't seen it or dig for it for sure there will be anyone that will do. I challenge those who have been reported to go on the limelight and explain themselves this is a matter of reputation not to persecute them. This isn't about hate, jealousy (what I am to be jealous with?) and merit whoring because I can live without it, that isn't the one that processes my metabolism.

Glad to have you explained it @plvbob0070 still there's doubt especially if you look at the connection I've made from the bottom. Other DTs will take a look at the situation. Thanks for your explanation.