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legendary
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Just had a failover on many of the nodes at 09:08 UTC
It's not clear if it was caused by the main server or the nodes, since they all connected back shortly afterwards, but not all nodes lost connection.
All the failover nodes were AWS but not all AWS failed over.
Affected were UK, DE and most of Stratum.
Anyway, they all connected back again quickly and all ok again.

Edit: and diff just went up - pretty small one 2.77%
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[2018-06-19 09:15:01.595+00] workinfo_add(): DIFF CHANGE: hi=528192 delta=2.77% new=5077499034879.0 prev=4940704885521.8
member
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4 s9's 2 821's
Is there a chance that is what happens when a larger miner has a bank of machines go offline?

Just a guess

if it's offline, it's not returning anything.  Would have to be when they come back online with a bunch of "stale" shares.  
It's probably due to looking when we find a block.

Every block change, the first shares are stale since they are the ones that arrived late from the previous block hashing.
However, when we get a new block, all the stats are initially zero, so the stales are initially a large % of all shares.

The total stale % goes down as more shares are submitted after the block change and goes up a bit every time there is a new network block - since that's what causes stale shares - but as time progresses from our last found block, as we get a larger and larger Diff%, the amount it goes up is of course relatively a LOT smaller.
You'll see it is currently down to 0.35% (at 5.8% diff)

Hmm - looking at that other pool - 2.8% rejected at 73% diff ... ouch.

Edit: oh I missed mentioning a second cause of it also.
There's a large miner that fails over often to the pool, his SPS value is actually about the same as the pool total SPS!
So when that happens, there may be a large number of 'Hi' shares when he connects - and as I've explained before about 'Hi' shares, they actually don't matter at all in terms of reward effect on the miner. But alas, they do show up as part of the 'Invalid' count.
So again, when this happens, if the pool Diff% is very low, it will appear as a much higher Invalid %.

That may have been it on the large miner.   
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Is there a chance that is what happens when a larger miner has a bank of machines go offline?
if it's offline, it's not returning anything.  Would have to be when they come back online with a bunch of "stale" shares.  
...SPS...
What is this SPS you speak of?
Shares per second sent to the pool.
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1xA921 + 1xA741 + Backup-->1xA6 ;)
Is there a chance that is what happens when a larger miner has a bank of machines go offline?
if it's offline, it's not returning anything.  Would have to be when they come back online with a bunch of "stale" shares.  
...SPS...
What is this SPS you speak of?
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Is there a chance that is what happens when a larger miner has a bank of machines go offline?

Just a guess

if it's offline, it's not returning anything.  Would have to be when they come back online with a bunch of "stale" shares.  
It's probably due to looking when we find a block.

Every block change, the first shares are stale since they are the ones that arrived late from the previous block hashing.
However, when we get a new block, all the stats are initially zero, so the stales are initially a large % of all shares.

The total stale % goes down as more shares are submitted after the block change and goes up a bit every time there is a new network block - since that's what causes stale shares - but as time progresses from our last found block, as we get a larger and larger Diff%, the amount it goes up is of course relatively a LOT smaller.
You'll see it is currently down to 0.35% (at 5.8% diff)

Hmm - looking at that other pool - 2.8% rejected at 73% diff ... ouch.

Edit: oh I missed mentioning a second cause of it also.
There's a large miner that fails over often to the pool, his SPS value is actually about the same as the pool total SPS!
So when that happens, there may be a large number of 'Hi' shares when he connects - and as I've explained before about 'Hi' shares, they actually don't matter at all in terms of reward effect on the miner. But alas, they do show up as part of the 'Invalid' count.
So again, when this happens, if the pool Diff% is very low, it will appear as a much higher Invalid %.
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
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Kano, since you are so great with numbers, did you happen to run your own numbers to compare with what minergain has?  I have offered many times to have anyone review the data for accuracy (with no takers), so just curious if you came up with similar numbers or are interested in seeing the raw data?
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I go by my numbers KDB generates on the web site.
It's complete for each month, and specific block ranges.
There's no 'vague adjustments' to make it look better (or worse) it's just the numbers as shown.

Each person's reward will vary from the PAPPS% since the pool is PPLNS not PPS.
That's what the 'A' is - average - average over all miners (PA = pool average as it says)
If you mine constantly at a specific hash rate, is should be VERY close to the PAPPS%
But no one does that Smiley so it varies up and down a bit, and varies more depending on how variable your hash rate is.
newbie
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You should look at cryptouniverse, just in case.
741 is 100 euro with shipping in July, and just email them for a custom shipping quote it's way cheaper.

 Its a great deal if you can find a spare 200 kicking around.

Thanx, i'll check that one out.
legendary
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You should look at cryptouniverse, just in case.
741 is 100 euro with shipping in July, and just email them for a custom shipping quote it's way cheaper.

 Its a great deal if you can find a spare 200 kicking around.
newbie
Activity: 65
Merit: 0
When lookin at my stats page what do I go be for my "rate"? Share rate or Hash rate? Tryin to get above that Dust level. Gots four S3s running right now and the "big" AC is off. Numbers are crawlin up but it's beginning to get warm. "The power management struggle continues!"
Um you *do know* that a single undervolted A741 or even A721 will pull less power than those 3x s3's and still give around 5-6THs right? That is substantially above Dust level (and hopefully will be for quite a long while!). Just sayin'...

Craigslist locally the sellers are mighty "proud" of their used (or otherwise) equipment. Funds at the moment preclude an equipment upgrade but it's in my future. Just gotta settle for now.
member
Activity: 490
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1xA921 + 1xA741 + Backup-->1xA6 ;)
Ahh, BTCountiful BTClock Mund'y!!!

Ok, euphoria has worn off... More, please!

P.S. - Its still Mund'y in 'Merica, so let's go for four!
full member
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#takeminingback
BTCBTCBTCamm!!! Awesomeness!!! Monday's have been Plentiful!!!
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Still plenty of time left for it to be 2 BTClock Monday  Smiley Smiley Smiley

It already is.. now a 3 block Monday would be sweet
Sweetness achieved Smiley
newbie
Activity: 41
Merit: 0
Boom ! Triple block Monday  Grin
With 2 mins to spare none the less
legendary
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Merit: 1032
Carl, aka Sonny :)
Block! by leventra Smiley

This is just in time for our 3rd of BLOCK MONDAY! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Edit:  Welcome to the Acclaim Board with your 1st Kano block! Grin
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
legendary
Activity: 3822
Merit: 2703
Evil beware: We have waffles!
When lookin at my stats page what do I go be for my "rate"? Share rate or Hash rate? Tryin to get above that Dust level. Gots four S3s running right now and the "big" AC is off. Numbers are crawlin up but it's beginning to get warm. "The power management struggle continues!"
Um you *do know* that a single undervolted A741 or even A721 will pull less power than those 3x s3's and still give around 5-6THs right? That is substantially above Dust level (and hopefully will be for quite a long while!). Just sayin'...
newbie
Activity: 65
Merit: 0
Hadda shut em down and restore the main AC.. Reached 96 degs inside. 107 outside. Even tho they run above dust it ain't worth sitting here sweatin. When I get my venting system set up it should be better.
newbie
Activity: 65
Merit: 0
When lookin at my stats page what do I go be for my "rate"? Share rate or Hash rate? Tryin to get above that Dust level. Gots four S3s running right now and the "big" AC is off. Numbers are crawlin up but it's beginning to get warm. "The power management struggle continues!"
member
Activity: 490
Merit: 16
1xA921 + 1xA741 + Backup-->1xA6 ;)
Still plenty of time left for it to be 2 BTClock Monday  Smiley Smiley Smiley
It already is.. now a 3 block Monday would be sweet
Come on triple block Monday!!!
legendary
Activity: 3234
Merit: 1220
Still plenty of time left for it to be 2 BTClock Monday  Smiley Smiley Smiley

It already is.. now a 3 block Monday would be sweet
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