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 Roll Eyes Lets get those lost blocks
legendary
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Carl, aka Sonny :)
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
legendary
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Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Well it's something I added to CKDB long ago to be able to change the miner reward (to put it up twice before)
Here's the message just now:
Code:
[2016-12-16 22:13:02.186+11] process_pplns(): *** block 443699 payout reward overridden, was 1278060860 now 1389667900 = 111607040 (8.7325%) more

There was also something I was waiting on this block for that really had me wondering if it was some sort of vengeance by the block Gods Smiley
I created another node to test a less modified version of 0.13.1 so I can use it on all the nodes except the main pool - to send/receive blocks to/from the fibre block relay network faster. That pretty much requires 0.13.1 to optimise it's use.
And yep, yay, that block was properly submitted and accepted on the test node so that's all good now too, I'll update all the nodes - except the main pool - in the next day to 0.13.1 without segwit Smiley

This may be a silly question and I may have missed a thread that could have explained this but here you go.  Why wouldn't you do the same update to the main pool?  
The main pool generates the work, all (main and nodes) submit blocks.
Submitting a block on a node that no one is mining to, has no chance of causing any problems if it fails.
The initial test worked fine.

I've now switched 3 of the nodes over to the 0.13.1 version.
Aside: the SG node is now a new one, no longer linode. I've also setup a us-east node so it's close to the us-east fibre relay.
The 0.13.1 has, of course, continued to work as expected on the 3 nodes with the new blocks

The work generation for core bitcoind is different now because they have put segwit in it and I'll need to do work generation testing (without segwit) before I switch that over.
Simply, it will require more testing than needed for nodes.

Everything is either 0.13.0 or 0.13.1, but 0.13.1 has a small advantage with using the fibre relay.
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I don't know about auto-tune but it sucks!  You have one shot to pick your frequency and then it is locked in and that tab disappears in the settings.  The only way to try different frequency to find the optimal setting is to re-flash the entire device and choose another frequency and subsequently get re-locked in.  I myself am a default kinda guy.  I don't overclock, or mess with the settings along as it hashes like it supposed to.  However in some cases I have found on the S9's or all antminers I have used since the S2 for that matter that is struggling are to run, by bumping it up in 12.5 MHZ increments (or down, but obviously first you want up) you can usually find a stable setting and life goes on.  However I had one unit (S9) that I decided to upgrade the firmware on and thats when I found this stupid frequency issue.  They (bitmain) even warns you about it before you do it, but since it was one unit I went with it.  I don't know what the purpose of it was other than to stop or discourage people from bouncing all over the place with the frequency.  I suppose a lot of people damage their units with this option trying to squeeze every last hash out of their unit.  What they don't understand is if the frequency is too high the machine actually runs slower.  This isn't like a hyper-hash drive in a star wars movie.  This was probably bitmains way to try and curtail the trouble reports.   

They just removed the link, the old page still works; like: http://192.168.1.202/cgi-bin/minerAdvanced.cgi

The main reason they removed is is because the newer hash boards are preset per chip (one could be 512 and another 693), they wanted 1 firmware to update each time they modded something (instead of 10), and setting frequency on the newer ones does nothing but make you feel like you have some say in the matter.
That's a nifty lil tidbit of info right there.
I just went to http://192.168.x.x/cgi-bin/minerAdvanced.cgi on my new R4 Batch 2, and sure enough, the Freq Mod page comes up.
Not going to mess with my R4 B2 tho, it's been hashing like a champ since day 1 (which was only 4 days ago). Like they say 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it.'
Thanks ComputerGenie.
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Retired IRCX God
I don't know about auto-tune but it sucks!  You have one shot to pick your frequency and then it is locked in and that tab disappears in the settings.  The only way to try different frequency to find the optimal setting is to re-flash the entire device and choose another frequency and subsequently get re-locked in.  I myself am a default kinda guy.  I don't overclock, or mess with the settings along as it hashes like it supposed to.  However in some cases I have found on the S9's or all antminers I have used since the S2 for that matter that is struggling are to run, by bumping it up in 12.5 MHZ increments (or down, but obviously first you want up) you can usually find a stable setting and life goes on.  However I had one unit (S9) that I decided to upgrade the firmware on and thats when I found this stupid frequency issue.  They (bitmain) even warns you about it before you do it, but since it was one unit I went with it.  I don't know what the purpose of it was other than to stop or discourage people from bouncing all over the place with the frequency.  I suppose a lot of people damage their units with this option trying to squeeze every last hash out of their unit.  What they don't understand is if the frequency is too high the machine actually runs slower.  This isn't like a hyper-hash drive in a star wars movie.  This was probably bitmains way to try and curtail the trouble reports.   

They just removed the link, the old page still works; like: http://192.168.1.202/cgi-bin/minerAdvanced.cgi

The main reason they removed is is because the newer hash boards are preset per chip (one could be 512 and another 693), they wanted 1 firmware to update each time they modded something (instead of 10), and setting frequency on the newer ones does nothing but make you feel like you have some say in the matter.
legendary
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is s9v2 the autotune firmware?? I am wanting to upgrade mine from v1
Well, in case it wasn't obvious ...
I have no idea about what firmware runs in what S9 Smiley
So I didn't answer before, but maybe I should bump this for someone else to answer?

To be explicit about it (I think it was sort of answered but not directly), the BMminer v 1.0 firmware is the non-autotune firmware.  The autotune firmware is BMminer v 2.0.

The autotune firmware takes away under\overclocking (as mentioned) but it also takes away manual fan speed control which is a bit lame.  This of course only applies to upgrading the firmware on the earlier models that came with the non-autotune firmware, because if you bought a later model that came with the autotune firmware you never had control of those things anyway.  You cannot downgrade a newer model to a non-autotune firmware but you can upgrade an older model to the autotune firmware, but it will not autotune hashboards that are not designed for autotune.  So basically if you upgrade an older model it will just run at whatever frequency you tell it is stock.  Blockchainmines mentioned this already but when you install the autotune firmware on an older model it asks you to set the stock freq and then it runs at that.  If you mix and match hashboards (like if one breaks and you get a replacement) then the new style hashboards will autotune and old ones will not within the same miner (meaning that the firmware will autotune the boards that are capable of it and run the others at whatever it was told stock freq is).

The earlier versions of the auto-tune firmware had fan speed issues that made the speed go up and down like a yo-yo, the newest versions are more stable in terms of fan speed.  It is still a gamble though to upgrade, I have seen a few accounts were people had serious problems after trying to put the autotune firmware on an older S9.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
yeah I could use some block action,

So the last two blocks were 103 and 90  that is okay
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I'm in BTC XTC
A block at less than 100% diff!  Finally, let's get some green to go with our red for more holiday spirit!!
zOU
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★ these are stars ★
Block by cobramining !
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BTClock!) by cobramining with 507.20THs ) 2th block for the day!
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is s9v2 the autotune firmware?? I am wanting to upgrade mine from v1
Well, in case it wasn't obvious ...
I have no idea about what firmware runs in what S9 Smiley
So I didn't answer before, but maybe I should bump this for someone else to answer?

Right now the only firmware you can get is the auto frequency.  Up until about a month ago they still had the manual frequency there also.

I only have one miner still using the manual freq. The rest are using the auto freq. The auto for me runs great. I left them at the default freq. Now do understand that the majority of my miner are being hosted.And I can completely understand why a home miner would want to be able to control the freq on the fly.
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Well it's something I added to CKDB long ago to be able to change the miner reward (to put it up twice before)
Here's the message just now:
Code:
[2016-12-16 22:13:02.186+11] process_pplns(): *** block 443699 payout reward overridden, was 1278060860 now 1389667900 = 111607040 (8.7325%) more

There was also something I was waiting on this block for that really had me wondering if it was some sort of vengeance by the block Gods Smiley
I created another node to test a less modified version of 0.13.1 so I can use it on all the nodes except the main pool - to send/receive blocks to/from the fibre block relay network faster. That pretty much requires 0.13.1 to optimise it's use.
And yep, yay, that block was properly submitted and accepted on the test node so that's all good now too, I'll update all the nodes - except the main pool - in the next day to 0.13.1 without segwit Smiley

This may be a silly question and I may have missed a thread that could have explained this but here you go.  Why wouldn't you do the same update to the main pool? 
member
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is s9v2 the autotune firmware?? I am wanting to upgrade mine from v1
Well, in case it wasn't obvious ...
I have no idea about what firmware runs in what S9 Smiley
So I didn't answer before, but maybe I should bump this for someone else to answer?

I don't know about auto-tune but it sucks!  You have one shot to pick your frequency and then it is locked in and that tab disappears in the settings.  The only way to try different frequency to find the optimal setting is to re-flash the entire device and choose another frequency and subsequently get re-locked in.  I myself am a default kinda guy.  I don't overclock, or mess with the settings along as it hashes like it supposed to.  However in some cases I have found on the S9's or all antminers I have used since the S2 for that matter that is struggling are to run, by bumping it up in 12.5 MHZ increments (or down, but obviously first you want up) you can usually find a stable setting and life goes on.  However I had one unit (S9) that I decided to upgrade the firmware on and thats when I found this stupid frequency issue.  They (bitmain) even warns you about it before you do it, but since it was one unit I went with it.  I don't know what the purpose of it was other than to stop or discourage people from bouncing all over the place with the frequency.  I suppose a lot of people damage their units with this option trying to squeeze every last hash out of their unit.  What they don't understand is if the frequency is too high the machine actually runs slower.  This isn't like a hyper-hash drive in a star wars movie.  This was probably bitmains way to try and curtail the trouble reports.   
legendary
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Kano, do you see any possibility to upgrade to the newest version of the cgminer with these S9's ?
I guess it is much harder than it was with for example with the S1 and S2?
I'm not going near them.

I spent enough time for a couple of years updating and fixing their crappy hack driver and they've never used any of the fixes I've done.
-ck has made improvements in core cgminer that they have also ignored.

Speak to them about it ...
hero member
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Retired IRCX God
Maybe everyone with s9 v1 should upgrade? Who has a good update to use?
All mine have the Nov 29 update with no issues.

is s9v2 the autotune firmware?? I am wanting to upgrade mine from v1
Well, in case it wasn't obvious ...
I have no idea about what firmware runs in what S9 Smiley
So I didn't answer before, but maybe I should bump this for someone else to answer?

Maybe it was already answered  Huh
legendary
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Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
Kano, do you see any possibility to upgrade to the newest version of the cgminer with these S9's ?
I guess it is much harder than it was with for example with the S1 and S2?
legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
is s9v2 the autotune firmware?? I am wanting to upgrade mine from v1
Well, in case it wasn't obvious ...
I have no idea about what firmware runs in what S9 Smiley
So I didn't answer before, but maybe I should bump this for someone else to answer?
id5
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I have always been after this type of data, or more to the point the raw data underneath. I am not sure what BDR is ...


I don't mean to be rude but to believe this "conspiracy" requires ignorance about how mining actually works...

Not offence taken,  and yes a share is the correct term. I will look further into how the pool generates the work for the miner, the response and what it is combined with from the pool to form the answer.

My thanks to Kano for expanding on BDR as well.
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A fun fact:
lowly Antminer S1 (178GH/s) was making 0.08 BTC/day in March 2014, about what 100th of miners  (7-8 S9) are making right now.
Price of btc is roughly the same. Bottom line: we are making peanuts for our outsize effort, and it is a fact.

And the S1 didn't cost $18K+ USD.


March 4th 2014 was 684 price

Dec 16th 2016 price is 788

Btc was about to drop and drop and drop
 
By May of 2014 btc was 385.

But the question is do we get a strong btc rally this means s9 is decent.
Or does btc drop to 480 this means the s9 is really bad.

well, 684/788=0.86;  to me it IS roughly the same (within 15%), considering that much more importantly, you have to bring in machines that cost at least 20 times more (S1 was something like $800 then) and consume 24 times more electricity.
Come on, you know that it is basically a shitty deal that we got now. Can it get better? Sure, in $$ terms.

I started to mine is late 2014. Prices were in the low $200 and often dip below. The s4 were just released. I still own the bitcoin that I mined then today. I was breaking even at the time when price were at $220. You are right its a shitty deal with the current difficulty and the halving but I'm sure the price will continue to balance its self so that miners are made whole. What is more of a worry to me in the Chinese proportion of the hash rate!     
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