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Topic: Just woke up and BTC is OVER $134!!?? (Read 5724 times)

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DigiByte Founder
April 03, 2013, 11:09:28 AM
#72
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This is ridiculous.
theymos, my friend: two words, media coverage.
Bitcoin's in the news.
Cyprus' in the news.
People put two and two together: Hm. Their money's just been stolen. Hm. With Bitcoin, that can't happen. *must buy bitcoin*
My dad finally caved and during easter dinner came over and handed me $1500 in cash and said "Here, I don't trust the banks anymore, buy me some BTC." I said ok, then started a Dwolla -> Gox transfer that wont clear until tomorrow. He has probably called me 5 times in the last two days. He just called complaining about how much he has lost by waiting for the transfer to occur. I said dad "This is only the beginning." lol

Just tell him how much he has lost since he hesitated in the first place Smiley
I know right, I tried to convince him to put a grand in back at $20. I think for him it was that he "Heard about Bitcoin on Glenn Beck on Friday."..... so that somehow makes Bitcoin legit now? Lol Damn backwoods conservatives anyway Wink haha
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DigiByte Founder
April 03, 2013, 11:05:30 AM
#71
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This is ridiculous.
theymos, my friend: two words, media coverage.
Bitcoin's in the news.
Cyprus' in the news.
People put two and two together: Hm. Their money's just been stolen. Hm. With Bitcoin, that can't happen. *must buy bitcoin*
My dad finally caved and during easter dinner came over and handed me $1500 in cash and said "Here, I don't trust the banks anymore, buy me some BTC." I said ok, then started a Dwolla -> Gox transfer that wont clear until tomorrow. He has probably called me 5 times in the last two days. He just called complaining about how much he has lost by waiting for the transfer to occur. I said dad "This is only the beginning." lol
legendary
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April 03, 2013, 11:03:17 AM
#70
Hm. Their money's just been stolen. Hm. With Bitcoin, that can't happen. *must buy bitcoin*
Then they leave their bitcoins sitting in an exchange or an online wallet.
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Doesn't use these forums that often.
April 03, 2013, 11:02:26 AM
#69
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This is ridiculous.
theymos, my friend: two words, media coverage.
Bitcoin's in the news.
Cyprus' in the news.
People put two and two together: Hm. Their money's just been stolen. Hm. With Bitcoin, that can't happen. *must buy bitcoin*
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Doesn't use these forums that often.
April 03, 2013, 11:00:36 AM
#68
i just went from  broke to poor  all in the same day, if it rises anymore  i can eat at in n out  instead of mcdonalds.

I like this, and therefore I like you. If you had an address I would tip you.

Oh! Oh! (puts hand up) 1whiskD55W4mRtyFYe92bN4jbsBh1sZut!
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April 03, 2013, 08:36:36 AM
#67
if  aaple AAPL can be worth over $433
price line PCLN $706
google GGOL $811

bitcoin is at least worth $500 and not even close to a bubble. There is no derivative market for bitcoins, price discovery should be alot higher imo maybe at least $1000.
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April 03, 2013, 08:29:13 AM
#66
you dont understand the word growth my friend

people put their money, enforcing this growth

Thank you for highlighting how utterly uninformed you are.

Yes, people are pumping money into Bitcoin for the simple reason that they hope to cash out at a higher price = speculation.

That is not sustainable, that is basically a Ponzi Pyramid scheme.

The only way Bitcoin can be successful is if there is REAL trade going on. That is, people are buying goods and services with their bitcoins, and unfortunately that market is still relatively small in comparison to the recent price jumps. Yes that market is growing and yes the value of Bitcoins is going to grow, just not at this ridiculous rate.

I don't think that's necessarily the case for everyone.  I think a lot of people saw what happened in Cyprus where people's money just suddenly disappeared.  That and the crap that happened here in the US in 2008 where again, people's money and savings just vanished overnight.  The lack of confidence in the banks, and the seemingly interesting concept of bitcoin has folks transferring money over, for whatever reason.  Savings?  Use for purchases?  Speculation?  I think it's all three. 
b!z
legendary
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April 03, 2013, 07:41:41 AM
#65
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This is ridiculous.

$1000 by the end of the month wouldn't be ridiculous.
hero member
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April 03, 2013, 07:39:23 AM
#64
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This is ridiculous.

Uh oh, even Theymos can't believe it.  Cheesy
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April 03, 2013, 07:38:25 AM
#63
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This is ridiculous.
b!z
legendary
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April 03, 2013, 07:31:42 AM
#62
It's not a bubble, it's a correction  Roll Eyes
legendary
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Bitcoin
April 03, 2013, 07:12:30 AM
#61
Bitcoin is the new future money of the REAL WORLD but you are just too blind to see it

It may well be, that doesn't explain why the price has gone from $10-$130 in a few months. That sort of growth is clearly speculative and therefore unsustainable and at some point there will be a correction.

You can believe in the future of bitcoin without sticking your head in the sand, which unfortunately seems to be the standard response for many people here.

If bitcoin is going to grow and be successful it will have to be based upon actual value and real growth, not simply speculation.

I read the same when BTC were at 13, 30, 50, 75, 90.. peoples will still tell this kind of message at 130, 200, 300, 500.. there is always someone for, and someone against, in everything, everywhere..
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April 03, 2013, 06:52:23 AM
#60
+ Silk Road, +Avalon, +Namecheap, +Mega, ...

^^^ Kids, this is pure speculation and NO REAL trade is going on, mmm-kay?

I didn't say there wasn't any real trade. I said the increase in the price of bitcoin is way beyond the growth of goods/services, which tells me that the current price is due to speculation and is not therefore not representative of the actual value.

We are seeing 50% fluctuation in a single day, it was around $103~ earlier and went up to $147~. And a few months ago it was under $15. This is not real growth.

My feeling is that most of the people on these forums are extremely mis-informed and are simply spreading the same old bullshit around. Remember, the people telling the stories have the most to gain. It's like a pump and dump salesman who tells you the value is going to shoot through the roof tomorrow so you have to buy today.... It's a self fulfilling prophecy until the penny drops and people start to sell.
Sorry if I sounded crude to you, for a moment I was thinking that you mistakenly changed BTC for LTC Smiley

And of course this is massive speculation and will be in the comming years as the newbies are comming in. If all the future users jump in it would be one-time correction up  Cheesy
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April 03, 2013, 06:28:48 AM
#59
+ Silk Road, +Avalon, +Namecheap, +Mega, ...

^^^ Kids, this is pure speculation and NO REAL trade is going on, mmm-kay?

I didn't say there wasn't any real trade. I said the increase in the price of bitcoin is way beyond the growth of goods/services, which tells me that the current price is due to speculation and is not therefore not representative of the actual value.

We are seeing 50% fluctuation in a single day, it was around $103~ earlier and went up to $147~. And a few months ago it was under $15. This is not real growth.

My feeling is that most of the people on these forums are extremely mis-informed and are simply spreading the same old bullshit around. Remember, the people telling the stories have the most to gain. It's like a pump and dump salesman who tells you the value is going to shoot through the roof tomorrow so you have to buy today.... It's a self fulfilling prophecy until the penny drops and people start to sell.

I'm not saying that it's without risks to invest money in BTC. however, everything carries the same kind of risks. What makes it different, that the protocol brings so much to this world, you should try and comprehend it.

That is the most important factor and it's worth way more than 140$/BTC.

Nobody tells you to buy, or in other words no one should have an effect on your decisions. If you don't have use for BTC then don't buy it, that's all. Also, if you cannot bear the price movements then sell. There'll be people who will buy them from you. ;-)


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Hello!
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DigiByte Founder
April 03, 2013, 06:12:23 AM
#57
i just went from  broke to poor  all in the same day, if it rises anymore  i can eat at in n out  instead of mcdonalds.
Lol +1
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April 03, 2013, 06:01:42 AM
#56
+ Silk Road, +Avalon, +Namecheap, +Mega, ...

^^^ Kids, this is pure speculation and NO REAL trade is going on, mmm-kay?

I didn't say there wasn't any real trade. I said the increase in the price of bitcoin is way beyond the growth of goods/services, which tells me that the current price is due to speculation and is not therefore not representative of the actual value.

We are seeing 50% fluctuation in a single day, it was around $103~ earlier and went up to $147~. And a few months ago it was under $15. This is not real growth.

My feeling is that most of the people on these forums are extremely mis-informed and are simply spreading the same old bullshit around. Remember, the people telling the stories have the most to gain. It's like a pump and dump salesman who tells you the value is going to shoot through the roof tomorrow so you have to buy today.... It's a self fulfilling prophecy until the penny drops and people start to sell.
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April 03, 2013, 05:43:11 AM
#55
Maybe its both factors, maybe reason for the levels of speculation is based on more people discovering it, resulting in people who have followed it for years believing that we are likely at the point where its going to spread exponentially faster and quickly becoming widely used. If they are right then its going keep increasing.

I can only see the media coverage increasing in the future right now.

On the 22nd March there was an article headline that was featured with a picture prominently on the Guardian newspaper's website --

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/22/silk-road-online-drug-marketplace


'' As of January 2012 it is the second most popular UK newspaper website, behind the Daily Mail's Mail Online, with a daily average of 2,937,070 browsers to the Mail's 4,838,140,[119] and in April 2011 MediaWeek reported that it is the fifth most popular newspaper site in the world.[120]''

Roughly 3 million people who went to the site that day

Could not miss the article, headlined ''
Silk Road: the online drug marketplace that officials seem powerless to stop''

''Authorities around the world know about the website, but closing it is another matter – partly because it uses Bitcoins''

That day I would estimate maybe 85% of people who saw it had not known about silk road and could order from it almost as easy as shopping on amazon, and a small percentage of them but a significant number when it has such a huge audience of 3 million people will want to get bitcoins, because of its unique fundamentals of anonymity and the number of interesting things that people only accept bitcoins for.

 if its true that you can send through western union and receive bitcoins soon its accessibility and uses increases a lot, and will attract more people.

It can be used very easily to evade tax and that will surely keep attracting new users as offshore banking continues to increase its ease of access due to tighter laws on banks that have grown steadily.

But of course at the same time I'm sure there are things that could happen that could destroy it that are impossible to predict.

After Cyprus people are waking up to the harsh dangerous precedent that has been set - banks in the EU now have the power to take money that one expects to be guarded, without warning, its simple theft and every expert I've spoken to about the future of the Euro think that it is certain the Euro crisis will lead to the southern states of spain and italy going past the point of no return with their debt and collapse, splitting them from the EU and crashing Fiat currency. Its only a matter of time but it looks unavoidable.

People are waking to the fact since the financial crisis normal currency has its own structural problems that mean it inst completely safe either and can be devalued by actions taken by governments.

Also in 2008 the world was reminded that for the past hundred years or more severe economic depressions have repeatedly occurred, and have usually been caused by events and causes that absolutely no one predicted, I haven't seen any real changes that make me believe it won't happen again.

In the west taxes are far beyond levels that help economies, they are so high they cause investment in the private sector to be cut, I think stagnation of growth will last until Europe particularly makes massive changes to its high tax, high state expenditure, high regulation, massive debts and deficits as they are currently.

I think fiat currencies are going to crash and the very large increase in alternatives like gold indicates the markets are reflecting there arent may reasons to expect this problem to improve.

Bitcoins finite coin amount protects it from the problems and has the chance of becoming a realistic safe, alternative if things get worse. If the chance of bitcoins ending up a highly trusted, common way of storing capital, is only 3.5./%, but the 1000's of percent it would increase in value makes it investing as much as you possibly can afford to lose in it as the reward could make you rich,

I think there are lots of fundamental reasons that mean this currency has a chance of
doing this. I'm going to buy as much as I can


Bitcoin is the new future money of the REAL WORLD but you are just too blind to see it

It may well be, that doesn't explain why the price has gone from $10-$130 in a few months. That sort of growth is clearly speculative and therefore unsustainable and at some point there will be a correction.

You can believe in the future of bitcoin without sticking your head in the sand, which unfortunately seems to be the standard response for many people here.

If bitcoin is going to grow and be successful it will have to be based upon actual value and real growth, not simply speculation.
At least someone here knows what they're talking about.
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April 03, 2013, 05:38:58 AM
#54
We hit the irrational exhuberence stage.  Good time to cash in profits and wait for a lower price.

A pullback would be comforting. Btc fundamentally, if hedge funds are starting to pour speculative money in then BTC can go way way higher yet. $1000 easy. Then the man in the street piles in..... upside galore
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April 03, 2013, 05:34:53 AM
#53
you dont understand the word growth my friend

people put their money, enforcing this growth

Thank you for highlighting how utterly uninformed you are.

Yes, people are pumping money into Bitcoin for the simple reason that they hope to cash out at a higher price = speculation.

That is not sustainable, that is basically a Ponzi Pyramid scheme.

The only way Bitcoin can be successful is if there is REAL trade going on. That is, people are buying goods and services with their bitcoins, and unfortunately that market is still relatively small in comparison to the recent price jumps. Yes that market is growing and yes the value of Bitcoins is going to grow, just not at this ridiculous rate.

For me it seems like you are strongly uninformed:
http://bitcoinmagazine.com/bitpay-processes-5-million-in-march-eclipses-silk-road/
http://bitcoinmagazine.com/bitcoinstore-sells-500000-renews-ingram-contract/
+ Silk Road, +Avalon, +Namecheap, +Mega, ...

^^^ Kids, this is pure speculation and NO REAL trade is going on, mmm-kay?
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