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Probably not bad luck, but it won't help......unless you eat that chicken while wearing a Red thong, how 'bout you give that a try!

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Wow did my mind just ventured into the gutter

I think they want you to choke your chicken or something...  Some myth got started by those that are them

 I eat chicken everyday would that bring bad luck if i start mining here 

The_dreamer.... Tag -you're up.

Alright who needs to eat chicken around here tonight to grab the next block. I had chicken enchiladas for dinner. Do not know if it has to be salad or not.. hopefully we hit this one before it gets to red. Been kinda of a slow start for the month.

Tanks for typing this out.  I appreciate the formation.   I just suspected on payout... I should not have assumed. 

As far as RPI I really like it.  If your using compac sticks I suggest Linux and raspbian on RPI is a form of debian.  It does great with the compac-cgminer package.  If your just using compacs RPI is a pretty good bet.  You really don't need to make it fancy with moitor I just use a monitor to set it then let it run.  Only if power goes do I need to touch it after getting it all runing.

Only thing that you should wait is if you have some U3's.  They are kinda a pain sometimes.  I am hoping the antminer router will host U3's without as many zombies.  But it is not really known.  So if you are using U3's I would wait to see what the router does.  If it's great get it, if not go RPI. If using U3's.

Hey notlist3d

Check out the kano.is site, and at the top right there is a help button and when you hover over it the Payouts button pops out, click there.
It has an excellent description of PPLNS, 5ND.
It is extremely informative by sharing several details but also simple enough people get it. I'm sure in all your mining time you have seen some unique payment systems, and understanding some, well, many great people don't have the patience or some don't have the know how to run it on a calculator, and no offense, don't ask my help for Calc when I have a headche either haha.My daughter loves to help though. We practiced on miner ROI. She had more fun than I did looking at the numbers. :/ badump bump.

Anyway, check that out if you feel like it and if you want to run through it PM or chat sometime I'd be happy to. Kano made it easy to run through when you've done it a bit.
The same goes for anyone else. I am not a mathematical wizard by any means, and I see people here everyday who can probably do a better job on the math, but I can do well enough  

Also, I wanted to pickup a Pi, or something Pi like. I don't mind spending a few more dollars for something which has a tiny bit better hardware, but I also understand you can get into spending some bucks quick when you put a display, etc on them.
Do you or anyone have any advice on which Pi, with all the fixins, or another device which can run anything setup to be run for a Pi, minera and such. I have a couple of other projects I want to learn with one or something like one, I especially like some of the remote monitoring applications and the flexibility of different add on hardware / peripherals.

Gekkoscience compac sticks gave me an even worse bug and the only cure is a stinker. After playing with these sticks for two weeks all I want to do is be a tweaker.

Edited to comment further regarding the 5ND PPLNS
I wanted to give you a short version on payout expectations.
The first payouts are small. I know you said you had sticks here, and what you will see is all of your shares accounted for, and you begin slowly rolling in as far as payouts go BUT the way it normally goes once you are charged up / ramped up over 5ND you begin getting full payouts.
At Kano.is Go to workers then shifts and you will see your shift amount increasing up until you reach your maximum with whatever HW you have on the account.

Now the cool part, really sick surprise I am going to ruin for you. I started here pretty much early this year. I always dig whatever Kano or CK might be talking about something killer and you have seen the amazing payout runs. Well we hit a dry spell after a few months and I am reading all of this old school hopping stuff, where (and maybe you were mining then) but where it looked like it was all good to hop. It was a big thing. Many, many people were regularly hopping from pool to pool. Some had schedules like when the state of X pool reaches V, then move my miners to B pool. Same thing there, define a set of variables, wash repeat. Some payout schemes were so advantageous (and anyone feel free to correct me ) that it was as open as we are talking right now, people would go

So I thought hell lets try it with a little bit of hash. I made a huge mistake and moved a significant amount of my hash to another pool. At first I dug it. I thought the UI had a few more buttons, the statistics were everywhere and we were hitting blocks, every few hours. Then I started realizing how much of the UI I used, the blocks stopped coming in, which I was getting way less of too!
The sick-cool-wonderful thing was I was still getting payouts from Kano. Nice payouts, just about the same for the first few and then tapering off, but they never stopped.

Kano had one of the famous kano streaks and I added up how much I would have made, and I know you shouldn't hop around these days, so I waited, and then boom, another fabulous streak while my new pool payouts were in the gutter but my old kano shares were still popping for me left and right. Wash repeat one more time and I said goodbye and hello with everything back home here.

I have learned low hash is not bad, especially when we have runs like we do. A month or so back man we were at 1.6 or 1.8 and they were dropping in so badass. Low hashrate meant bigger pieces of pie, and it was bomb diggity seeing a whole bitcoin roll in over a day. Obviously my biggest payout amounts, and I appreciate how Kano runs things. Very transparent.

I know you have your sticks, but hey man if you consider even moving one miner over here to test it, I don't think you will be disappointed at all. I think you will feel like home, you just have to give the chicken gods an offering

Seriously, always feel free to hit me up, and I plan on bugging you some as well if I get a Pi soon.

The chicken is in the oven now...

Haha, I've been a vegetarian my whole life (hippy parents), but if I had more miners I would consider eating chicken every day as well.

Just got back in town, and looks like I'm going to be having chicken every night this week!

Time for some sub 100's for sure!

Yeah some under 100% would be nice

Not to tease anyone...

But I'm having a Chicken salad at this lunch break... 

No, it has nothing to do with pool hopping.

If you hop, you will get the same reward on the shares you submit as if you don't hop.

Each share is rewarded in the 5Nd after the share, independent of how many shares you submit or when you mine.

The aim of the 5Nd is to reduce variance.

Edit: 2 things:

1) The biggest reason for using PPLNS rather than Prop, is that with Prop the payout is unfair for long term miners.
Short term miners who hop at 43% diff will be paid a lot more per share on Prop than those who don't hop on Prop.

2) The thing that affects your payout on our pool is "luck"
The factors not related to "luck", but most pools call "luck", are minimal at this pool, much smaller than most pools.
These factors are the ones that affect successfully getting blocks when miners find them.

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Payout 378548 sent
132b1b331f352ed1817f2132f4d84b8fd10444f441354af5015c914ca80b713c
and confirmed 25min ago

The main reasoning is to prevent pool hopping.  That is the purpose of the PPLNS payout system.  You will still get paid the same over time as you would have with proportional.

Thank you for this!  I would have wondered what was happening.  Guess I missed that.

Is this to reward those who stay long term with pool?  Or what is main reasoning?

Don't forget this pool reward at full potential  only after 5x the total share of the current difficulty.

That means you may have to let your u3 1+ week before you get the full reward on your payout!

Happy mining

I'm throwing some U3's over here for a few days for fun.  Figure it will be a fun way to test my results without using to much money in gear.

I'm looking forward to trying this pool though.  Always found it intresting to say the least when it has great time with blocks.   Looks like last few blocks have not been to friendly though.

No, as I said on the previous page, it's not a block at all.

At the moment, until the next diff change, a share has to have a difficulty of >= 60,813,224,039.44034576 to be a block.
Thus in terms of finding a share that will reward everyone, it doesn't matter if the share difficulty is 1,024 or 60,236,096,986.205208 or even 60,813,224,039.44034575, it's still just a share, not a block.

The 'Unworthy' ones are those that have a difficulty below what's required for a block, so don't count as a block.
They were close, within 1%, so ckpool tested them just in case there was some rounding error in the calculations, but they weren't good enough.

My code in ckdb records on the blocks page, ALL shares that were sent to bitcoind to be tested to see if they were blocks.
Thus there can be 3 types on there:
1) Blocks
2) Unworthy
3) Orphans
CKDB assumes all failed shares are orphans, and I can flag anything as 'Unworthy' if that's what it really was.