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June 17, 2018, 11:55:05 AM
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June 17, 2018, 11:26:29 AM
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June 17, 2018, 09:06:28 AM
Guys I just did some math while waiting for a pie to bake...ya ya ya I know, I'm no mathmetician, I'm not smart enough to do a wire xfer remember? Seems 73% of the pool's hashrate is the top ten miners. there's 1075 users currently active, and that number is WAY down from when I started mining here. Not complaining, but looking at it from the angle that this is hardly a decentralized effort. I know that attracting the whales is a key step for this pool to move forward, and for all I know that 73% number might look very decentralized compared to our competition, but it seems we are losing the little guy in droves! How to keep the small timer's around I wonder? And attract more? I came here from slush and have not regretted that decision at all, but, I am starting to see my opinion shift into the minority!
I believe, that user number dropped because there were rentals connected, and they've been removed to better protect the pool.
You are correct, that we're losing smaller miners, and I believe that is price related. They simply cannot afford to pay to run their
equipment at the current price. Unless we can somehow raise the price, or lower their bills, there's not much we can do to keep
them around.
No doubt it's a hard time to mine...I'm no where near profitable right now, just trying to get through the hard times. As far as rentals, we've had this conversation. Don't think that's a factor. Alot of miners we lost are in the range between U and me (35-50th) and the big boys (say .5Ph). I'm concerned that those are an important part of the user base. I wish I could look at some other pools hashrate distribution stats for comparison (ie slush), If this is an industry wide issue, then oh well.
June 16, 2018, 11:27:39 PM
...BTW I might upgrade this to a 220~250cfm if I end up resorting to overclocking/overvolting this thing after upgrading to an exponentially better miner--not as worried about the old one after it's out to pasture.
Has anyone here found the best way to overclock/overvolt an Avalon6 + 1200w HP PSU (DPS-1200FB-1 A)?Cgminer currently shows that it's running at 11.6-11.7v, which results in 3.5-3.6THs.
June 16, 2018, 11:20:29 PM
This is how I've kept mine "cool" so far--max of 35/36°C intake temps.
It's a 6" semi-rigid aluminum dryer vent out a window with the other side blocked off with some foam board. It's admittedly ghetto, but I keep it clean (with Duster):
https://preview.ibb.co/mNoFjd/WP_20180616_18_35_37_Pro.jpg
I like your venting rig. It's a 6" semi-rigid aluminum dryer vent out a window with the other side blocked off with some foam board. It's admittedly ghetto, but I keep it clean (with Duster
):https://preview.ibb.co/mNoFjd/WP_20180616_18_35_37_Pro.jpg
I've picked up a few dryier vents. Ordered a few "Reducers" (7" to 4"). Gonna pull a small window and cut a piece of 2" foam to fit and vent it out. Winter comes I'll reverse em. Even though it never stays cold here long enough for home heat to be an issue... I sometimes turn on the AC on sunny days in January!
I tried the 4" vent that came with our house for a very short time, and I was literally hitting shutoff temps due to it not allowing enough throughput for my Avalon6's ~190cfm airflow. BTW I might upgrade this to a 220~250cfm if I end up resorting to overclocking/overvolting this thing after upgrading to an exponentially better miner--not as worried about the old one after it's out to pasture.
Anyway, Look for a 6" setup that fits over the entire 120mm fan housing. You will be glad you did it right the first time... and you won't have to hear it from our wife after you make that trip back to the home improvement store.
Also, the cool thing about the foam board in the window is that you can always expand by cutting more holes for extra vents. I'm a little less concerned about the open window security risk in my situation since there's a double-locked and alarm-secured door that seals this back room off from our actual living space.
Last thing: If I ever own several miners, I'm going to rig them up in a vertical position since heat rises, so they can vent up and out the top of the window rather than the bottom.
Mine on!
June 16, 2018, 07:39:47 PM
This is how I've kept mine "cool" so far--max of 35/36°C intake temps.
It's a 6" semi-rigid aluminum dryer vent out a window with the other side blocked off with some foam board. It's admittedly ghetto, but I keep it clean (with Duster):
https://preview.ibb.co/mNoFjd/WP_20180616_18_35_37_Pro.jpg
I like your venting rig. It's a 6" semi-rigid aluminum dryer vent out a window with the other side blocked off with some foam board. It's admittedly ghetto, but I keep it clean (with Duster
):https://preview.ibb.co/mNoFjd/WP_20180616_18_35_37_Pro.jpg
I've picked up a few dryier vents. Ordered a few "Reducers" (7" to 4"). Gonna pull a small window and cut a piece of 2" foam to fit and vent it out. Winter comes I'll reverse em. Even though it never stays cold here long enough for home heat to be an issue. Hell I sometimes turn on the AC on sunny days in January!
June 16, 2018, 07:12:30 PM
The current 'dust' belongs to whoever owns the account that has the dust.
I wont be taking it away, it will be sent to them.
If they want to forward it later to someone else, then that's just a straight forward BTC transaction, and their individual choice.
As mentioned before, the new payout system will be: every block, or, once a week, or one a month.
You'll be able to set a payout limit on your account - it will probably default to 0.01 BTC (I've not decided the value yet - but it will also have a lower limit)
Every block will be the top 100-200, or there abouts, but limited to only the top 100-200 miners, who are above their payout limit (and above 0.01)
Weekly will be everyone else who has their outstanding balance, when I do the weekly payout, above their account specified limit.
Monthly will be everyone else, so each month the pool balance will effectively be zero.
Once I have sent out all the dust in the first 'once a month' I will probably set a 100sat limit to monthly rewards and any less than '100sat' would go to the pool and just be part of the txn fees paid to send the payouts.
If you can't make 1c a month mining on the pool, then, well, yep that will make you want to go somewhere else.
At the moment, 100sat/1c a month/12c a year is very roughly20GHs1GHs, and of course that 20GHs1GHs will keep climbing.
I haven't finalised my decision on this 'after the first dust payout' 100sat limit - but I can't see any other way to stop ridiculously tiny balance accounts hanging around for a loooooong time.
Edit: sorry mistake there
100 sat/month is less than 1GHs
I wont be taking it away, it will be sent to them.
If they want to forward it later to someone else, then that's just a straight forward BTC transaction, and their individual choice.
As mentioned before, the new payout system will be: every block, or, once a week, or one a month.
You'll be able to set a payout limit on your account - it will probably default to 0.01 BTC (I've not decided the value yet - but it will also have a lower limit)
Every block will be the top 100-200, or there abouts, but limited to only the top 100-200 miners, who are above their payout limit (and above 0.01)
Weekly will be everyone else who has their outstanding balance, when I do the weekly payout, above their account specified limit.
Monthly will be everyone else, so each month the pool balance will effectively be zero.
Once I have sent out all the dust in the first 'once a month' I will probably set a 100sat limit to monthly rewards and any less than '100sat' would go to the pool and just be part of the txn fees paid to send the payouts.
If you can't make 1c a month mining on the pool, then, well, yep that will make you want to go somewhere else.
At the moment, 100sat/1c a month/12c a year is very roughly
I haven't finalised my decision on this 'after the first dust payout' 100sat limit - but I can't see any other way to stop ridiculously tiny balance accounts hanging around for a loooooong time.
Edit: sorry mistake there
100 sat/month is less than 1GHsI have two small dust payments due to be totally honest I never really worried about. but, if it's easier you can just roll it into the payout bank(or whatever the new systems unpaid BTC is going to be call).
513395 2018-Mar-13 20:13 12.87645244 16.480T 378hr 5m 12s 52.00PHs 0.00% 63.535M 200.48GHs 0.00004964
513362 2018-Mar-13 14:19 12.98194018 16.465T 379hr 37m 25s 51.74PHs 0.00% 40.345M 126.79GHs 0.00003181
Thanks
June 16, 2018, 07:02:38 PM
The current 'dust' belongs to whoever owns the account that has the dust.
I wont be taking it away, it will be sent to them.
If they want to forward it later to someone else, then that's just a straight forward BTC transaction, and their individual choice.
As mentioned before, the new payout system will be: every block, or, once a week, or one a month.
You'll be able to set a payout limit on your account - it will probably default to 0.01 BTC (I've not decided the value yet - but it will also have a lower limit)
Every block will be the top 100-200, or there abouts, but limited to only the top 100-200 miners, who are above their payout limit (and above 0.01)
Weekly will be everyone else who has their outstanding balance, when I do the weekly payout, above their account specified limit.
Monthly will be everyone else, so each month the pool balance will effectively be zero.
Once I have sent out all the dust in the first 'once a month' I will probably set a 100sat limit to monthly rewards and any less than '100sat' would go to the pool and just be part of the txn fees paid to send the payouts.
If you can't make 1c a month mining on the pool, then, well, yep that will make you want to go somewhere else.
At the moment, 100sat/1c a month/12c a year is very roughly 20GHs, and of course that 20GHs will keep climbing.
I haven't finalised my decision on this 'after the first dust payout' 100sat limit - but I can't see any other way to stop ridiculously tiny balance accounts hanging around for a loooooong time.
I wont be taking it away, it will be sent to them.
If they want to forward it later to someone else, then that's just a straight forward BTC transaction, and their individual choice.
As mentioned before, the new payout system will be: every block, or, once a week, or one a month.
You'll be able to set a payout limit on your account - it will probably default to 0.01 BTC (I've not decided the value yet - but it will also have a lower limit)
Every block will be the top 100-200, or there abouts, but limited to only the top 100-200 miners, who are above their payout limit (and above 0.01)
Weekly will be everyone else who has their outstanding balance, when I do the weekly payout, above their account specified limit.
Monthly will be everyone else, so each month the pool balance will effectively be zero.
Once I have sent out all the dust in the first 'once a month' I will probably set a 100sat limit to monthly rewards and any less than '100sat' would go to the pool and just be part of the txn fees paid to send the payouts.
If you can't make 1c a month mining on the pool, then, well, yep that will make you want to go somewhere else.
At the moment, 100sat/1c a month/12c a year is very roughly 20GHs, and of course that 20GHs will keep climbing.
I haven't finalised my decision on this 'after the first dust payout' 100sat limit - but I can't see any other way to stop ridiculously tiny balance accounts hanging around for a loooooong time.
I have two small dust payments due to be totally honest I never really worried about. but, if it's easier you can just roll it into the payout bank(or whatever the new systems unpaid BTC is going to be call).
513395 2018-Mar-13 20:13 12.87645244 16.480T 378hr 5m 12s 52.00PHs 0.00% 63.535M 200.48GHs 0.00004964
513362 2018-Mar-13 14:19 12.98194018 16.465T 379hr 37m 25s 51.74PHs 0.00% 40.345M 126.79GHs 0.00003181
Thanks
June 16, 2018, 06:40:38 PM
The current 'dust' belongs to whoever owns the account that has the dust.
I wont be taking it away, it will be sent to them.
If they want to forward it later to someone else, then that's just a straight forward BTC transaction, and their individual choice.
As mentioned before, the new payout system will be: every block, or, once a week, or one a month.
You'll be able to set a payout limit on your account - it will probably default to 0.01 BTC (I've not decided the value yet - but it will also have a lower limit)
Every block will be the top 100-200, or there abouts, but limited to only the top 100-200 miners, who are above their payout limit (and above 0.01)
Weekly will be everyone else who has their outstanding balance, when I do the weekly payout, above their account specified limit.
Monthly will be everyone else, so each month the pool balance will effectively be zero.
Once I have sent out all the dust in the first 'once a month' I will probably set a 100sat limit to monthly rewards and any less than '100sat' would go to the pool and just be part of the txn fees paid to send the payouts.
If you can't make 1c a month mining on the pool, then, well, yep that will make you want to go somewhere else.
At the moment, 100sat/1c a month/12c a year is very roughly20GHs1GHs, and of course that 20GHs1GHs will keep climbing.
I haven't finalised my decision on this 'after the first dust payout' 100sat limit - but I can't see any other way to stop ridiculously tiny balance accounts hanging around for a loooooong time.
Edit: sorry mistake there 100 sat/month is less than 1GHs
I wont be taking it away, it will be sent to them.
If they want to forward it later to someone else, then that's just a straight forward BTC transaction, and their individual choice.
As mentioned before, the new payout system will be: every block, or, once a week, or one a month.
You'll be able to set a payout limit on your account - it will probably default to 0.01 BTC (I've not decided the value yet - but it will also have a lower limit)
Every block will be the top 100-200, or there abouts, but limited to only the top 100-200 miners, who are above their payout limit (and above 0.01)
Weekly will be everyone else who has their outstanding balance, when I do the weekly payout, above their account specified limit.
Monthly will be everyone else, so each month the pool balance will effectively be zero.
Once I have sent out all the dust in the first 'once a month' I will probably set a 100sat limit to monthly rewards and any less than '100sat' would go to the pool and just be part of the txn fees paid to send the payouts.
If you can't make 1c a month mining on the pool, then, well, yep that will make you want to go somewhere else.
At the moment, 100sat/1c a month/12c a year is very roughly
I haven't finalised my decision on this 'after the first dust payout' 100sat limit - but I can't see any other way to stop ridiculously tiny balance accounts hanging around for a loooooong time.
Edit: sorry mistake there
100 sat/month is less than 1GHs June 16, 2018, 06:35:42 PM
This is how I've kept mine "cool" so far--max of 35/36°C intake temps.
It's a 6" semi-rigid aluminum dryer vent out a window with the other side blocked off with some foam board. It's admittedly ghetto, but I keep it clean (with Duster):
It's a 6" semi-rigid aluminum dryer vent out a window with the other side blocked off with some foam board. It's admittedly ghetto, but I keep it clean (with Duster
): June 16, 2018, 06:21:28 PM
At the moment I have three online (and it's hot in here) and I'm running 1.3 THz so I'm almost there. Running a RV Roof heatpump that's on a separate circuit but it's not enough to cool the entire place in the heat of the day. main AC has 15k BTU and I haveta shut off the water heater (and the miners) to run it.
You, sir, deserve some merit for sheer dedication alone. June 16, 2018, 05:50:35 PM
At the moment I have three online (and it's hot in here) and I'm running 1.3 THz so I'm almost there. Running a RV Roof heatpump that's on a separate circuit but it's not enough to cool the entire place in the heat of the day. main AC has 15k BTU and I haveta shut off the water heater (and the miners) to run it.
June 16, 2018, 05:46:48 PM
Don't have 220-240 at home. I have it in my shop for my welders but Wifi issues preclude my setting them there yet. with some shenanigans I can pull 220 in here but I gotta watch for management in this Senior Park.....They'll have a cow if the find out what I'm doing.
Does no one complain about the exhaust noise?
I'm in the back in the RV section. Snowbirds are gone till November and my only neighbors are 150ft away. Not an issue.
June 16, 2018, 05:44:41 PM
My shop is three miles away. Can't afford the Cat-6 to get there and the local authorities might have a problem with it on the sidewalk.
Is it line-of-sight by any chance? I use radio bridges to go between my buildings and they work fine (about $69 each and you need a pair (disclosure: price from memory a year ago)).
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Tried it but property management won't let me put an antenna on the roof. also he often for no apparent reason kills power to my building for a time.
June 16, 2018, 05:42:50 PM
Don't have 220-240 at home. I have it in my shop for my welders but Wifi issues preclude my setting them there yet. with some shenanigans I can pull 220 in here but I gotta watch for management in this Senior Park.....They'll have a cow if the find out what I'm doing.
Does no one complain about the exhaust noise?
June 16, 2018, 05:42:39 PM
I understand about how he has a lot on his plate. AND I understand how he has a responsibility to the bigger miners. I'm a noob to mining and here so it's difficult to conceive of the numbers some of the bigger miners are mining. Alls I can say is there are some of us new to this without resources to go into big time (I have 5 S3s and not enough power to run them all at once) yet that would be incentivized by even a small reward for my (our) efforts? The dust minimum is what it is and I've got power (and money) issues to get there. Not lookin for a lot.....just some small gratification.
S7s are barely worth running today unless you have free power (which few actually do - SOMEBODY is paying for that power!). I hate to say it but (5) S3s is wha? ~2.5TH? - you could save power by replacing those with a single S9 and be running 5+ times faster.
Don't have the cash to step up for an s9 quite yet. And the continuous 1200 watts may be a problem for me here. But thinking of sellin the S3s as a package and adding a bit to it then stepping up. I gots $125 in all of them w/PSUs. Not sure what I can get but I think I can come out on top.
June 16, 2018, 05:32:04 PM
My shop is three miles away. Can't afford the Cat-6 to get there and the local authorities might have a problem with it on the sidewalk.
Is it line-of-sight by any chance? I use radio bridges to go between my buildings and they work fine (about $69 each and you need a pair (disclosure: price from memory a year ago)).
June 16, 2018, 05:30:33 PM
Guys I just did some math while waiting for a pie to bake...ya ya ya I know, I'm no mathmetician, I'm not smart enough to do a wire xfer remember? Seems 73% of the pool's hashrate is the top ten miners. there's 1075 users currently active, and that number is WAY down from when I started mining here. Not complaining, but looking at it from the angle that this is hardly a decentralized effort. I know that attracting the whales is a key step for this pool to move forward, and for all I know that 73% number might look very decentralized compared to our competition, but it seems we are losing the little guy in droves! How to keep the small timer's around I wonder? And attract more? I came here from slush and have not regretted that decision at all, but, I am starting to see my opinion shift into the minority!
I wonder how many of those little guys are running older equipment and have shutdown due to higher diff and lower price?
June 16, 2018, 05:28:19 PM
Guys I just did some math while waiting for a pie to bake...ya ya ya I know, I'm no mathmetician, I'm not smart enough to do a wire xfer remember? Seems 73% of the pool's hashrate is the top ten miners. there's 1075 users currently active, and that number is WAY down from when I started mining here. Not complaining, but looking at it from the angle that this is hardly a decentralized effort. I know that attracting the whales is a key step for this pool to move forward, and for all I know that 73% number might look very decentralized compared to our competition, but it seems we are losing the little guy in droves! How to keep the small timer's around I wonder? And attract more? I came here from slush and have not regretted that decision at all, but, I am starting to see my opinion shift into the minority!
I believe, that user number dropped because there were rentals connected, and they've been removed to better protect the pool.
You are correct, that we're losing smaller miners, and I believe that is price related. They simply cannot afford to pay to run their
equipment at the current price. Unless we can somehow raise the price, or lower their bills, there's not much we can do to keep
them around.
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