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Quote from: mathisforlosersdude on March 07, 2016, 06:14:58 PM

Quote from: wolfen on March 07, 2016, 06:11:33 PM

So you run on solo.ckpool?

I should have clarified. I'm not finding the blocks. Just that someone on the pool finds one. Do miners act as relays in addition to mining...I don't run a node.

Yes I run on solo sometimes, no luck so far...I'm not sure what the math says about it Cheesy

Edit. Now I'm running on solo and kano simultaneously now.

Well you can check your chances here:
http://tradebtc.net/bitcalc.php

mathisforlosersdude

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Quote from: wolfen on March 07, 2016, 06:11:33 PM

So you run on solo.ckpool?

I should have clarified. I'm not finding the blocks. Just that someone on the pool finds one. Do miners act as relays in addition to mining...I don't run a node.

Yes I run on solo sometimes, no luck so far...I'm not sure what the math says about it Cheesy

Edit. Now I'm running on solo and kano simultaneously now.

wolfen

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Quote from: mathisforlosersdude on March 07, 2016, 06:05:25 PM

Quote from: GigaBit on March 07, 2016, 10:04:52 AM

Hey, I just noticed this pool pays-out instantly on block finds.
Sorry but I can't get payments on every block; I've a very neat wallet, your pool just made it very trashy.
Once a day is more than enough, once a week is best, every block is a big no-no for me.
This falls under "shit forced upon me that I don't want nor need to deal with" category.

Sorry but I cannot mine here for the foreseeable future.
Maybe if you let miners decide when to cashout or once a day at best, but for the time being, I prefer less payments.
It's just less hassle for me.

Keep up the great work, I love how you fill the blocks.

I understood this as satirical?

Anyways. I seem to have a "magical miner"

On no less than 4 occasions the pool has found a block within 5 minutes of starting. Could this somehow help the pool? Or is it just crazy coincidence?

Starting miner now. 3:00 pacific.

Edit. 3:05 newbie

So you run on solo.ckpool?

mathisforlosersdude

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Quote from: GigaBit on March 07, 2016, 10:04:52 AM

Hey, I just noticed this pool pays-out instantly on block finds.
Sorry but I can't get payments on every block; I've a very neat wallet, your pool just made it very trashy.
Once a day is more than enough, once a week is best, every block is a big no-no for me.
This falls under "shit forced upon me that I don't want nor need to deal with" category.

Sorry but I cannot mine here for the foreseeable future.
Maybe if you let miners decide when to cashout or once a day at best, but for the time being, I prefer less payments.
It's just less hassle for me.

Keep up the great work, I love how you fill the blocks.

I understood this as satirical?

Anyways. I seem to have a "magical miner"

On no less than 4 occasions the pool has found a block within 5 minutes of starting. Could this somehow help the pool? Or is it just crazy coincidence?

Starting miner now. 3:00 pacific.

Edit. 3:05 newbie

wolfen

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A new block. I agree.

nhando

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We need a Block right about now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,....

Crispyato

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Quote from: GigaBit on March 07, 2016, 10:04:52 AM

Hey, I just noticed this pool pays-out instantly on block finds.
Sorry but I can't get payments on every block; I've a very neat wallet, your pool just made it very trashy.
Once a day is more than enough, once a week is best, every block is a big no-no for me.
This falls under "shit forced upon me that I don't want nor need to deal with" category.

Sorry but I cannot mine here for the foreseeable future.
Maybe if you let miners decide when to cashout or once a day at best, but for the time being, I prefer less payments.
It's just less hassle for me.

Keep up the great work, I love how you fill the blocks.

I sorry I don't mean to be rude. Pointing your miners for a clean wallet is absolutely foolish. The best pools are not wallets. Wallets are wallets. This is bitcoin, you have so many options in so many wallets you can auto pay to or sort. I'm sure the people hear would offer plenty of suggestions regardless of your pick. Pick your pool based on coin, trust, community, size, risk, reward... Any reason but a "clean wallet" So many options for organizing your coin man. Work your wallets around you pool pick or you may regret your pick. I'm with whoever said trash my wallet. Please do, flood me as soon as it gets there.

Legacy2005

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Quote from: clgrissom3 on March 07, 2016, 03:32:34 PM

Quote from: bitmine49 on March 07, 2016, 03:18:59 PM

Thanks for the reply. It does seem that 1 - a min transaction should be part of the block. or just a 5 hr ban from mining (including pools) when an empty block is mined.

Haha! I long for the day when this could be enforced! Cheesy

this would only have to be enforced for like 1 day and those pools would take such a hit they would change their ways.

the times we find blocks with almost a full btc in tx fees are great blocks to find. i know kano has hit a few with over 1 btc of fees.

bitmine49

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Quote from: clgrissom3 on March 07, 2016, 03:32:34 PM

Quote from: bitmine49 on March 07, 2016, 03:18:59 PM

Thanks for the reply. It does seem that 1 - a min transaction should be part of the block. or just a 5 hr ban from mining (including pools) when an empty block is mined.

Haha! I long for the day when this could be enforced! Cheesy

I am not only new to Bitcoin mining but bitcoin community as a whole. And holy crap is this and anything related to changes to bitcoin a heated and sensitive debate/discussion.

- Back to kano.is -

clgrissom3

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Carl, aka Sonny :)

Quote from: bitmine49 on March 07, 2016, 03:18:59 PM

Thanks for the reply. It does seem that 1 - a min transaction should be part of the block. or just a 5 hr ban from mining (including pools) when an empty block is mined.

Haha! I long for the day when this could be enforced! Cheesy

Legacy2005

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Quote from: Mikestang on March 07, 2016, 03:06:34 PM

Quote from: bitmine49 on March 07, 2016, 11:51:29 AM

I am mining solo via ckpool, but also mine here at kano.is. - I think of kano.is and ckpool as the same thing. Sorry.

Both kano.is and solo.ckpool.org use ckpool, but neither one is ckpool itself if that makes sense. ckpool is open sourced and lots of people use it across the network.

If I had a say in the bitcoin core code I would have implemented minimum transactions to be included in each valid block when the mempool is > 0 (i.e. always).

i think the fact that at the start of the universe of bitcoin there were no transactions therefore they couldnt hardcode a min amount to start with. But hopefully as the blockchain progresses the devs will see that empty blocks are a disease that will kill btc if left unchecked and they will modify the code to force a block to have transactions to be considered valid.

if they implemented this i think we would see a large change in the hash distribution as the large china pools would suddenly become outdated and not producing blocks.

bitmine49

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Thanks for the reply. It does seem that 1 - a min transaction should be part of the block. or just a 5 hr ban from mining (including pools) when an empty block is mined.

Mikestang

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Quote from: bitmine49 on March 07, 2016, 11:51:29 AM

I am mining solo via ckpool, but also mine here at kano.is. - I think of kano.is and ckpool as the same thing. Sorry.

Both kano.is and solo.ckpool.org use ckpool, but neither one is ckpool itself if that makes sense. ckpool is open sourced and lots of people use it across the network.

If I had a say in the bitcoin core code I would have implemented minimum transactions to be included in each valid block when the mempool is > 0 (i.e. always).

clgrissom3

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Carl, aka Sonny :)

Kano and -ck have proven time and time again that your pool software coded smartly and correctly can take those extra milliseconds to pull in max fees as WELL AS be the fastest code out there.

Edit: If those lazy coders on the other pools were just hurting themselves, I'd say just let them wallow in the cesspool they've created and we do our own thing. The problem is the crap they are creating is dragging the bitcoin system down with them with the huge influx of zero fee blocks. We are all feeling the sting of it every time we have to wait hours for confirmations or watch our transactions fail.

Legacy2005

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generally it is lazy coders. The lazyness results in empty blocks because it is easier to code as well as "faster".

when the code is poorly written it takes time to fill the blocks. this time is minute when looked at individually but when you look at that time overall it stacks up.

hawkfish007

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Quote from: jonnybravo0311 on March 07, 2016, 12:20:11 PM

Quote from: hawkfish007 on March 07, 2016, 12:18:23 PM

Quote from: jonnybravo0311 on March 07, 2016, 11:57:31 AM

The short answer is empty blocks are caused by lazy coding shortcuts in pool software.

There is very little incentive for the coders to do their job since empty block still rewards 25 BTC if I am not mistaken.

AntPool keeps the transaction fees, not the 25BTC from the block. Empty block = no transaction fees. They have plenty of incentive.

Unless they are their own customers. Anyways, they should also reap the benefit of extra fees.

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Quote from: hawkfish007 on March 07, 2016, 12:18:23 PM

Quote from: jonnybravo0311 on March 07, 2016, 11:57:31 AM

The short answer is empty blocks are caused by lazy coding shortcuts in pool software.

There is very little incentive for the coders to do their job since empty block still rewards 25 BTC if I am not mistaken.

AntPool keeps the transaction fees, not the 25BTC from the block. Empty block = no transaction fees. They have plenty of incentive.

hawkfish007

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Quote from: jonnybravo0311 on March 07, 2016, 11:57:31 AM

The short answer is empty blocks are caused by lazy coding shortcuts in pool software.

There is very little incentive for the coders to do their job since empty block still rewards 25 BTC if I am not mistaken.

jonnybravo0311

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Mine at Jonny's Pool

The short answer is empty blocks are caused by lazy coding shortcuts in pool software.

bitmine49

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Quote from: Legacy2005 on March 07, 2016, 11:48:04 AM

Quote from: bitmine49 on March 07, 2016, 11:42:08 AM

Very new to bitcoin. Recently got my first miner S7 setup a full node and ckpool. Also renting some hash from NH and pointing it at CK.

How does it work that (looking at last 4 blocks found but BitFury and AntPool) that you can find two blocks within a few minutes/seconds of each other and each be full of transactions?

-- and --

Shouldn't there be a min transactions included in a block?

this is the thread for kano.is pool. the ckpool you mention is here (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/yh-solockpoolorg-2-fee-solo-mining-usade-255-blocks-solved-763510) which is a solo pool. meaning you will only get paid if you find a block.

where as here on kano.is you will get a portion of each block found.

and No there is no min transaction as you have seen in antpool they mine a lot of empty blocks. on Kano all blocks are stuffed full with transactions and those transactions are paid out to the miners.

I got that - sorry, I was wondering how blocks get full of transactions vs. empty blocks. what part of the bitcoin infrastructure controls this?

I am mining solo via ckpool, but also mine here at kano.is. - I think of kano.is and ckpool as the same thing. Sorry.

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