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How much did each of those people pay to get there?  Shocked

The comparison isn't really fair though. Riot has thousands of employees and billions of dollars in investor money (and profits). Their esports cost them money but they treat it as a way to advertise the game and build longevity to the brand.


That being said their world championships are always impressive. I know in 2014 they sold out a 45,000 seat auditorium for the finals in Korea and in 2015 there was a viewership of 35 million people.


I'm well aware that people always have the mentality of the "next world of warcraft" or the "next league of legends" but such comparisons are neither realistic nor are they particularity helpful. A better example or goal would be Path of Exile. They are a team of developers who got impatient waiting for a 'real' diablo game (they hated diablo 3 and felt it was too focused on casual gamers) so they started their own company and built the game from the ground up. Their game is very much targeted at niche groups (it's VERY unforgiving to new players and requires a lot of math and theory crafting to be successful) but because they have stuck so closely to their initial goals and done such a great job at building their community, their game is worth many millions of dollars now.

The core idea is very much the same idea as project rebirth. We are developers who truly and un-ironically enjoyed conquer online but feel that the company that owns the IP has managed it in a horrible way and that the core game mechanics can be pushed so much further. We've done a lot with apex and will do even more with heroes to push the game mechanics in new and exciting directions but rebirth is very much the same driving concept as Path of Exile had in regards to Diablo. Take what you like about the genre and do it really, really well. Don't try to make a billion dollar game, try to make something that tens or hundreds of thousands of players will desperately want.


Here is a great couple articles about their approach.
http://www.polygon.com/2014/2/28/5451410/how-is-ethical-free-to-play-path-of-exile-faring
http://venturebeat.com/2013/02/10/path-of-exile-crowdfunding/
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What are the chances that Chris makes a game as popular as LoL? Any pro gamers here care to share your wisdom.
What are the chances that Chris builds a semi decent game that gets some world wide use.
what are the chances that Chris belllyflops and makes the worst game ever.

Id like some realistic possible predictions if anyone has some.



The next league style mmo can be around the corner and this dev could be the one to do it. Of course he probably is not but dont forget that there is lots of room for many new games and for that om sure this dev will do good and make lots of profit.

Just to give people a visual perception of games, if Chris some how makes a S-Tier MMO that can some how also have an established competitive scene, well.... this is what it looks like for League of Legends and this ain't even a world final it's just the NA finals.... plus this picture was taken before the NA finals event started the crowd got bigger after EU finals finished, draw your own conclusions Smiley

https://i.imgur.com/CI1t7gi.jpg

How much did each of those people pay to get there?  Shocked

$30-$60 each, do the math. There's a lot of money in gaming I think this should be obvious to anyone who's taken even a slight look into it.
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What are the chances that Chris makes a game as popular as LoL? Any pro gamers here care to share your wisdom.
What are the chances that Chris builds a semi decent game that gets some world wide use.
what are the chances that Chris belllyflops and makes the worst game ever.

Id like some realistic possible predictions if anyone has some.



The next league style mmo can be around the corner and this dev could be the one to do it. Of course he probably is not but dont forget that there is lots of room for many new games and for that om sure this dev will do good and make lots of profit.

Just to give people a visual perception of games, if Chris some how makes a S-Tier MMO that can some how also have an established competitive scene, well.... this is what it looks like for League of Legends and this ain't even a world final it's just the NA finals.... plus this picture was taken before the NA finals event started the crowd got bigger after EU finals finished, draw your own conclusions Smiley

https://i.imgur.com/CI1t7gi.jpg
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What are the chances that Chris makes a game as popular as LoL? Any pro gamers here care to share your wisdom.
What are the chances that Chris builds a semi decent game that gets some world wide use.
what are the chances that Chris belllyflops and makes the worst game ever.

Id like some realistic possible predictions if anyone has some.

1. If we're being realistic, unlikely. Making a S tier game is EXTREMELY hard to do. Look at a new release like Black Desert or Blade and Soul which in themselves are outstanding games, however they're no where close to the hype of a game like League of Legends or World of Warcraft (in its prime). League of Legends is also a bad example to compare to for the record because RTS games don't require time commitment to progress as in your character doesn't get stronger, but rather you get better at the game. A challenger LoL player could probably take a break for a year and after relearning some of the changes still be able to hold their challenger level game play... in other words they don't get left behind by new content added such as quests, gears, etc like an MMO.

2 / 3. If Chris is a competent developer and can put together a good team, this is very likely. Even if he puts together a fairly mediocre game but can muster an audience of about lets say 1k unique... not on multiple accounts constantly his game will probably make some decent money which would be really good for Jewels. All in all given what I've seen from Apex and what I researched on epvp Chris has been programming for quite some time and has even written guides. This demonstrates to me leadership qualities and I think he'll be able to manage a team quite well. All in all it comes down to the teammates he chooses for his project.

tl;dr I believe in Chris to make a decent game to say the least
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Official Jewels Dev Account.
Updated opening post to contain a link to our Steem account for which updates for Apex, Heroes and Rebirth and other associated projects will be posted to.
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We're now up to 70 BTC with 48 hours to go. Just to post this here, our development updates are also mirrored over on Steem (with better formatting) and you can find it here - https://steemit.com/jewelscoin/@pro4never/development-update-29-8-2016

Check us out @pro4never on Steem for more updates or @JewelsCoin on Twitter.

What will happen if the goal is not reached?
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We're now up to 70 BTC with 48 hours to go. Just to post this here, our development updates are also mirrored over on Steem (with better formatting) and you can find it here - https://steemit.com/jewelscoin/@pro4never/development-update-29-8-2016

Check us out @pro4never on Steem for more updates or @JewelsCoin on Twitter.
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I think there should be escrow for all ICOs.

Yeah most ico's need some escrow but when you have an ico like this is the dev is trusted like Chris then there is no need for the escrow.

Escrows for ico's does nothing but stop the most amateur of amateur. And dev worth have his weight in salt will be able to create a blockchain and wallet to get past any escrow. All an escrow will do is save you from the shittiest of devs and if you fall for one of those scammers you almost deserve to lose your money for being so stupid.
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I think there should be escrow for all ICOs.

Yeah most ico's need some escrow but when you have an ico like this is the dev is trusted like Chris then there is no need for the escrow.
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there is escrow or not?

Why would you use a escrow who may be anonymous and not just trust the dev who is upfront with his identity. Rhetorical question. The answer to you is, no escrow. Either trust the dev or don't.

Well, maybe use one of the escrows others have used for 1000's of BTC projects before on here who's identity is known?

That is not a rhetorical question.




I don't understand the use of the inherent safety people feel when using escrows. It makes no difference unless the escrow is done with a series of goals or benchmarks. For example, complete the following and then X number of bitcoins more are released so you can complete the next goal. Take a project like Waves for example which raised like 30k BTC. All they had to do was launch the network, which they did using an unmodified Scorex Framework which is stated by it's own developer is not meant to be used in a production environment but rather simply for testing. Regardless, because they were able to launch the network, here you go Waves team enjoy your 30k BTC to do whatever the fuck you want with it.

How did that provide any security for the investors? So when people ask "is there an escrow" all I can think is if that's the full length of your question then...  Roll Eyes


You are correct. There should be milestones for release of funds especially in 1000BTC +projects.

However, I guess even a release of a coin is better than nothing. Many devs dont release anything and just run with the funds.



You shouldn't make yourself look stupid and put this in any kind of shitty category your attempting too. If that is what you think, would you like a wager? I will bet you what I have invested here that they don't run with no funds. You know why I am sure? Because I spend hours researching and maybe you should before you post. Anyway find an escrow and I have 2btc to have a friendly wager with you if you like. and you lilbear, infact anyone that cries escrow when they don't have a dime to their name or invested shit. gtfo lol

I understand your frustration but give them a break. They don't want to bet, they just want to up their post count and show us all their pweety signatures. Thanks for looking out for us fellas but we are all grown boys here and we all know how to due diligence and we all feel safe investing in Chris. Check it all out and maybe you won't miss out Wink
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I think there should be escrow for all ICOs.
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there is escrow or not?

Why would you use a escrow who may be anonymous and not just trust the dev who is upfront with his identity. Rhetorical question. The answer to you is, no escrow. Either trust the dev or don't.

Well, maybe use one of the escrows others have used for 1000's of BTC projects before on here who's identity is known?

That is not a rhetorical question.




I don't understand the use of the inherent safety people feel when using escrows. It makes no difference unless the escrow is done with a series of goals or benchmarks. For example, complete the following and then X number of bitcoins more are released so you can complete the next goal. Take a project like Waves for example which raised like 30k BTC. All they had to do was launch the network, which they did using an unmodified Scorex Framework which is stated by it's own developer is not meant to be used in a production environment but rather simply for testing. Regardless, because they were able to launch the network, here you go Waves team enjoy your 30k BTC to do whatever the fuck you want with it.

How did that provide any security for the investors? So when people ask "is there an escrow" all I can think is if that's the full length of your question then...  Roll Eyes


You are correct. There should be milestones for release of funds especially in 1000BTC +projects.

However, I guess even a release of a coin is better than nothing. Many devs dont release anything and just run with the funds.

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there is escrow or not?

Why would you use a escrow who may be anonymous and not just trust the dev who is upfront with his identity. Rhetorical question. The answer to you is, no escrow. Either trust the dev or don't.

Well, maybe use one of the escrows others have used for 1000's of BTC projects before on here who's identity is known?

That is not a rhetorical question.




I don't understand the use of the inherent safety people feel when using escrows. It makes no difference unless the escrow is done with a series of goals or benchmarks. For example, complete the following and then X number of bitcoins more are released so you can complete the next goal. Take a project like Waves for example which raised like 30k BTC. All they had to do was launch the network, which they did using an unmodified Scorex Framework which is stated by it's own developer is not meant to be used in a production environment but rather simply for testing. Regardless, because they were able to launch the network, here you go Waves team enjoy your 30k BTC to do whatever the fuck you want with it.

How did that provide any security for the investors? So when people ask "is there an escrow" all I can think is if that's the full length of your question then...  Roll Eyes
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MY RED TRUST LEFT BY SCUMBAGS - READ MY SIG
there is escrow or not?

Why would you use a escrow who may be anonymous and not just trust the dev who is upfront with his identity. Rhetorical question. The answer to you is, no escrow. Either trust the dev or don't.

Well, maybe use one of the escrows others have used for 1000's of BTC projects before on here who's identity is known?

That is not a rhetorical question.


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Almost 70 Bitcoins now. I think this is when most people will start investing.

This will hopefully be the start of a rush and the team can reach their target.
I never really give a shit but for once I want a legit project to have a good chance while be surrounded by so much shitty projects and clear fucking scams.
Come on lets smash this bad boy out the park!
 I have another 0.5btc I am going to put in later taking me up to 1.3btc. I don't have much but I am not missing out.

I can feel the rush for sure but yeah I have no idea how like so many shit ICO's that have nothing to show, zero credability and that sort of nonsense have no problem raising 100, 200, or even more btc. It's sort of depressing... but it's ok I feel the rush coming! 2 days left!

The great thing is regardless where this goes now we will either have fast development or cheap coins.

The question is what would you prefer? A sell out and raising the cost of the coin but giving faster development or under target giving us all cheap coins with slower development?

I'd prefer that it raises the amount they're asking for or more. I'd really like to see where Rebirth goes in terms of game play dynamic and what it has to offer as I may consider playing it myself if it had cantering towards casual players who don't have much time but enjoy playing these sorts of games. The other thing is sooner Rebirth is in production the sooner we'll see better coverage of it in the media Wink
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It is a very nice op, one of the best I've seen for an ico project in a while.

Hey Chris. Is Hero's almost ready for its official launch?

Think they said it'll be launched on the 1st. I took the 2nd off of work so I can play for an extended weekend and grind it out. That's the plan anyways Grin, Today I sent in 3 BTC I've done my part by messaging a few friends I know about this project, I expect they'll start chipping in soon as well Smiley

So the Heroes will be released in time for the finish of the ICO? That is nice timing and i like the time keeping of Chris, not many developers manage to keep to that what has been scheduled so thumbs up to Chris. 3BTC is slightly more than the skin I have in the game. I am on the fence whether to throw another couple at it.

The heroes full launch wont be on the 1st but we are still close to our original timeline. Unfortunately our other developer has had some serious health issues and has temporarily dropped out of the project. That has set our timetable back by a significant amount. We are still aiming to launch within the first week of September but are giving ourselves a bit of wiggle room with the stance of launching "within the first half of the month".




Here's a quick update on what I've been working on this past week.


Apex

-Windows 10 Aniv Edition support added. The new update changes a number of core system DLLs that we use in our client protection so we had to make changes to accommodate that.
-HWID banning to deal with those who use proxies/VPNs to access the game. This allows for proper permanent ban of abusive members.
-New premium weapon skin added
-Monthly ranked duel leaderboard added with rewards for top 10 ranks.
-Added spring cleaning function for guild leaders. This allows to remove all members who have not been active for 6 months. Sorting through 150+ members manually was a hassle so we wanted a quick tool for them.


Heroes

-Wrote a new autopatch server to handle distributing updates for multiple games off of the same host.
-Started populating a Conquer Heroes wiki to document server systems.
-Added a in-game patchnotes system to inform players of major changes (more info later in post)
-Added referral system so players can invite their friends (more info later in post)
-Re-built the client installer to include a large number of tweaks and assets for future content (avoids distributing large client patches later on)
-Added ~50 new weapon accessories
-Cleaned up tournament logic, added a number of new tournaments and wars (more info later in post)
-Cleaned up quest logic and guides to avoid player confusion (more info later in post)




Some of this has been mentioned previously in the thread but we've added a series of different PK tournaments that run either weekly or monthly to add variety and a unique activity for players to look forward to on nearly every day of the week. Unlike Wars which are skill based (gear and level does not matter), tournaments rely heavily on your characters equipment. These tournaments primarily are for bragging rights although they also provide some significant rewards for winning.

-Class PK Tournament

Players are broken into level groups and fight only members of their own profession. Winners get titles, halos, experience and some other rewards

-Weekly and Monthly PK Tournament

Players are broken into level groups and fight until only one player remains. Winner gets titles, halos, experience, VIP time and some other rewards.

-Clan War

Runs daily and allows clans to fight for control of each major city (except for the starting city). By holding the city's pole at the end of the event, you claim ownership until the next war. During that time your clan (up to 12 members) will gain bonus droprates on that map when hunting monsters. You will also receive some small rewards for the victory itself but if you manage to hold the same city for 7 days in a row you will receive a much larger prize.




In-Game Patchnotes

So we all know that not everyone will read patchnotes but we want to make sure players have every opportunity to know about changes to the game without bombarding them with system messages or alerts. By taking advantage of our HWID system (each physical device has its own key generated) we check on player login to check if their computer has been informed about the latest website article. If not then it displays it using an in-game browser and then will not show that same note to any accounts logged in from that same computer.

This is nothing that complicated but it will definitely help players become more familiar with the game's updates without forcing them to sit through pop-up after pop-up every time they want to log into the game, even if they are using a different character.




Referral System

We're starting pretty basic with the referral system although we have a number of planned improvements for it. Right now we're focusing on making sure the base system functions as it should and that the rewards are distributed in a fair manner.


Users will be able to distribute referral links to the game referencing their character name.

EG: ConquerHeroes.com/register?r=pro4never

When a user registers using one of these links and creates a character, the server will check if their HWID has been used for a referral in the past and if all validity checks pass then the two accounts are 'linked'. For now this means that when the referred player reaches level 100, both them and the player that referred them will receive a random, non-tradable 7 day garment. This is so that even if someone does bypass the HWID system to generate fake computer IDs, the rewards cannot be traded/sold to others and are purely cosmetic in nature.

We will also be adding an account control panel option for players to customize their referral link. These options will make it so that when someone makes a character using your referral link, they will immediately become in-game friends with you! This is of course optional and turned off by default to avoid abuse but is a great way for groups of friends to connect and play the game together.

To clarify: The referral options would be validated server side. We're well aware that there's plenty of trolls out there that would try to abuse a system like that to spam you with friend requests. Referral links including auto-friend or auto-guild invites will be single use and must be generated by the referrer.
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Almost 70 Bitcoins now. I think this is when most people will start investing.

This will hopefully be the start of a rush and the team can reach their target.
I never really give a shit but for once I want a legit project to have a good chance while be surrounded by so much shitty projects and clear fucking scams.
Come on lets smash this bad boy out the park!
 I have another 0.5btc I am going to put in later taking me up to 1.3btc. I don't have much but I am not missing out.

I can feel the rush for sure but yeah I have no idea how like so many shit ICO's that have nothing to show, zero credability and that sort of nonsense have no problem raising 100, 200, or even more btc. It's sort of depressing... but it's ok I feel the rush coming! 2 days left!
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hope that helps Smiley, let us know if you have any further questions!

Enough to you of such amount for the implementation of their plans(70-100 btc)? I'm 99.9 per cent, that the community will vote for the issue of coins. Smiley

Well... to say the least the more we have the more reasonable of a timeline we can develop. For example, with a higher budget we can hire more 3d asset creators / modelers, programmers, etc. With a lower budget it will be a more drawn out project, but go forward as our investors want us to go forward with the project. Once we know what we're working with, it will then be possible for us to draft up our plan going forward and adjust our existing thoughts to suit the working budget.
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If it is less than 200 Bitcoins, the ICO is canceled? Bitcoin return?

I think it probably won't be canceled. I feel like most people here will vote in favor of just going forward because a lot of us have at least checked out Apex and looked into Chris's past involvement in other projects... Maybe I'm giving people too much credit but I have and done my due dilligence and know I will definitely be voting for the project to go forward if it raises under 200.

Lets go Jewels!

The current price is so small I would vote for it to continue and just let the coins sit there until early next year. We have been made aware progress would be slower but I don't mind when you are paying a few hundred sat a coin. This is one of them bargains that rarely comes in crypto.
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