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Topic: KanoPool kano.is lowest 0.9% fee 🐈 since 2014 - Worldwide - 2432 blocks - page 175. (Read 5352633 times)

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1xA921 + 1xA741 + Backup-->1xA6 ;)
You have demonstrated several times that here, in this thread, there is no freedom of speech. How the hell you can use this thread to insult people and companies?

...and exercising their freedom of speech...
Good point. Kano shouldn't lose his freedom of speech just because it's his thread...

Example of the tables being turned:
1) Grog starts his own thread and/or invites people to his house
2) People go there and make false statements about him and his business
3) Grog openly refutes their statements with supporting facts, logic, and reasoning and threatens to kick them out
4) The people tell him not to suppress their freedom of speech
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4 s9's 2 821's
Epic Sunday afternoon conversation, but...

We need more blocks!

MINE ON!!!

Edit: The most surprising info was that the ckpool is now 150PH! Wow... Wasn't it just 10x less?! Weird.


All from Halong miners, one miner is 50+PH    I have a friend's couple of miners on there to make a comparison, so I'm keeping an eye on it.


But for now, it's time to MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN!
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You have demonstrated several times that here, in this thread, there is no freedom of speech. How the hell you can use this thread to insult people and companies?

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... and exercising their freedom of speech.


Grog! on Ignore in 3, 2, 1....
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Math doesn't care what you believe.

You say that you will delete my posts...

You insult other pool miners, saying they are stupid in a thread that you own
You say that Halong are Scammers... in a thread that you own
You say that ckpool's code if fucked... in a thread that you own

In this thread that you own you rule and delete whatever you like. You have demonstrated several times that here, in this thread, there is no freedom of speech. How the hell you can use this thread to insult people and companies?

YOU should be deleted and banned!!!


Or perhaps consider that Kano has more experience with -ck code than you are, and has vastly more experience creating and running a fair pool.  Maybe, just maybe, consider that he is right and your too inexperienced to know it.
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1xA921 + 1xA741 + Backup-->1xA6 ;)
Epic Sunday afternoon conversation, but...

We need more blocks!

MINE ON!!!

Edit: The most surprising info was that the ckpool is now 150PH! Wow... Wasn't it just 10x less?! Weird.
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Carl, aka Sonny :)
Where is that grog-nore button...
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I give reasons and you tell me I don't.

You say I'm not allowing them to post ... um when did that happen?

You're wasting my time, I'll just be deleting the rest of your posts.

Post somewhere else.
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You have demonstrated several times that here, in this thread, there is no freedom of speech. How the hell you can use this thread to insult people and companies?

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#takeminingback
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Basically, I'm wasting my time with this.
Provide valid information or I'll simply delete your posts.
Your line of posts so far have been trying to trash me and this pool and failing.
3 posts is enough.

You say that you will delete my posts...

You insult other pool miners, saying they are stupid in a thread that you own
You say that Halong are Scammers... in a thread that you own
You say that ckpool's code if fucked... in a thread that you own

In this thread that you own you rule and delete whatever you like. You have demonstrated several times that here, in this thread, there is no freedom of speech. How the hell you can use this thread to insult people and companies?

YOU should be deleted and banned!!!




This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic.
legendary
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Basically, I'm wasting my time with this.
Provide valid information or I'll simply delete your posts.
Your line of posts so far have been trying to trash me and this pool and failing.
3 posts is enough.

You say that you will delete my posts...

You insult other pool miners, saying they are stupid in a thread that you own
No that pool said it ... https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Herp%20Derp
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You say that Halong are Scammers... in a thread that you own
and I said why
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You say that ckpool's code if fucked... in a thread that you own
which is the case
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In this thread that you own you rule and delete whatever you like. You have demonstrated several times that here, in this thread, there is no freedom of speech. How the hell you can use this thread to insult people and companies?

YOU should be deleted and banned!!!

LOL you like skipping over information don't you Smiley

I've provided facts - you are just ignoring them and keep posting - so yeah of course I'd delete your posts if you continue doing that Smiley

People (and moderators) delete posts all over this forum all the time - nothing unusual about that Tongue

Lulz about "freedon of speech" - that statement usually shows up when someone is trolling or failing to provide valid information or ignoring what's been posted.
Read the black text in the white header in the top of every page Smiley
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Basically, I'm wasting my time with this.
Provide valid information or I'll simply delete your posts.
Your line of posts so far have been trying to trash me and this pool and failing.
3 posts is enough.

You say that you will delete my posts...

You insult other pool miners, saying they are stupid in a thread that you own
You say that Halong are Scammers... in a thread that you own
You say that ckpool's code if fucked... in a thread that you own

In this thread that you own you rule and delete whatever you like. You have demonstrated several times that here, in this thread, there is no freedom of speech. How the hell you can use this thread to insult people and companies?

YOU should be deleted and banned!!!
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#takeminingback
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1xA921 + 1xA741 + Backup-->1xA6 ;)
Edit: @BSG, Hahaha!!!
Great minds think alike!

Edit: Kano 1...Grog 0
legendary
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Heh - why not continue your misunderstanding and point out that the luck on that pool so far since it started is ... about 84% ... ouch Cheesy

Pool size is also a factor in that - and unfortunately for all very small pools - if their size is too small, and they're not finding multiple blocks per difficulty change, that's bad for their miners.
Another thing 'that' pool hides is the fact that almost everyone mining there so far has lost big time due to difficulty rises.
When blocks cross multiple difficulty boundaries you lose half the total difficulty rise % if the pool luck is 100% ...


I think that pool size was the culprit of that 84%, right? but now for some reason the hashrate in that pool has raised... and luck is expected to reach a normal 100% luck. Is this right?
Well statistically, luck is expected to be 100% on any pool - but yes it takes time and pool size affects the variance in that.
As I said - you could continue your misunderstanding of the statistics and continue your bad argument about bad luck to include his pool also.
I see you very quickly changed your tactic on that one Smiley

I gotta wonder why they are helping Halong scam their customers ...
Well that pool has stated that Halong is burning in a VERY large hash rate.
So the obvious point is that ... is a VERY large hash rate for "Burn In" ...
So it's quite simple actually.
Not sure what your point is.

...His pool code is fucked Smiley so I even have to fix that to enable it Tongue
I'd actually prefer not to, but it seems a lot of people bought the T1s...
Yes the ckpool code is fucked.
He has on multiple occasions committed untested code to his git ... and has on 3 occasions lost blocks on his pools due to not testing his code properly.
The git is borked again.
The current git of ckpool with asicboost added, DOESN'T work in node mode - it crashes.
Nothing new ... ... ...
I did most of my testing (and changes to his code) in pool mode and standard proxy mode since it made it simple to setup the testing to use someone else's miner for as little time as possible.
I finally ran the node mode test to make sure he hadn't borked that ... and yep it didn't work Tongue

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It looks to me weird...

Facts usually don't look weird to most people Smiley

Basically, I'm wasting my time with this.
Provide valid information or I'll simply delete your posts.
Your line of posts so far have been trying to trash me and this pool and failing.
3 posts is enough.
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Heh - why not continue your misunderstanding and point out that the luck on that pool so far since it started is ... about 84% ... ouch Cheesy

Pool size is also a factor in that - and unfortunately for all very small pools - if their size is too small, and they're not finding multiple blocks per difficulty change, that's bad for their miners.
Another thing 'that' pool hides is the fact that almost everyone mining there so far has lost big time due to difficulty rises.
When blocks cross multiple difficulty boundaries you lose half the total difficulty rise % if the pool luck is 100% ...


I think that pool size was the culprit of that 84%, right? but now for some reason the hashrate in that pool has raised... and luck is expected to reach a normal 100% luck. Is this right?

I wonder if is this why you are saying these kind of things:

I gotta wonder why they are helping Halong scam their customers ...

or

...His pool code is fucked Smiley so I even have to fix that to enable it Tongue
I'd actually prefer not to, but it seems a lot of people bought the T1s...

It looks to me weird...

legendary
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Their payout scheme design allows small miners to take BTC from large miners if the small miners are lucky.
It's a gamblers payout scheme.
So basically no one with a lot of hash rate but an idiot would mine there.

Bitcoin is business and livelihood for most miners now, gambling on that is pure stupidity.


Correct me if I am wrong, but: isn't mining very similar to gambling? Your pool stats are strongly affected by the concept LUCK... I think LUCK is the strongest factor affecting the payout (Remember those hard to crack UNLUCKY blocks and all they your miners dancing and eating chicken... BTW, is that stupid?). If you agree  that mining is very similar to gambling then, Why you say that gambling is stupid and yourself is a miner who runs a mining pool forked from the repository of that guy who runs that other pool which you say it is a joke and where only idiot gamblers would mine?

I'm just very much amazed that you can tag people as stupid just because they mine in THAT pool with NO FEE which is reaching now 150+ PH.

I'd wish Minergain.com could add to his web service "that" pool to check if the people mining there are stupids as you claim.
Well ... did you even bother to read the link? (or my post)
It already says they are stupid Tongue

I'm not sure where I said mining on this pool is very similar to gambling.
Feel free to point it out ... or are you just trying to make some point of your post by peppering it with false statements?

In fact your whole post seems to be "I don't know - can someone tell me what I want them to say that's bad about this pool - that will be different to what the available information is"
Why not work it out yourself and present it Smiley

You clearly don't understand the statistics of mining or even looked at this pool's "Blocks" page.
Bitcoin is block based by design, so you probably should learn about Bitcoin also.
Providing a fair payout scheme that helps reduce the variance as much as possible is what this pool does.

If you want a casino - yep both of his pools are best suited to you.
Solo mining is even more of a gamble for anyone without 100PH or so.

Yes we've had bad luck and good luck - but pointing out only the bad luck really is you proving that you are completely biased in your reply.
The long term luck is fine - it's clearly there on the "Blocks" page for anyone who can't work out what should be happening.
Heh - why not continue your misunderstanding and point out that the luck on that pool so far since it started is ... about 84% ... ouch Cheesy

Pool size is also a factor in that - and unfortunately for all very small pools - if their size is too small, and they're not finding multiple blocks per difficulty change, that's bad for their miners.
Another thing 'that' pool hides is the fact that almost everyone mining there so far has lost big time due to difficulty rises.
When blocks cross multiple difficulty boundaries you lose half the total difficulty rise % if the pool luck is 100% ...

... and if you even understand how the payout works in SPLNS you'll realise it is gambling on the luck of your miner.

I'd suggest you actually look into how payouts work and how difficulty works.
Assuming any pool (mine included) gives you a good reward is foolishness - at least look at the information available ... or if there is none and you are happy to risk your mining ... then I guess that's your problem Smiley

However, the stats I provide are quite in your face on the "Blocks" page ...
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