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jr. member
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Last Share (w_lastshare) for a worker.
If it's more than 120 seconds old then the miner isn't sending shares to the pool any more.
Yes, I read the description you posted some time ago, and I fully agree - it's a great way to see if a miner went offline for any reason. But it won't let me see if a miner lost some power (i.e. due to a failed hash board).

That's why I would like to check for the hashrate, as (under the normal conditions) the hashrate is expected to be at about the same level - at least it shouldn't drop significantly. Hence, my question of whether I understand the meaning of w_hashrate5m / w_hashrate1h / w_hashrate24hr properly (I guess I don't).
legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
I'm curious about the monthly stats, 4th column, "expected". It's been at 3.03 for 4 days now. Is it only going to update when we hit a block,  like the way may didn't show until a block? Surely in 4 days our expectations would rise.


Yes, when we hit the next block (assuming in the next 24 hours), it'll jump the expected to 4-5+...part of the reason why Feb looks so "good" is that we never found a last block during the end of that month, so the expected never changed.  
Ah. That's illuminating thanks. I hadn't caught the Feb thing. That's April too then a little bit if I understand correctly.
Edit- no just one day for April
It's the first block for every month.
It's not a mathematical anomaly caused by some specific choice - it's random.

The Monthly table is the blocks found during that month.
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
I have a question about the pool API. The workers data contains w_hashrate5m / w_hashrate1h / w_hashrate24hr fields. I thought that's the average hashrate for 5m / 1h / 24h respectively. But I guess I am not exactly right about it. I just faced a situation when my hashing power went down due to a network connectivity. I saw the hashrate numbers declining quickly, and all of them - including the 24hr rate  - went to 0. When network issue was sorted out, the numbers were back to their normal values again - including the 24h value.

I understand the 5m / 1h numbers to change fast when my machines are down. But why does the 24h also drops so quickly ? I didn't measure exact duration of the downtime itself, but it was somewhat around 4 hours. So I expected the 24h hashrate value to reduce by ~20% only...


P.S. I'm just looking for a more-or-less reliable way to get informed when any of my miners are not hashing properly. Right now I have a script calculating the total hashrate (based on 'w_hashrate5m' numbers from the API) and comparing it to a pre-defined value. I also found some very good hints from Kano here - will look into adding that check as well.
Last Share (w_lastshare) for a worker.
If it's more than 120 seconds old then the miner isn't sending shares to the pool any more.
It's a unix timestamp - and the 'current' time of the data is 'STAMP'
So if ((STAMP - w_lastshareacc:NNN) > 120) then workername:NNN needs looking into

Shares are like blocks, only there's a lot more of them.
The worker should average about 18 shares per minute or 3.333 seconds per share.

So using the CDF table (the lower end of the table)
Code:
 0.99995460007024  1000.000%  1 in 22026.5
 0.99999385578765  1200.000%  1 in 162754.8
 0.99999998477002  1800.000%  1 in 65659969.2
 0.99999999996225  2400.000%  1 in 26489113602.6
 1.00000000000000  3600.000%  1 in 4503599627370496.0

... a side note to a person on another pool that recently reminded people of his lack of knowledge here in the past ... LOOK! it's not linear Smiley

A 1000% share is 33.33 seconds and expected 1 in 22026.5 x 3.333 seconds = 73421 seconds = or about 20.4 hours
So there's not much point looking for a 1000% share since it will happen on average a bit more than once a day per miner.

A 1200% share is 40 seconds and expected 1 in 162754.8 x 3.333 seconds = 542516 seconds = or about 6.3 days
So there's not much point looking for a 1200% share either

A 2400% share is 80 seconds and expected 1 in 26489113602.6 x 3.333 seconds = about 2798 years Smiley
Now there is an interesting thing to look at that number Smiley
If you have 2798 miners, then you'd expect it once per year.
If you have 2798*12 miners, then you'd expect it once per month
etc.

A 3600% share is 120 seconds ... and probably never gonna happen no matter how many miners you have Smiley
(4503599627370496.0 x 3.333 = about once every 475 million years)

So if you go for 120 seconds you're sure to know that - given some SPS variance vs 3.333 seconds - any worker that's not submitted a share for 2 minutes (120 seconds) is not submitting shares properly.
(if you have only one proxy or miner connected to that worker)
member
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The only thing that's wrong, is that THIS BLOCK NEEDS TO DIE!
I'm expecting a lot of 100% blocks after this! Grin

I don't think Kano could argue with the veracity of this comment. Wink

I've got good news and bad news ...

The bad news: we're always expecting blocks at 100% from "now"

However, I've got good news too!

1) We always expect blocks at 100%
2) Over time, we expect to be at 100%


MINE ON!
newbie
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I'm curious about the monthly stats, 4th column, "expected". It's been at 3.03 for 4 days now. Is it only going to update when we hit a block,  like the way may didn't show until a block? Surely in 4 days our expectations would rise.


Yes, when we hit the next block (assuming in the next 24 hours), it'll jump the expected to 4-5+...part of the reason why Feb looks so "good" is that we never found a last block during the end of that month, so the expected never changed.  


6 blocks are expected already since the first one was 300 percent unless we hit a block very shortly it will be two 300 percent blocks. 
newbie
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I'm curious about the monthly stats, 4th column, "expected". It's been at 3.03 for 4 days now. Is it only going to update when we hit a block,  like the way may didn't show until a block? Surely in 4 days our expectations would rise.


Yes, when we hit the next block (assuming in the next 24 hours), it'll jump the expected to 4-5+...part of the reason why Feb looks so "good" is that we never found a last block during the end of that month, so the expected never changed.  
Ah. That's illuminating thanks. I hadn't caught the Feb thing. That's April too then a little bit if I understand correctly.
Edit- no just one day for April
member
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4 s9's 2 821's
I'm curious about the monthly stats, 4th column, "expected". It's been at 3.03 for 4 days now. Is it only going to update when we hit a block,  like the way may didn't show until a block? Surely in 4 days our expectations would rise.


Yes, when we hit the next block (assuming in the next 24 hours), it'll jump the expected to 4-5+...part of the reason why Feb looks so "good" is that we never found a last block during the end of that month, so the expected never changed.  
newbie
Activity: 41
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newbie
Activity: 182
Merit: 0
I'm curious about the monthly stats, 4th column, "expected". It's been at 3.03 for 4 days now. Is it only going to update when we hit a block,  like the way may didn't show until a block? Surely in 4 days our expectations would rise.
member
Activity: 490
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1xA921 + 1xA741 + Backup-->1xA6 ;)
OK, I haven't posted this month and we need some mojo. Mojo, Anime Princess of the East, come and shine the horseshoe of LUCK down upon the Kano Pool. The faithful are here, dressed up and ready. We have our dancing shoes on and have thirst upon our lips, oh Dearest Mojo, send the BLOCK PARTY!!! Mine On With Kano San!!!
Block-yeah!
Ing-yeah!
Party-yeah!

Block-ing-party-yeah!
member
Activity: 490
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1xA921 + 1xA741 + Backup-->1xA6 ;)
The only thing that's wrong, is that THIS BLOCK NEEDS TO DIE!
I'm expecting a lot of 100% blocks after this! Grin

I don't think Kano could argue with the veracity of this comment. Wink
member
Activity: 210
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OK, I haven't posted this month and we need some mojo. Mojo, Anime Princess of the East, come and shine the horseshoe of LUCK down upon the Kano Pool. The faithful are here, dressed up and ready. We have our dancing shoes on and have thirst upon our lips, oh Dearest Mojo, send the BLOCK PARTY!!! Mine On With Kano San!!!
member
Activity: 658
Merit: 21
4 s9's 2 821's
right now im mining with Slush

390-400 Th/s

What are the rewards with KanoPool ?
Slush has a 2% fee, kano has a .9% fee, so over time you make 1.1% more.

Rewards are per block and based on your hashrate relative to the pools rate and the block reward + transaction fees.
Unless I did something wrong, ~0.02478235 BTC/day (only paid after each block we find matures, though)

Feel free to play around with the #s here (defaults to KanoPool #s):

http://tradebtc.net/bitcalc.php


The only thing that's wrong, is that THIS BLOCK NEEDS TO DIE!


Mine on with Kano-san
member
Activity: 490
Merit: 16
1xA921 + 1xA741 + Backup-->1xA6 ;)
right now im mining with Slush

390-400 Th/s

What are the rewards with KanoPool ?
Slush has a 2% fee, kano has a .9% fee, so over time you make 1.1% more.

Rewards are per block and based on your hashrate relative to the pools rate and the block reward + transaction fees.
Unless I did something wrong, ~0.02478235 BTC/day (only paid after each block we find matures, though)

Feel free to play around with the #s here (defaults to KanoPool #s):

http://tradebtc.net/bitcalc.php
full member
Activity: 658
Merit: 118
right now im mining with Slush

390-400 Th/s

What are the rewards with KanoPool ?


Slush has a 2% fee, kano has a .9% fee, so over time you make 1.1% more.

Rewards are per block and based on your hashrate relative to the pools rate and the block reward + transaction fees.
newbie
Activity: 22
Merit: 0
right now im mining with Slush

390-400 Th/s

What are the rewards with KanoPool ?
jr. member
Activity: 238
Merit: 5
Okay, I sacrificed the biggest damn chicken I could find!  That should work! Cheesy



This does NOT look like a sacrifice...  This looks like molestation!  But hey... if it gets a block...   uhhh.. yeah.. i'll leave that one alone.

Huh, I suspected this was some kind of cult. But I guess I have to get me one of those for my side of molestation Wink
not a cult is ... simple zoophilia, judging by the picture  Grin

Come on guys, the picture was simply posing the turkey tail feather fan.  The personal attack was distasteful and unnecessary.

Sorry Carl but you walk right into that one. I guess we watch too much of SNL Wink
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1032
Carl, aka Sonny :)
Okay, I sacrificed the biggest damn chicken I could find!  That should work! Cheesy



This does NOT look like a sacrifice...  This looks like molestation!  But hey... if it gets a block...   uhhh.. yeah.. i'll leave that one alone.

Huh, I suspected this was some kind of cult. But I guess I have to get me one of those for my side of molestation Wink
not a cult is ... simple zoophilia, judging by the picture  Grin

Come on guys, the picture was simply posing the turkey tail feather fan.  The personal attack was distasteful and unnecessary.
hero member
Activity: 1610
Merit: 538
I'm in BTC XTC
Any good android app for monitoring the workers in pool?
From page 1:
Android App, read in the thread here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11091187
I've used it for a long time.  Not perfect, but works fine enough.
Mine On!  Cool
jr. member
Activity: 76
Merit: 2
I have a question about the pool API. The workers data contains w_hashrate5m / w_hashrate1h / w_hashrate24hr fields. I thought that's the average hashrate for 5m / 1h / 24h respectively. But I guess I am not exactly right about it. I just faced a situation when my hashing power went down due to a network connectivity. I saw the hashrate numbers declining quickly, and all of them - including the 24hr rate  - went to 0. When network issue was sorted out, the numbers were back to their normal values again - including the 24h value.

I understand the 5m / 1h numbers to change fast when my machines are down. But why does the 24h also drops so quickly ? I didn't measure exact duration of the downtime itself, but it was somewhat around 4 hours. So I expected the 24h hashrate value to reduce by ~20% only...


P.S. I'm just looking for a more-or-less reliable way to get informed when any of my miners are not hashing properly. Right now I have a script calculating the total hashrate (based on 'w_hashrate5m' numbers from the API) and comparing it to a pre-defined value. I also found some very good hints from Kano here - will look into adding that check as well.
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