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...S9s will forever suffer from the pre-January deficit...

...Luck doesn't correct itself....
See we can agree on some things  Grin
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Luck doesn't correct itself.
Making any assumption that it does means you clearly have no idea about statistics.
I posted in detail about this the other day also.

Sure it does. Last month you were below the expected. This month you are above the expected. You found more blocks this month than you were supposed to. I wonder if that 20ph of s9v1 that left could have found more blocks than they were supposed to in the last few months to bring the "block found" statistic closer to the "expected block" statistic.
We started losing 25ph in September and it was steady decline through to January. It started long before Kano said anything about upgrading s9v1 or asking people to mine elsewhere with those machines if they couldn't switch it.
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do you agree with the world  that 1+1 = 2

this is true  because  the human race made of a set of rules and we stick to it.

the s9 v1  has a cdf of .992

it has made around 95 blocks while it hashed enough to make 120 blocks.

we the human race made up a set of rules that say the cdf is .992

what this means if there was a 1000 groups of correctly functioning s9's v1 that hashed enough to make 120 blocks

we would have lost out to 992 of them and beat 7 of them.

So at what point does shit luck turn into shit software?

I have no idea.  but 120 blocks of hashing making 95 blocks means death to me as a miner.

and as kano says the luck is not improving it is still worse
 then .99

I get your argument  that if 20ph left and we now have 5 ph in s9 v 1   they can not move us back to a cdc of .80 to .70 to .60 since they do not have strength of numbers do it.
but they are still at .992  which is easy to move to .950  even if the hash is 5 ph and not 20ph in s9's v1

.992 is so fucking bad   that .85 cdc  would move it to .97 cdf  and that has not happened.


so when kano comes to the thread
 and tells us  s9 v1 has improved from .992 cdf to .970 cdf  then to .950 cdf

I would say your point could maybe come true.
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Luck doesn't correct itself.
Making any assumption that it does means you clearly have no idea about statistics.
I posted in detail about this the other day also.

Sure it does. Last month you were below the expected. This month you are above the expected. You found more blocks this month than you were supposed to. I wonder if that 20ph of s9v1 that left could have found more blocks than they were supposed to in the last few months to bring the "block found" statistic closer to the "expected block" statistic.
legendary
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Good to know im not the only one who find a block here on kano with S9v1  Grin looks like all those "bad" miners still able to find blocks Wink
There's no doubt they find blocks, they've found 95 so far.
The issue is the total number S9v1 has found is well below what it should have - CDF[Erl] = 0.991261 with that last one.
(They're expected to have found almost 25 more)
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Had all those machines stayed they could have hit those blocks.
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Yes, and they 'could' have hit more, less, or even none.
Doesn't matter what they 'could' have done, since that's supposed to be random.
Unfortunately, history suggests otherwise.

You altered the history when you told the S9v1 to leave without a long enough sample size. Had they stayed the variance would of caught back up. Any sample size should be bare minimum one year.
Time isn't a factor in determining block luck statistics.
The number of hashes and the number of blocks are the only 2 numbers that matter.

I've no idea where you got 'one year' from.
But they have also been hashing on the pool since I asked people to switch, just not as many.
Time is a factor to figure for block luck statistics. You might have no blocks one day and ten the next. If you calculate the statistics in a short amount of time. You will not have a real number for what the statistics will be over a longer amount of time.
Incorrect.
Again, it is ONLY "The number of hashes and the number of blocks"
Neither have anything to do with time.

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But they have also been hashing on the pool since I asked people to switch, just not as many.
Yes and that is part of my point. Had the majority of the s9 stayed. They could have gone on a lucky streak and come back even with the expected number. But we will never know now since you asked them to leave based on your statistics taken over a way to short of a time frame.
At the same time you asked the s9 to leave. Someone asked about the expected amount for the new avalons. Which you replied there had not been "enough time to get a good idea of the performance of the avalon." Funny how time is a factor when it comes to the avalon. But not the s9.
Incorrect.

The time fact I was referring to was actually hashes - meaning for the time they had been on the pool, they had not expended enough hashes to be able to give a useful sample.

Luck doesn't correct itself.
Making any assumption that it does means you clearly have no idea about statistics.
I posted in detail about this the other day also.
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Good to know im not the only one who find a block here on kano with S9v1  Grin looks like all those "bad" miners still able to find blocks Wink
There's no doubt they find blocks, they've found 95 so far.
The issue is the total number S9v1 has found is well below what it should have - CDF[Erl] = 0.991261 with that last one.
(They're expected to have found almost 25 more)

You see this stattistic was directly affected by you asking the s9 people to leave. So in reality you can only count the blocks after the mass exodus of s9v1.
What is the expected for the S9v1 from after we lost half of our hash rate?
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Good to know im not the only one who find a block here on kano with S9v1  Grin looks like all those "bad" miners still able to find blocks Wink
There's no doubt they find blocks, they've found 95 so far.
The issue is the total number S9v1 has found is well below what it should have - CDF[Erl] = 0.991261 with that last one.
(They're expected to have found almost 25 more)
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Had all those machines stayed they could have hit those blocks.
...
Yes, and they 'could' have hit more, less, or even none.
Doesn't matter what they 'could' have done, since that's supposed to be random.
Unfortunately, history suggests otherwise.

You altered the history when you told the S9v1 to leave without a long enough sample size. Had they stayed the variance would of caught back up. Any sample size should be bare minimum one year.
Time isn't a factor in determining block luck statistics.
The number of hashes and the number of blocks are the only 2 numbers that matter.

I've no idea where you got 'one year' from.
But they have also been hashing on the pool since I asked people to switch, just not as many.
Time is a factor to figure for block luck statistics. You might have no blocks one day and ten the next. If you calculate the statistics in a short amount of time. You will not have a real number for what the statistics will be over a longer amount of time.

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But they have also been hashing on the pool since I asked people to switch, just not as many.
Yes and that is part of my point. Had the majority of the s9 stayed. They could have gone on a lucky streak and come back even with the expected number. But we will never know now since you asked them to leave based on your statistics taken over a way to short of a time frame.
At the same time you asked the s9 to leave. Someone asked about the expected amount for the new avalons. Which you replied there had not been "enough time to get a good idea of the performance of the avalon." Funny how time is a factor when it comes to the avalon. But not the s9.
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You altered the history when you told the S9v1 to leave without a long enough sample size. Had they stayed the variance would of caught back up. Any sample size should be bare minimum one year.
He didn't "alter" anything. S9s will forever suffer from the pre-January deficit and would have to span months of overages to "break even"; this is not the same as "altering history", it's forcing historical losses to coincide with current statistics.
Except that, as I said, people have still been mining with S9v1 on the pool non-stop.
Just a lot fewer.
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You altered the history when you told the S9v1 to leave without a long enough sample size. Had they stayed the variance would of caught back up. Any sample size should be bare minimum one year.
He didn't "alter" anything. S9s will forever suffer from the pre-January deficit and would have to span months of overages to "break even"; this is not the same as "altering history", it's forcing historical losses to coincide with current statistics.
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All those recent ghs added PLEASE LEAVE!!!! It looks like we find blocks faster when we have less ghs going at it.  Grin
legendary
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... as for everyone else asking questions about when the payouts will appear ... read the posts for the last 24 hours that have answered this in detail already Tongue
legendary
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Good to know im not the only one who find a block here on kano with S9v1  Grin looks like all those "bad" miners still able to find blocks Wink
There's no doubt they find blocks, they've found 95 so far.
The issue is the total number S9v1 has found is well below what it should have - CDF[Erl] = 0.991261 with that last one.
(They're expected to have found almost 25 more)
...
Had all those machines stayed they could have hit those blocks.
...
Yes, and they 'could' have hit more, less, or even none.
Doesn't matter what they 'could' have done, since that's supposed to be random.
Unfortunately, history suggests otherwise.

You altered the history when you told the S9v1 to leave without a long enough sample size. Had they stayed the variance would of caught back up. Any sample size should be bare minimum one year.
Time isn't a factor in determining block luck statistics.
The number of hashes and the number of blocks are the only 2 numbers that matter.

I've no idea where you got 'one year' from.
But they have also been hashing on the pool since I asked people to switch, just not as many.
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thanks for the quick response! not what I was wanting to hear, but is better to know how it works  Wink
legendary
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little help please. am using blockchain.info for my wallet and have one incoming and one outgoing transaction that has been confirmed for over 16 hrs...and have other transactions that have been confirmed after those 2. how can I kick them back into gear and get the confirmation?
I don't use any wallet but my own Core, and this is one of the several reasons. I don't have any control over how their vault is managed, or how they initiate their transactions.

To answer your question, there is no way to "kick them back into gear." One of the most common reasons for delays in confirmation is that the sender used a very low, or zero, transaction fee...which will sometimes (depending upon the network load) end up causing long...as in a day or two...delay in confirmation. They're not lost...just kicking back.

I do, of course, use other wallets, but only in the exchanges I use for selling BTC, and I only have enough in their vault to cover the current transaction(s).  I also run a full node on the network. Even so, when I send I use a transaction fee that will generate a transaction in about 8 blocks. Both inbound and outbound tx's confirm in 30 min or so usually. Before I "got smart," however, I had low fee or zero fee transactions take hours, or even in one instance a couple of days...and I learned my lesson on keeping BTC in someone else's vault with Mt. Gox.

Bottom line...be patient.  Kiss
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ya but that new block we are working one now was on we started on more then 38h ago and the two blocks before it matured while we were still working on this last block we are still on. 

If my memory is right the last block that got to maturation when we were something like 16 hours or so in to this block we are still on now.

So I guess it would of worked out real smooth to of gotten this last block done in 100% expected time or better being that would of been not to much longer after block 454915 was done maturing.
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little help please. am using blockchain.info for my wallet and have one incoming and one outgoing transaction that has been confirmed for over 16 hrs...and have other transactions that have been confirmed after those 2. how can I kick them back into gear and get the confirmation?
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Can somebody tell me why my last rewards was 40hrs ago in the block 454915 and that was my last reward? Also I don't get my payment for the 2 last block rewards

Regards


This last block we are trying to smash is just takeing an extra long time to crack it out.  But when it does you should get the payments for the last 2 blocks that have been matured and just now waiting for this long block to get done.     This sucker is going on 206.29% already. BUt I hope we get to add atleast 1 more block to the month of febuary. 


But I guess we got to take the bad luck blocks along with the good streak we have been having.   

But our workers are still mining in a new block??? Or we lost all those hours

of course we are mining Smiley
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Can somebody tell me why my last rewards was 40hrs ago in the block 454915 and that was my last reward? Also I don't get my payment for the 2 last block rewards

Regards


This last block we are trying to smash is just takeing an extra long time to crack it out.  But when it does you should get the payments for the last 2 blocks that have been matured and just now waiting for this long block to get done.     This sucker is going on 206.29% already. BUt I hope we get to add atleast 1 more block to the month of febuary. 


But I guess we got to take the bad luck blocks along with the good streak we have been having.   

But our workers are still mining in a new block??? Or we lost all those hours
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Can somebody tell me why my last rewards was 40hrs ago in the block 454915 and that was my last reward? Also I don't get my payment for the 2 last block rewards

Regards


This last block we are trying to smash is just takeing an extra long time to crack it out.  But when it does you should get the payments for the last 2 blocks that have been matured and just now waiting for this long block to get done.     This sucker is going on 206.29% already. BUt I hope we get to add atleast 1 more block to the month of febuary. 


But I guess we got to take the bad luck blocks along with the good streak we have been having.   
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Can somebody tell me why my last rewards was 40hrs ago in the block 454915 and that was my last reward? Also I don't get my payment for the 2 last block rewards

Regards

Payment is sended when the block have 100 confirm, so the last 2 blocks was not confirmed when the pool send a payment. Nowtime we are waiting for the block now is almost 40 hours, so when block will be solved you receive paymant for last 2 blocks !!!
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