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firetreeactual

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Quote from: kano on February 23, 2016, 03:43:01 PM

Quote from: firetreeactual on February 23, 2016, 03:31:59 PM

Quote from: cavaliersrus on February 23, 2016, 02:08:59 PM

hey kano some reason my s2 on your firmware is running better and cooler temps on my boards same temperature in the room

my boards was between 50-55C and now there between 46-50c

My old S2 runs hot, and I've had to mod it to keep it running at 60 or so. Can I get a link for the firmware? Should try that.

https://github.com/kanoi/cgminer-binaries/tree/master/AntS2

Way cool. Thank you.

philipma1957

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'The right to privacy matters'

Quote from: E on February 23, 2016, 02:02:46 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on February 23, 2016, 12:30:24 PM

https://blockchain.info/tx/df60741e004f63c13d07eb422f89b3fbc1a2b270cccd35c05d0daeb35af5f20f

now 10 blocks have skipped the .0013 fee transaction due to it having 52 small parts of coin and 3 big parts.
thus 55 parts of coin which takes up space so it gets skipped.

even though the fee is .0013 I got skipped here for this block.

These funds were sent to me and there are 3 big parts in the send about 7.5 and 52 small parts around 0.05

This is tough as small payments take up space and the large fee of .0013 is not big enough.

I know you understand all of the following, and your comment is about daily vs. blockly payouts, but even in this case (55 inputs) the fee is really reasonable:

Your transaction was over 11KB -- suggested fee for inclusion in next 0-1 blocks is sat50/byte, or 0.0057 for your transaction. That's about 0.07% of the transaction amount.

Your included fee of 0.0013 is sat11/byte, which 21.co currently estimates means a delay of around 14 blocks.

It's a change from the past, I agree -- and I am a 2MB HF now supporter, running a Classic node since 3 Feb, but I think your original fee was too low for the market conditions.

So I got caught on sends due to this more then once. So I know to send high fees when the coin in my wallet is 35 or 50 x .01 from mining here.

A lot of of people sending to me don't know this issue so they send decent coin and think it is enough. Then everything bogs down for hours or worse sends just fail.

kano

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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4

... and a ckpool (and ckdb) restart about to happen in the next minute.

The ckpool restart is the fixes for the last restart that are rather urgent.
Sorry for the short warning, but it's early morning here now and having done the payouts, I need to get this update in there now also.

kano

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Quote from: firetreeactual on February 23, 2016, 03:31:59 PM

Quote from: cavaliersrus on February 23, 2016, 02:08:59 PM

hey kano some reason my s2 on your firmware is running better and cooler temps on my boards same temperature in the room

my boards was between 50-55C and now there between 46-50c

My old S2 runs hot, and I've had to mod it to keep it running at 60 or so. Can I get a link for the firmware? Should try that.

https://github.com/kanoi/cgminer-binaries/tree/master/AntS2

kano

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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4

For those waiting on them and wondering where they were:

Payouts 399612 and 399633 sent (about 30 minutes ago)
c1c848938edf937a940d10ea0328f467defed7d20a2370e01185ee373c2f837c
5a18606bacc80bcc24713995b58540d73771727a24ee283cccf055eeb6b144fa

awaiting confirm e.g. a block by us

I had to build a new bitcoind from scratch at home.
Not the wallet, but my main one at home, with no wallet, that talks to the internet.

The first 300k blocks were quick, then it slowed down ...

First 100k took 8 minutes
100k - 200k took 13 minutes
200k - 250k took 17 minutes
250k - 298k took 51 minutes
At this point I shut down my desktop and added 2 more fans to the case coz the CPU hit 100C a couple of times Tongue

298k - 353k took 4 hours
353k - 363k took 2 hours
363k - 399.7k took 5.5 hours

Though the overall total of about 13 hours wasn't too bad - since it also has -txindex

firetreeactual

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Quote from: cavaliersrus on February 23, 2016, 02:08:59 PM

hey kano some reason my s2 on your firmware is running better and cooler temps on my boards same temperature in the room

my boards was between 50-55C and now there between 46-50c

My old S2 runs hot, and I've had to mod it to keep it running at 60 or so. Can I get a link for the firmware? Should try that.

cavaliersrus

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hey kano some reason my s2 on your firmware is running better and cooler temps on my boards same temperature in the room

my boards was between 50-55C and now there between 46-50c

E

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Quote from: philipma1957 on February 23, 2016, 12:30:24 PM

https://blockchain.info/tx/df60741e004f63c13d07eb422f89b3fbc1a2b270cccd35c05d0daeb35af5f20f

now 10 blocks have skipped the .0013 fee transaction due to it having 52 small parts of coin and 3 big parts.
thus 55 parts of coin which takes up space so it gets skipped.

even though the fee is .0013 I got skipped here for this block.

These funds were sent to me and there are 3 big parts in the send about 7.5 and 52 small parts around 0.05

This is tough as small payments take up space and the large fee of .0013 is not big enough.

I know you understand all of the following, and your comment is about daily vs. blockly payouts, but even in this case (55 inputs) the fee is really reasonable:

Your transaction was over 11KB -- suggested fee for inclusion in next 0-1 blocks is sat50/byte, or 0.0057 for your transaction. That's about 0.07% of the transaction amount.

Your included fee of 0.0013 is sat11/byte, which 21.co currently estimates means a delay of around 14 blocks.

It's a change from the past, I agree -- and I am a 2MB HF now supporter, running a Classic node since 3 Feb, but I think your original fee was too low for the market conditions.

philipma1957

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'The right to privacy matters'

Quote from: cryptichermit on February 23, 2016, 01:08:48 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on February 23, 2016, 12:30:24 PM

https://blockchain.info/tx/df60741e004f63c13d07eb422f89b3fbc1a2b270cccd35c05d0daeb35af5f20f

now 10 blocks have skipped the .0013 fee transaction due to it having 52 small parts of coin and 3 big parts.
thus 55 parts of coin which takes up space so it gets skipped.

even though the fee is .0013 I got skipped here for this block.

These funds were sent to me and there are 3 big parts in the send about 7.5 and 52 small parts around 0.05

This is tough as small payments take up space and the large fee of .0013 is not big enough.

55 pennies is large fee to send $4,400 ?
Last week I spent $46.00 to wire $1,700 at the bank.
Sticking to .0001 per kb should still assure relatively fast acceptance.

First off I understand the fee mechanism, but many don't..

Many people think 0.0001 or 0.0002 just works.

From your post I am inclined to think you realize BTC size means nothing kb size means everything.

So a 1 btc send consisting of 75 x 0.02 is expensive to send. 0.0013 is too small
While a 25.2 btc send consisting of a confirmed virgin block is cheap to send. 0.0004 will do the trick almost everytime

The problem is a lot of people don't understand this.
Most people do not understand that btc amount means nothing.
Here is one of my kano.is payment addresses:

it has .20453225 in it

https://blockchain.info/address/16yLHLoeyuCLPMXkVpC3gyrRYvwRGwjKJr

that is from 1 avalon6 and is the last 20 rewards from kano.is pool

to empty this and send to someone will cost 0.0004 to 0.0006 due to the fact it is 20 payments or so.

.204 is under 90 bucks and this is why I would like 1 payment a day since it would be 6 payments not 20 plus and sending the coins out would be

0.0002 or 0.0003 tops.

tlhIlwI

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Quote from: philipma1957 on February 23, 2016, 12:30:24 PM

This post rambles but there is a point. If kano pool send out 2 to 4 payments a day to my address in 20 days it is 40 to 80 payments vs 20 payments.

When I go to pay from that wallet all 80 payments will need a big fee to clear.

So I rather 1 daily payment.

This is an example of what I was talking about with pro #2 for daily in my post above. When I was mining 0.1 BTC or more per block this wasn't a big issue, but now that I'm down to 0.01 and sometimes less per block it does add up.

VRobb

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I'm in BTC XTC

Cheers to bitcoinsvoorniks for cracking a block @ 7THs, makes me think my S7 might punch one out for the team someday!

Second, as a loyal member-fanatic of the best pool out there, whatever kano-san decides to do regarding payments is 100% fine by me. I'm so ahead here it's not even funny! Actually it is, HA! Cheesy

Keep calm and mine on!

cryptichermit

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Quote from: philipma1957 on February 23, 2016, 12:30:24 PM

https://blockchain.info/tx/df60741e004f63c13d07eb422f89b3fbc1a2b270cccd35c05d0daeb35af5f20f

now 10 blocks have skipped the .0013 fee transaction due to it having 52 small parts of coin and 3 big parts.
thus 55 parts of coin which takes up space so it gets skipped.

even though the fee is .0013 I got skipped here for this block.

These funds were sent to me and there are 3 big parts in the send about 7.5 and 52 small parts around 0.05

This is tough as small payments take up space and the large fee of .0013 is not big enough.

55 pennies is large fee to send $4,400 ?
Last week I spent $46.00 to wire $1,700 at the bank.
Sticking to .0001 per kb should still assure relatively fast acceptance.

Herv12

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Quote from: tlhIlwI on February 23, 2016, 11:04:16 AM

Regarding payouts, here's my quick thoughts on it:

Pros of daily payouts:
1 - Less time spent entering payouts into my mining spreadsheet
2 - Smaller transactions out of my wallet when I spend the coins (since my mining is rapidly becoming a smaller and smaller % of the pool I'm looking at hundreds of smaller inputs versus a few dozen larger ones)
3 - Less transaction fee overhead for the pool

Pros of the current per block payout:
1 - Pool holds coins longer and thus more risk
2 - Easy to match blocks to payments in my records (though that really isn't entirely necessary-- I just like knowing I have that data)

Overall, I lean toward the daily payout preference.

Heck, I am for the weekly payment, I feel very lonely! Grin

You have also the person who does not receive payment of the night as the smartphone app of its ledger rings at each BTC entrance and it wakes .... Grin

And of course take into account time zones!

To make everyone happy, kano will have at least a month of work to write the soft!

I do not know if you like to receive whose amount Payment small but me it pollutes my ledger, and it makes them impossible audits.
The proposal made kano is good, but if it is possible to adjust the automatic payment threshold and have a manual trigger, that would be great

However, I understand that kano does not want to keep too much BTC on its pool, it attracts hackers.

PPOC

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Quote from: philipma1957 on February 23, 2016, 12:30:24 PM

nice to get a block

https://blockchain.info/block-height/399738

not nice to have my transaction miss this block

https://blockchain.info/tx/df60741e004f63c13d07eb422f89b3fbc1a2b270cccd35c05d0daeb35af5f20f

now 10 blocks have skipped the .0013 fee transaction due to it having 52 small parts of coin and 3 big parts.
thus 55 parts of coin which takes up space so it gets skipped.

even though the fee is .0013 I got skipped here for this block.

These funds were sent to me and there are 3 big parts in the send about 7.5 and 52 small parts around 0.05

This is tough as small payments take up space and the large fee of .0013 is not big enough.

This is fund sent to me so I can not control the fee. and the sender did a large fee .0013

This post rambles but there is a point. If kano pool send out 2 to 4 payments a day to my address in 20 days it is 40 to 80 payments vs 20 payments.

When I go to pay from that wallet all 80 payments will need a big fee to clear.

So I rather 1 daily payment.

I agree with Philip, I am voting for a once per day payment.

mtmining2

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I too believe that once a day would be better, not much point in saturating an already saturated network with additional transactions... unless it causes some undue security risk with the wallets of course

clgrissom3

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Carl, aka Sonny :)

Nice job bitcoinsvoorniks with 7THs hitting your 2nd kano.is block! We've had quite a few normal sized miners to hit blocks lately!

philipma1957

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'The right to privacy matters'

nice to get a block

https://blockchain.info/block-height/399738

not nice to have my transaction miss this block

https://blockchain.info/tx/df60741e004f63c13d07eb422f89b3fbc1a2b270cccd35c05d0daeb35af5f20f

now 10 blocks have skipped the .0013 fee transaction due to it having 52 small parts of coin and 3 big parts.
thus 55 parts of coin which takes up space so it gets skipped.

even though the fee is .0013 I got skipped here for this block.

These funds were sent to me and there are 3 big parts in the send about 7.5 and 52 small parts around 0.05

This is tough as small payments take up space and the large fee of .0013 is not big enough.

This is fund sent to me so I can not control the fee. and the sender did a large fee .0013

This post rambles but there is a point. If kano pool send out 2 to 4 payments a day to my address in 20 days it is 40 to 80 payments vs 20 payments.

When I go to pay from that wallet all 80 payments will need a big fee to clear.

So I rather 1 daily payment.

firetreeactual

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Quote from: bctmke on February 23, 2016, 11:24:34 AM

I don't mind either way from a payout perspective.

I'm good with daily or every block like you currently are.

I think doing what is right for yourself is the way to go. This way it'll allow you to focus on other areas of the pool that might need more work or enhancement.

If that means a single payment daily - go for it. If that means keeping the status quo - then thats great too.

I feel pretty much the same. This is my "job." It could be 20 blocks to record a day and I would not mind. It's money in my retirement fund.

Do what makes sense for you on payouts, Kano. We'll manage.

What is relied upon more is your vision, experience, expertise, and coding, which few of us could likely approach in level. That is much appreciated.

ATCkit

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Quote from: Legacy2005 on February 23, 2016, 10:21:25 AM

im fine with however you end up doing the payouts. You know whats best for you and the pool and trust your judgement/decision. You will never make 100% of the people happy with how its done so do what you feel is best.

Ditto

bctmke

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I don't mind either way from a payout perspective.

I'm good with daily or every block like you currently are.

I think doing what is right for yourself is the way to go. This way it'll allow you to focus on other areas of the pool that might need more work or enhancement.

If that means a single payment daily - go for it. If that means keeping the status quo - then thats great too.

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