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aarons6

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Quote from: littles5 on July 08, 2015, 08:51:47 PM

status: 95 confirmations
Date: 7/8/2015 08:25
From: unknown
To: 1DxcfrdkZaQB9wtdg6nsRKDvsFu56pVtKk (own address, label: miner)
Credit: 0.00081769 BTC
Net amount: +0.00081769 BTC
Transaction ID: 4763791efdf8586832489218a42c210112970c25fb82eae8097cd75e0a6f25dd-000 this is all I can find out about it still new to this.

yep it was your first pool payout..

littles5

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status: 95 confirmations
Date: 7/8/2015 08:25
From: unknown
To: 1DxcfrdkZaQB9wtdg6nsRKDvsFu56pVtKk (own address, label: miner)
Credit: 0.00081769 BTC
Net amount: +0.00081769 BTC
Transaction ID: 4763791efdf8586832489218a42c210112970c25fb82eae8097cd75e0a6f25dd-000 this is all I can find out about it still new to this.

elduderino

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Using some expensive heaters

Quote from: littles5 on July 08, 2015, 07:04:57 PM

sorry if this was already answered in the thread but I got a pay out for 0.00081769 whats this for ?

If it was from the pool's payout address, I'm thinking it was your mining payout?

If not, then:

An anonymous gift?
SPAM dust (did it come with a message)?

littles5

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sorry if this was already answered in the thread but I got a pay out for 0.00081769 whats this for ?

kano

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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4

Quote from: os2sam on July 08, 2015, 04:30:32 PM

Quote from: ZACHM on July 08, 2015, 04:25:47 PM

Yes if we get blocks fast enough then the higher hashrate helps, but overall the payout is higher with the lower pool hashrate. Really it all comes back to Luck.

Yes it comes back to LUCK. But in the long haul the higher hash rate with more payouts, at a lower amount per payout, will win out over lower hash rate with fewer but larger payouts. You can't count on good luck runs, even though they are very nice when they happen.

Higher hash rate + lower payouts vs lower hash rate + higher payouts

They will average out the same.

Statistics says so - you don't have to believe me Tongue

However, when the hash rate dropped last time, the pool luck increased at the same time.
Of course they are not cause and effect, it was luck, but it was good to see that happen.

Edit: and I will add Tongue

Bitclub has the worst luck on the pool of anyone ...
Within expected values, and he has found 3 blocks, but none-the less it is true he has had very bad luck on the pool.
I wasn't expecting him to return, and I doubt he will return again.

pekatete

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The one best reason for mining on PPLNS pools is its archille's for those that stay firm when the going gets tough, but generally, the less hash (for the duration of after the 500% nth of the hopper), the better and more earnings for those who stay, with the correct minimum amount of luck (which we are assured levels out in the medium to long term anyway!).
So I concur with the jomba who says earnings increase ...... my 2 natoshis!

Mikestang

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You're only looking at 30 days and then putting a spin on it. More hash = more blocks, always. Play with the numbers all you like and read into them what you may, but if you're rooting for less hash power you're on the wrong team.

ZACHM

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Quote from: Mikestang on July 08, 2015, 04:34:13 PM

Quote from: ZACHM on July 08, 2015, 04:25:47 PM

but overall the payout is higher with the lower pool hashrate.

That is one of the dumbest things I've read in a while for many reasons, primarily the biggest factor in solving blocks is hash rate. More hash = more blocks = more btc in your wallet.

Otherwise you may want to tell these megapools, like Antpool, that they're killing their income with all that hash power.
Roll Eyes

I'm just looking at the payouts over the last 30 days. Compare the average daily payout when the hashrate was lower to when it was higher. The payout per TH averaged higher with the lower pool hashrate.

I agree it sounds stupid, but that is what the numbers are showing. Basically we just been a very lucky pool.

If we keep the hashrate higher for a longer time frame I am sure the payout average will come back up and surpass what it was at the lower hashrate. But when we get higher hashrate for short periods of time it does not help the overall average.

The more hash = more blocks only applies because it increases your odds of finding the correct hash. It still comes down to luck.

If you go to ckpoolmonitor.zachmonroe.com/index2.php you can see the daily all the way back to January 10th.

Mikestang

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Quote from: ZACHM on July 08, 2015, 04:25:47 PM

but overall the payout is higher with the lower pool hashrate.

That is one of the dumbest things I've read in a while, the biggest (only) factor in solving blocks is hash rate. More hash = more blocks = more btc in your wallet.

Otherwise you may want to tell these megapools, like Antpool, that they're killing their income with all that hash power.
Roll Eyes

os2sam

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Think for yourself

Quote from: ZACHM on July 08, 2015, 04:25:47 PM

Yes if we get blocks fast enough then the higher hashrate helps, but overall the payout is higher with the lower pool hashrate. Really it all comes back to Luck.

Yes it comes back to LUCK. But in the long haul the higher hash rate with more payouts, at a lower amount per payout, will win out over lower hash rate with fewer but larger payouts. You can't count on good luck runs, even though they are very nice when they happen.

ZACHM

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Quote from: os2sam on July 08, 2015, 04:14:10 PM

Quote from: sorry2xs on July 08, 2015, 09:37:09 AM

well the vanishing hash helps my bottom line

I don't see how. Fewer block solves means fewer payouts.

Take a look at ckpoolmonitor.zachmonroe.com and see what the average payouts work out to.
Yes if we get blocks fast enough then the higher hashrate helps, but overall the payout is higher with the lower pool hashrate. Really it all comes back to Luck.

os2sam

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Think for yourself

Quote from: sorry2xs on July 08, 2015, 09:37:09 AM

well the vanishing hash helps my bottom line

I don't see how. Fewer block solves means fewer payouts.

ZACHM

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Leave the diff setting blank and let the pool auto adjust it for you, it knows what it is doing.

SergES

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Do not worry? Previously, kano.is "workers" show hashrate higher 5 Ths, now less 5 Ths and many "Inv Diff".

And what diff better for S1, S3, S5....Thanks

ZACHM

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Quote from: SergES on July 08, 2015, 01:23:09 PM

SKPool Workers
SergES.2   8.192k   5s   2,144   17,563,648   0.649%   0.240%   4.08THs
SergES.4   4.096k   39s   484   1,982,464   0.206%   0.027%   393.80GHs
SergES.1   4.096k   3min   483   1,978,368   0.000%   0.027%   317.99GHs
SergES.3   1.024k   7s   820   839,680   0.122%   0.011%   159.18GHs

SergES.4 and SergES.1 - antminer S3, kano.is shows day 300-400 Ghs, SKPool Monitor shows 500-600 Ghs, i do not understand why.

What you are seeing on the worker page on kano.is is a 1 hour average.
The number on ckpoolmonitor is a 5 minute average.

Mikestang

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Probably had his feelings hurt when their 2PH left. Cry

But I'm sure he knows everything about their situation and is not jumping to any conclusions or anything Roll Eyes

. Don't burn bridges.

xZork

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Bitclub??? 1 block. Cheers, don't come back.

Why would you say that?

SergES

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SKPool Workers
SergES.2   8.192k   5s   2,144   17,563,648   0.649%   0.240%   4.08THs
SergES.4   4.096k   39s   484   1,982,464   0.206%   0.027%   393.80GHs
SergES.1   4.096k   3min   483   1,978,368   0.000%   0.027%   317.99GHs
SergES.3   1.024k   7s   820   839,680   0.122%   0.011%   159.18GHs

SergES.4 and SergES.1 - antminer S3, kano.is shows day 300-400 Ghs, SKPool Monitor shows 500-600 Ghs, i do not understand why.

ZACHM

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Quote from: SergES on July 08, 2015, 12:11:46 PM

SKPool Monitor and SKPool Workers - very different data, very much.

I assume you meant CKPool?
But, I'm not sure I understand the problem.
Are you saying that the hashrate shown on ckpoolmonitor.zachmonroe.com does not match what is shown on kano.is?

I checked hashrates on kano.is and ckpool monitor every five minutes for a little while and here is what I got:

Check	kano.is	ckpoolmonitor
1	4.79	4.79
2	4.69	4.91
3	4.83	4.84
4	4.90	4.85
5	4.61	4.61

I would say those numbers are pretty close. I will vary a little because CKPoolMonitor only grabs the info every 5 minutes and I believe that kano.is shows a rolling 5 minute average. But for the most part they should be pretty close.

SergES

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SKPool Monitor and SKPool Workers - very different data, very much.

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