Just for fun and to satisfy my curiosity I am trying out this renting game
Put in an order with W..hash for 2 days @0.0026 (and got several hours 0.0025 to start)
So if my math is correct - this pool should hit 4.14 blocks per day at 100% @43 PH
(43/1494)x144=4.14 blocks/day?
Roughly - To payback on my rental cost - this pool has to hit just under 6 blocks - per day for 2 days. This might happen once or twice a month.
(0.07/.006=11.66 blocks over 2 days or 6 blocks/day).
To my way of thinking its a mugs game. Perhaps the fees on a small rental swamp the reward?
I will see the rental out - but never to return to the rental scene.
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May 22, 2016, 05:12:31 PM
May 22, 2016, 05:02:15 PM
Man, I would gladly cancel my measly 80TH rental if it meant some steady blocks would come our way. But I seriously doubt that has anything to do with our dry spell. Pretty sure that would be impossible.
Anyway, I've had the 80TH running for about a day and a half with ~ two more days on the rental @ .0026.
If the price rises above .0028, I'm just gonna cancel it.
The 80TH in addition to my hardware gives me ~ mid 90TH hash on the pool.
So, in conclusion, let's find some freaking blocks!
Thank you for your cooperation. That is all.
Anyway, I've had the 80TH running for about a day and a half with ~ two more days on the rental @ .0026.
If the price rises above .0028, I'm just gonna cancel it.
The 80TH in addition to my hardware gives me ~ mid 90TH hash on the pool.
So, in conclusion, let's find some freaking blocks!
Thank you for your cooperation. That is all.
May 22, 2016, 04:11:17 PM
Block time!!! 
Is 17Jv using his own machines or rentals?
Is 17Jv using his own machines or rentals?
According to Kano, it's a farm with Avalon hardware.
I'm ready for them to hit some more!
shitt
Thats around 5 million dollars in machines damn
May 22, 2016, 04:00:11 PM
Block time!!!
Is 17Jv using his own machines or rentals?
Is 17Jv using his own machines or rentals?
According to Kano, it's a farm with Avalon hardware.
I'm ready for them to hit some more!
Blocks are certainly few and far-between - even on the network, it seems.
May 22, 2016, 03:53:49 PM
Block time!!!
Is 17Jv using his own machines or rentals?
Is 17Jv using his own machines or rentals?
May 22, 2016, 01:10:08 PM
Block Time! Everyone say it in unison!
May 22, 2016, 12:14:40 PM
Nevermind - it literally came back the second I posted this. How's THAT for troubleshooting!
May 22, 2016, 11:52:26 AM
As soon as people point a lot of renters here, luck goes to mediocre.
it was just fine at 30-35PH and as soon as we get good luck, all those renters jump in and the result is a lot of nothing.
it was just fine at 30-35PH and as soon as we get good luck, all those renters jump in and the result is a lot of nothing.
My point also, could be that the problem is actually Nicehash/ westhash when hash is pointed at Kano.
Worth investigating?
It looks like most of the new hash the past few days comes from 17JVLWM... and they sure are pulling their weight!
If I can't hit a block myself, I hope 17JV hits a block every hour on the hour, 24/7. I can live with that!
+1 for me...I hope 17JV keeps blasting out those blocks!
May 22, 2016, 11:15:02 AM
As soon as people point a lot of renters here, luck goes to mediocre.
it was just fine at 30-35PH and as soon as we get good luck, all those renters jump in and the result is a lot of nothing.
it was just fine at 30-35PH and as soon as we get good luck, all those renters jump in and the result is a lot of nothing.
My point also, could be that the problem is actually Nicehash/ westhash when hash is pointed at Kano.
Worth investigating?
It looks like most of the new hash the past few days comes from 17JVLWM... and they sure are pulling their weight!
If I can't hit a block myself, I hope 17JV hits a block every hour on the hour, 24/7. I can live with that!
May 22, 2016, 11:03:40 AM
As soon as people point a lot of renters here, luck goes to mediocre.
it was just fine at 30-35PH and as soon as we get good luck, all those renters jump in and the result is a lot of nothing.
it was just fine at 30-35PH and as soon as we get good luck, all those renters jump in and the result is a lot of nothing.
My point also, could be that the problem is actually Nicehash/ westhash when hash is pointed at Kano.
Worth investigating?
It looks like most of the new hash the past few days comes from 17JVLWM... and they sure are pulling their weight!
May 22, 2016, 10:57:32 AM
... and 17JVLWMAk1GRtr52JGgc9oJ1Wxpn5ERz9Y is powering thru the blocks now ... 4th one in less than 1 day!
... and in case anyone was ever wondering about why mining here is good for bitcoin:
That block was 987991 bytes and just under 10 seconds after the previous network block.
Yeah we don't make up excuses for crappy software like MANY other pools that mine empty blocks.
We always mine blocks with transactions.
... and in case anyone was ever wondering about why mining here is good for bitcoin:
That block was 987991 bytes and just under 10 seconds after the previous network block.
Yeah we don't make up excuses for crappy software like MANY other pools that mine empty blocks.
We always mine blocks with transactions.
Code:
Previous:
[2016-05-22 21:55:21.280] Block hash changed to 000000000000000000707872c0c86a42c16835daeded451bc910536f929a3997
Ours:
[2016-05-22 21:55:30.811] Possible block solve diff 643870426929.355103 !
[2016-05-22 21:55:31.003] BLOCK ACCEPTED!
[2016-05-22 21:55:31.024] Block hash changed to 000000000000000001b5277bb91aabb3c987e85df04529f56dc43650f2466e3e
[2016-05-22 21:55:21.280] Block hash changed to 000000000000000000707872c0c86a42c16835daeded451bc910536f929a3997
Ours:
[2016-05-22 21:55:30.811] Possible block solve diff 643870426929.355103 !
[2016-05-22 21:55:31.003] BLOCK ACCEPTED!
[2016-05-22 21:55:31.024] Block hash changed to 000000000000000001b5277bb91aabb3c987e85df04529f56dc43650f2466e3e
You're doing great, Kano. 17JVLW must own a chicken farm.
Anyway...I'd love to be the fly on the wall going through your data pile on the "luck/rental" issue. Finding a pattern is a big thing in profiling (the "signature")...but I/we seldom had to deal with a volume of data that you're faced with. Heck of an example for my old grasshoppers (students) on the possible applications of grounded theory.
Sky Pilot brought in a feral chick late last night from outside...alive...and began trying to mother it. Even the two cats were OK with it (we have a bit of a strange household here). I, however, had my reservations as mama chicken was parked at the front door waiting for her kid, and rather vocally, along with the other 7 siblings. Chick went back out...and 17JVLW goes nuts.
Gotta be a correlation there. Gotta be.
Mine on. Best frakkin' job I ever had...
May 22, 2016, 10:54:54 AM
I SEE GREEN
May 22, 2016, 10:48:25 AM
... and 17JVLWMAk1GRtr52JGgc9oJ1Wxpn5ERz9Y is powering thru the blocks now ... 4th one in less than 1 day!
... and in case anyone was ever wondering about why mining here is good for bitcoin:
That block was 987991 bytes and just under 10 seconds after the previous network block.
Yeah we don't make up excuses for crappy software like MANY other pools that mine empty blocks.
We always mine blocks with transactions.
... and in case anyone was ever wondering about why mining here is good for bitcoin:
That block was 987991 bytes and just under 10 seconds after the previous network block.
Yeah we don't make up excuses for crappy software like MANY other pools that mine empty blocks.
We always mine blocks with transactions.
Code:
Previous:
[2016-05-22 21:55:21.280] Block hash changed to 000000000000000000707872c0c86a42c16835daeded451bc910536f929a3997
Ours:
[2016-05-22 21:55:30.811] Possible block solve diff 643870426929.355103 !
[2016-05-22 21:55:31.003] BLOCK ACCEPTED!
[2016-05-22 21:55:31.024] Block hash changed to 000000000000000001b5277bb91aabb3c987e85df04529f56dc43650f2466e3e
[2016-05-22 21:55:21.280] Block hash changed to 000000000000000000707872c0c86a42c16835daeded451bc910536f929a3997
Ours:
[2016-05-22 21:55:30.811] Possible block solve diff 643870426929.355103 !
[2016-05-22 21:55:31.003] BLOCK ACCEPTED!
[2016-05-22 21:55:31.024] Block hash changed to 000000000000000001b5277bb91aabb3c987e85df04529f56dc43650f2466e3e
Spot On and we keep the hash power in the Western world fighting the Chinese. I love this pool vs. So many others.
May 22, 2016, 08:45:44 AM
The Linode DE node just booted off almost every miner (due to network connection issues)
Almost everyone has reconnected and should be all OK again.
This time it was the connection from linode out to most users, since linode back to the main pool node was ok.
Edit: happened again ... looking into why it's still going on ...
'Apparently' a small DDoS on the linode DE servers that's not on the status page.Almost everyone has reconnected and should be all OK again.
This time it was the connection from linode out to most users, since linode back to the main pool node was ok.
Edit: happened again ... looking into why it's still going on ...
I guess they'll have DDoS protection one day
I do have another supplier that does EU that is providing the JP node.
I'll look into adding yet another DE node and maybe run both the new DK node and a new DE node ...
May 22, 2016, 07:03:54 AM
... and 17JVLWMAk1GRtr52JGgc9oJ1Wxpn5ERz9Y is powering thru the blocks now ... 4th one in less than 1 day!
... and in case anyone was ever wondering about why mining here is good for bitcoin:
That block was 987991 bytes and just under 10 seconds after the previous network block.
Yeah we don't make up excuses for crappy software like MANY other pools that mine empty blocks.
We always mine blocks with transactions.
... and in case anyone was ever wondering about why mining here is good for bitcoin:
That block was 987991 bytes and just under 10 seconds after the previous network block.
Yeah we don't make up excuses for crappy software like MANY other pools that mine empty blocks.
We always mine blocks with transactions.
Code:
Previous:
[2016-05-22 21:55:21.280] Block hash changed to 000000000000000000707872c0c86a42c16835daeded451bc910536f929a3997
Ours:
[2016-05-22 21:55:30.811] Possible block solve diff 643870426929.355103 !
[2016-05-22 21:55:31.003] BLOCK ACCEPTED!
[2016-05-22 21:55:31.024] Block hash changed to 000000000000000001b5277bb91aabb3c987e85df04529f56dc43650f2466e3e
[2016-05-22 21:55:21.280] Block hash changed to 000000000000000000707872c0c86a42c16835daeded451bc910536f929a3997
Ours:
[2016-05-22 21:55:30.811] Possible block solve diff 643870426929.355103 !
[2016-05-22 21:55:31.003] BLOCK ACCEPTED!
[2016-05-22 21:55:31.024] Block hash changed to 000000000000000001b5277bb91aabb3c987e85df04529f56dc43650f2466e3e
May 22, 2016, 07:00:41 AM
I'm curious how people quantify both bad luck, and a lot of renters 
As I have said before, and stated it will take some time, I am looking at a way of trying to verify if certain types of mining sources are detrimental to the pool's luck, but even I can't see that with all the information I have already, and if I do manage to quantify that data, it will take a proper analysis of a large amount of data to draw any conclusions ... ... ...
If anyone is seeing this already, I truly would like to see their data to save me the time of going to the quite sizeable effort
Good - luck - rent: See the pattern? They all have 4 letters! And everyone knows that two's company and three's a crowd so one of them has to go! Clearly, if we want good luck, then rent has to go! Simple As I have said before, and stated it will take some time, I am looking at a way of trying to verify if certain types of mining sources are detrimental to the pool's luck, but even I can't see that with all the information I have already, and if I do manage to quantify that data, it will take a proper analysis of a large amount of data to draw any conclusions ... ... ...
If anyone is seeing this already, I truly would like to see their data to save me the time of going to the quite sizeable effort
Thank you, Kano, for cranking the numbers - other pool ops may not even care. We appreciate it!
P.S. It's been raining for many days in a row here in Jersey and I noticed that I also wore boxers each day - I'm switching to briefs today! That will bring sunshine for sure!
May 22, 2016, 05:36:55 AM
Re: random unknown rental issues ... or I could just complete what I'm doing
It wont take a month and I don't go randomly banning people for no reason at all ... so by the time that "first test month" is over and no change, I should have enough information to post publicly (as I said before) and decide.
It wont take a month and I don't go randomly banning people for no reason at all ... so by the time that "first test month" is over and no change, I should have enough information to post publicly (as I said before) and decide.
May 22, 2016, 05:24:09 AM
...and people's that can't properly read threads should fill it with something else. Those were regarding large rentals.
ToucheI'm curious how people quantify both bad luck, and a lot of renters
Touche? 
May 22, 2016, 04:09:56 AM
I'm curious how people quantify both bad luck, and a lot of renters
As I have said before, and stated it will take some time, I am looking at a way of trying to verify if certain types of mining sources are detrimental to the pool's luck, but even I can't see that with all the information I have already, and if I do manage to quantify that data, it will take a proper analysis of a large amount of data to draw any conclusions ... ... ...
If anyone is seeing this already, I truly would like to see their data to save me the time of going to the quite sizeable effort
As I have said before, and stated it will take some time, I am looking at a way of trying to verify if certain types of mining sources are detrimental to the pool's luck, but even I can't see that with all the information I have already, and if I do manage to quantify that data, it will take a proper analysis of a large amount of data to draw any conclusions ... ... ...
If anyone is seeing this already, I truly would like to see their data to save me the time of going to the quite sizeable effort
May 22, 2016, 03:50:59 AM
As soon as people point a lot of renters here, luck goes to mediocre.
it was just fine at 30-35PH and as soon as we get good luck, all those renters jump in and the result is a lot of nothing.
it was just fine at 30-35PH and as soon as we get good luck, all those renters jump in and the result is a lot of nothing.
My point also, could be that the problem is actually Nicehash/ westhash when hash is pointed at Kano.
Worth investigating?
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