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Quote from: gecox22 on September 24, 2015, 07:10:26 PM

I think I keep my hardware pretty well maintained. I take them down about every two weeks and clean the fin's check for oil from thermo paste. Just more maintenace for me. But with temps like these think I should over clock them to make out the hash since my power is free? Or would I be shorting the life span of the units?

You should try freq 250 and set the voltage to 0750, you'll see about 500GH/s stable for days, still very cool, and low low HW errors. That's how I run mine.

Check out
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/s3-bm1382-overclocking-with-voltage-setting-883197
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/antminer-s3-batch-6-overclocking-750220
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitmain-antminer-s3-support-and-overclocking-thread-699064

gecox22

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Quote from: kano on September 24, 2015, 10:55:11 PM

Quote from: gecox22 on September 24, 2015, 10:45:40 PM

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Now lets start finding some more blocks. I bet this one is going to be a bright red. Since we had such good luck yesterday.

Fortunately, no matter how good or bad we did yesterday, it will have no effect on the next block.

The 'amusing' side effect of understanding that is to also understand that at any point in time, the next block is expected to be 100% Diff from 'now'.

Even though we've spent over 90% Diff so far, looking for our next block, it doesn't actually affect, in any way whatsoever, when we will find it.

You are correct. I was just speaking in general Since we have such a good day. This block will take for ever. I know how fast we find a block does not account for how long the next one will take. We could find 5 block all in green back to back and the next block would still have just as much chance a the last 5 blocks to be green red or black. It is all a lotto crap shoot.

Thus why people mining on solo can still find a block with a s1 or a s3. The likely hood is slim but there is still a chance.

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Quote from: gecox22 on September 24, 2015, 10:45:40 PM

...
Now lets start finding some more blocks. I bet this one is going to be a bright red. Since we had such good luck yesterday.

Fortunately, no matter how good or bad we did yesterday, it will have no effect on the next block.

The 'amusing' side effect of understanding that is to also understand that at any point in time, the next block is expected to be 100% Diff from 'now'.

Even though we've spent over 90% Diff so far, looking for our next block, it doesn't actually affect, in any way whatsoever, when we will find it.

PPOC

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Quote from: gecox22 on September 24, 2015, 10:45:40 PM

Quote from: kano on September 24, 2015, 10:05:28 PM

It's simply an issue of variance.
Also your time frame is WAY too small to make any judgement of the performance.

The antminer replies with work at the difficulty it's told to mine at.
It doesn't report work done other than the shares it finds.

I guess my difficulty setting is more accurate than bitmain's Tongue

- thus cgminer shows higher variance.
https://github.com/ckolivas/cgminer/blob/master/driver-bitmain.c#L592

It means that the miner is doing less nonce checking work for exactly the same amount of valid shares.
The Paid figure is the shares accepted by the pool over the time you have been submitting shares, so is exactly what a (non-solo) pool will pay you.

It can take a few hours to average out to the actual value.
Yeah I've had a 440GHs show over 500GHs for over an hour.
Again, it's just variance.

Sounds good and thank you for the explanation. Just never seen that much speed before kinda freaked me out.

I trouble shot my second miner for a bit to find out why it was having so many hardware errors. I updated the firmware to match the first one and the loaded the kano binary, and found at a freq of 225 I am getting a x on one of the chips and causes the miner to really slow down. So I took it offline did some minor detailing to it. Looking for oil residue or anything abnormal put it back together stuck it back in run and still have the x . I changed the freq from 225 to 218.75 and it seems to have fixed the issue just lost about 40 ghs. So now I am wondering if my solder connection on 1200 watt power supply are good enough or not. I figured a 1200watt should power both no problem. Maybe I just have a bad solder join or something. I will trouble shoot alittle tomorrow after work and maybe put the funky miner on it own power supply and see how it does. Oh and after backing off the freq the hardware errors back off as well.

Now lets start finding some more blocks. I bet this one is going to be a bright red. Since we had such good luck yesterday.

I am voting that this block will be 168% diff block. We should start a "cast your guess" and closest gets a tip from those that submitted a guess. Keep things fun around here.

gecox22

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Quote from: kano on September 24, 2015, 10:05:28 PM

It's simply an issue of variance.
Also your time frame is WAY too small to make any judgement of the performance.

The antminer replies with work at the difficulty it's told to mine at.
It doesn't report work done other than the shares it finds.

I guess my difficulty setting is more accurate than bitmain's Tongue

- thus cgminer shows higher variance.
https://github.com/ckolivas/cgminer/blob/master/driver-bitmain.c#L592

It means that the miner is doing less nonce checking work for exactly the same amount of valid shares.
The Paid figure is the shares accepted by the pool over the time you have been submitting shares, so is exactly what a (non-solo) pool will pay you.

It can take a few hours to average out to the actual value.
Yeah I've had a 440GHs show over 500GHs for over an hour.
Again, it's just variance.

Sounds good and thank you for the explanation. Just never seen that much speed before kinda freaked me out.

I trouble shot my second miner for a bit to find out why it was having so many hardware errors. I updated the firmware to match the first one and the loaded the kano binary, and found at a freq of 225 I am getting a x on one of the chips and causes the miner to really slow down. So I took it offline did some minor detailing to it. Looking for oil residue or anything abnormal put it back together stuck it back in run and still have the x . I changed the freq from 225 to 218.75 and it seems to have fixed the issue just lost about 40 ghs. So now I am wondering if my solder connection on 1200 watt power supply are good enough or not. I figured a 1200watt should power both no problem. Maybe I just have a bad solder join or something. I will trouble shoot alittle tomorrow after work and maybe put the funky miner on it own power supply and see how it does. Oh and after backing off the freq the hardware errors back off as well.

Now lets start finding some more blocks. I bet this one is going to be a bright red. Since we had such good luck yesterday.

kano

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It's simply an issue of variance.
Also your time frame is WAY too small to make any judgement of the performance.

The antminer replies with work at the difficulty it's told to mine at.
It doesn't report work done other than the shares it finds.

I guess my difficulty setting is more accurate than bitmain's Tongue

- thus cgminer shows higher variance.
https://github.com/ckolivas/cgminer/blob/master/driver-bitmain.c#L592

It means that the miner is doing less nonce checking work for exactly the same amount of valid shares.
The Paid figure is the shares accepted by the pool over the time you have been submitting shares, so is exactly what a (non-solo) pool will pay you.

It can take a few hours to average out to the actual value.
Yeah I've had a 440GHs show over 500GHs for over an hour.
Again, it's just variance.

gecox22

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Just follow the instructions, it's not a firmware, it's an update to any firmware (replaces a few files)
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Pretty easy to do. Thanks for the help there. But now I have a question please see screen shot below of the first miner I updated.

It is reporting I am pushing 500+ ghs. how is that possible? I didnt over clock it or change any settings at all. I just followed the instruction and did a reboot. My pool stats are reporting about 60 ghs under what my miner is reporting. about 445 currently.

I am also running only running this miner with 2 power connectors instead of 4 since I haven't figured out if I need to over clock them or not. Just trying to figured out if I did something wrong or if I am really putting out that much hashing power on a s3 or is something glitched.

After running for a bit it has came down alittle bit around 500 but still seems a big differnce between the two units back to back running off the same power supply. They both are now running the same lastest firmware from bitmain. and only only has been updated to the kano cgminer-binaries.

kano

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Quote from: gecox22 on September 24, 2015, 07:39:09 PM

Quote from: kano on September 24, 2015, 07:18:16 PM

Nah you should be using real miner software - not that crappy bitmain fork

https://github.com/kanoi/cgminer-binaries/tree/master/AntS3

How do I download it? I dont see a download link. Once downloaded do I just update the firmware Like I did my last miner through the flash new firmware?

...

Just follow the instructions, it's not a firmware, it's an update to any firmware (replaces a few files)

gecox22

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Quote from: kano on September 24, 2015, 07:18:16 PM

Nah you should be using real miner software - not that crappy bitmain fork

https://github.com/kanoi/cgminer-binaries/tree/master/AntS3

How do I download it? I dont see a download link. Once downloaded do I just update the firmware Like I did my last miner through the flash new firmware?

[/quote]

I have most of my s5's OC to 400 and do about 1.3th with low errors. But look at you second box and the hw errors are 10 times the other unit. Probably explains the lower hash in the 420 range you are getting. The other unit can probably go to 275, but you will need to make sure all 4 pcie's are plugged in and giving the box at 500 watts. Usually you can use one 750w psu on 2 s3's, but not if you OC.
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I noticed that just a little while ago. I received a new hash board from bitmain but forgot to update the firmware before changing the freq. Once I update it should follow my other one.

I am running both off a 1200 watt server power supply I have a extra for spare I was going to use for the new s3 I am getting next week. Just bought it today. I could buy a third and over clock all of them. at 12 bucks they are cheap.

PPOC

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Quote from: gecox22 on September 24, 2015, 07:10:26 PM

I think I keep my hardware pretty well maintained. I take them down about every two weeks and clean the fin's check for oil from thermo paste. Just more maintenace for me. But with temps like these think I should over clock them to make out the hash since my power is free? Or would I be shorting the life span of the units?
First off after noticing I should probably update the second ones software to match my first one since my first one seems to be running better.

I have most of my s5's OC to 400 and do about 1.3th with low errors. But look at you second box and the hw errors are 10 times the other unit. Probably explains the lower hash in the 420 range you are getting. The other unit can probably go to 275, but you will need to make sure all 4 pcie's are plugged in and giving the box at 500 watts. Usually you can use one 750w psu on 2 s3's, but not if you OC.

kano

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Nah you should be using real miner software - not that crappy bitmain fork

https://github.com/kanoi/cgminer-binaries/tree/master/AntS3

gecox22

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I think I keep my hardware pretty well maintained. I take them down about every two weeks and clean the fin's check for oil from thermo paste. Just more maintenace for me. But with temps like these think I should over clock them to make out the hash since my power is free? Or would I be shorting the life span of the units?
First off after noticing I should probably update the second ones software to match my first one since my first one seems to be running better.

gecox22

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Quote from: carlosmnk on September 24, 2015, 05:09:57 PM

Quote from: Mikestang on September 24, 2015, 12:55:20 PM

Quote from: kano on September 24, 2015, 12:03:30 PM

Quote from: Mikestang on September 24, 2015, 11:49:52 AM

Received my first 3 payments from 2 of my gekkoscience compacs mining with "free" electricity. It's fun that they can earn back some of the btc I spent purchasing them. Only 597 blocks to go before 1 has paid for itself, lol.

Well don't forget 'the reward goes up' each block for the first 5Nd (about 7 days) as you add more shares into the 5Nd range.
So if you've only been mining for e.g. 2 days, you'd expect your block reward to go up to 3.5 times the last reward by the end of 7 days.

Oh yea, I am aware and expect my payments to go up a little, but I know usb sticks really won't ROI, but it's fun to have them here micro-earning with no electricity cost.
Cool

No electricity cost if you use it out of your house (or somewhere you don't pay the electric bill Roll Eyes

)

All My miners run on free electricity, the cool thing is, I started with faucets and earn enough for my first s1 and with that and faucet's made enough for my first s3 then my second and now just purchased my third s3 all from mining and no pocket cash. GOD I love this hobby..

I need to stop buying s'3 and save up for s5's now that the s7 is out.

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Quote from: Mikestang on September 24, 2015, 12:55:20 PM

Quote from: kano on September 24, 2015, 12:03:30 PM

Quote from: Mikestang on September 24, 2015, 11:49:52 AM

Received my first 3 payments from 2 of my gekkoscience compacs mining with "free" electricity. It's fun that they can earn back some of the btc I spent purchasing them. Only 597 blocks to go before 1 has paid for itself, lol.

Well don't forget 'the reward goes up' each block for the first 5Nd (about 7 days) as you add more shares into the 5Nd range.
So if you've only been mining for e.g. 2 days, you'd expect your block reward to go up to 3.5 times the last reward by the end of 7 days.

Oh yea, I am aware and expect my payments to go up a little, but I know usb sticks really won't ROI, but it's fun to have them here micro-earning with no electricity cost.
Cool

No electricity cost if you use it out of your house (or somewhere you don't pay the electric bill Roll Eyes

)

Mikestang

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Quote from: kano on September 24, 2015, 12:03:30 PM

Quote from: Mikestang on September 24, 2015, 11:49:52 AM

Received my first 3 payments from 2 of my gekkoscience compacs mining with "free" electricity. It's fun that they can earn back some of the btc I spent purchasing them. Only 597 blocks to go before 1 has paid for itself, lol.

Well don't forget 'the reward goes up' each block for the first 5Nd (about 7 days) as you add more shares into the 5Nd range.
So if you've only been mining for e.g. 2 days, you'd expect your block reward to go up to 3.5 times the last reward by the end of 7 days.

Oh yea, I am aware and expect my payments to go up a little, but I know usb sticks really won't ROI, but it's fun to have them here micro-earning with no electricity cost.
Cool

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Quote from: Mikestang on September 24, 2015, 11:49:52 AM

Quote from: kano on September 24, 2015, 09:32:27 AM

Payout 375816 sent
3410a30b33bc47825b6790b2b097c379807fb053c62b26566c6b5067465fcb20
and confirmed

Received my first 3 payments from 2 of my gekkoscience compacs mining with "free" electricity. It's fun that they can earn back some of the btc I spent purchasing them. Only 597 blocks to go before 1 has paid for itself, lol.

Well don't forget 'the reward goes up' each block for the first 5Nd (about 7 days) as you add more shares into the 5Nd range.
So if you've only been mining for e.g. 2 days, you'd expect your block reward to go up to 3.5 times the last reward by the end of 7 days.

kano

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Quote from: p3yot33at3r on September 24, 2015, 09:30:29 AM

PM sent

Oh also I thought of another thing a bit later:
You should give your miners worker names, so it's easier to see which ones are connecting and disconnecting.
e.g.
1KanoiBupPiZfkwqB7rfLXAzPnoTshAVmb.AntS9-156
1KanoiBupPiZfkwqB7rfLXAzPnoTshAVmb.AntS9-213
(using your address of course ...)

Then when they connect, the logs will show which one is doing what
... and 'when' you find a block, the block table will say which one found it

Mikestang

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Quote from: kano on September 24, 2015, 09:32:27 AM

Payout 375816 sent
3410a30b33bc47825b6790b2b097c379807fb053c62b26566c6b5067465fcb20
and confirmed

Received my first 3 payments from 2 of my gekkoscience compacs mining with "free" electricity. It's fun that they can earn back some of the btc I spent purchasing them. Only 597 blocks to go before 1 has paid for itself, lol.

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Welp, after some repairs and some adjustments, I'm back. Lower hashrate but more efficient. Now let's get some more green on the block table.

kano

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Payout 375816 sent
3410a30b33bc47825b6790b2b097c379807fb053c62b26566c6b5067465fcb20
and confirmed

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