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Math doesn't care what you believe.

Th firmware thing must be it.  I use the latest and greatest at the Canaan site:

https://canaan.io/firmware-releases/

Now that I read it it does seem oriented to the 7XX series.   Does anyone have a different link?

(specifically, I used openwrt-brcm2708-bcm2710-rpi-3-ext4-sdcard )

Thanks again!!


https://canaan.io/downloads/software/avalon821/openwrt/20180305/

Or Google "Canaan 841 firmware download"

Note that 821s and 841s use the same firmware.

jr. member
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Controller Green - good, Miners should be Blue though.  Did you burn 841 firmware for the Pi?

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Are you using the same controller (PI) The 841's have a different controller firmware that needs to be flashed onto the PI.

Also if you do have that set properly, did you try switching the cables around you are using to Daisy Chain them, it might be that the first one in the chain is defective. This was just a guess because I don't think the miner lights would be green if this was the case. EDIt: Got my colours switched up might be the cable since this is "idle"



Th firmware thing must be it.  I use the latest and greatest at the Canaan site:

https://canaan.io/firmware-releases/

Now that I read it it does seem oriented to the 7XX series.   Does anyone have a different link?

(specifically, I used openwrt-brcm2708-bcm2710-rpi-3-ext4-sdcard )

Thanks again!!
newbie
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If you mine with solar power on batteries you will almost always come out worse off than if you just bought the power at residential retail rates. You have to factor in wear and tear on the batteries - which by itself can be greater than just buying the electricity. On another note - if mining on solar power skip the inverters and power supplys and use direct current DC converters.

Great in theory, hard in practice due to the wire gauges involved in carrying the current to your miner.  Math:  13.5Th at 0.098w/GH = 1323 watts at 12V = 110.25 amps.  Would you really be willing to run 00 gauge wire to each miner and then break that down to (9) 6-pin connectors?

That's exactly what I wana do!  I was going to make a pair of 10ga dongles (one + one - yes) connected to the three + and three - wires of the 6 pin, then run ten such dongles(?is that the term?  its fun to say!) to each miner.  Connect the 10ga to a buss built off my battery bank and provide grid assist w/a regular battery charger.  Think it'll work?  Dont need heavier gauges except for the battery bank buss
legendary
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I have a problem that seems odd, and probably isn't related to the pool or my configuration related to the pool but I thought I would start here.

So I have a brand new set-up.   4 Avalon 841s daisy chained to one AUC3 hooked to one raspberry PI 3 controller.  I have nothing but love from all the lights on all the equipment:  All green(controller, miners, and AUC3) and all fans spin up just fine.   The controller doesn't see any of the miners tho )-:    There is nothing in the Pi logs insofar as errors are concerned.  

The pool website shows my worker uptime as reasonable (since I powered up the controller) and I changed nothing in my configuration from my previous setup with an Avalon 741 which worked fine.   I reset all the little serial connectors and even tried to connect just one miner with no success.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

Are you using the same controller (PI) The 841's have a different controller firmware that needs to be flashed onto the PI.

Also if you do have that set properly, did you try switching the cables around you are using to Daisy Chain them, it might be that the first one in the chain is defective. This was just a guess because I don't think the miner lights would be green if this was the case. EDIt: Got my colours switched up might be the cable since this is "idle"

copper member
Activity: 658
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Math doesn't care what you believe.
I have a problem that seems odd, and probably isn't related to the pool or my configuration related to the pool but I thought I would start here.

So I have a brand new set-up.   4 Avalon 841s daisy chained to one AUC3 hooked to one raspberry PI 3 controller.  I have nothing but love from all the lights on all the equipment:  All green(controller, miners, and AUC3) and all fans spin up just fine.   The controller doesn't see any of the miners tho )-:    There is nothing in the Pi logs insofar as errors are concerned.   

The pool website shows my worker uptime as reasonable (since I powered up the controller) and I changed nothing in my configuration from my previous setup with an Avalon 741 which worked fine.   I reset all the little serial connectors and even tried to connect just one miner with no success.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

Controller Green - good, Miners should be Blue though.  Did you burn 841 firmware for the Pi?
jr. member
Activity: 54
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I have a problem that seems odd, and probably isn't related to the pool or my configuration related to the pool but I thought I would start here.

So I have a brand new set-up.   4 Avalon 841s daisy chained to one AUC3 hooked to one raspberry PI 3 controller.  I have nothing but love from all the lights on all the equipment:  All green(controller, miners, and AUC3) and all fans spin up just fine.   But I seem to remember a blue light that I don't see on the AUC3 and the controller doesn't see any of the miners tho )-:    There is nothing in the Pi logs insofar as errors are concerned.  

The pool website shows my worker uptime as reasonable (since I powered up the controller) and I changed nothing in my configuration from my previous setup with an Avalon 741 which worked fine.   I reset all the little serial connectors and even tried to connect just one miner with no success.

Any ideas?

Thanks!
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I'm in the east coast of the US.  Is this the best setup?

primary: stratum+tcp://nya.kano.is:3333
2nd stratum+tcp://stratum.kano.is:3333
Looks good Smiley
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 What would happen if someone didn't use the most optimal stratum? Just curious and trying to learn how things work, Thanks!
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Using the closest Server (lowest ping) ensures the work your miners are given and return use the fastest path to do it. They say in life, timing is everything. Ping each of the servers and use the Top 3 fastest ones.

MINE-ON WITH KANO-SAN
hero member
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I'm in BTC XTC
You might get a few more invalids, but all of Kano's pool nodes are rippin' fast!  Just don't point to one on the other side of the globe!  Shocked
Mine On!  Cool
newbie
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I'm in the east coast of the US.  Is this the best setup?

primary: stratum+tcp://nya.kano.is:3333
2nd stratum+tcp://stratum.kano.is:3333
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Looks good Smiley
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 What would happen if someone didn't use the most optimal stratum? Just curious and trying to learn how things work, Thanks!
newbie
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Noooooooooooo pecker!!!!!!!
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That was actually me. I goofed up, but I've received a couple messages saying Bitmain will give it back if I explain to them and I did so we will see.
If you have another coupon though.....I'm looking for 2 over $400 towards S9's FOR KANO POOL ONLY!! I will also donate an S7 running on Kano to another willing member pledging to keep it on Kano. All I need are 2 more coupons @ $400+ each. Just 2 more!!
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PM me and I'll let you know what I got...

Bitmain is on vacation according to their website, lol  (some kind of holiday festival until April 8th or April 9th)...

Pecker
jr. member
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Antpool is having some problems and more and more people are switching to Kano.is

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855548.1900;topicseen
jr. member
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Noooooooooooo pecker!!!!!!!
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That was actually me. I goofed up, but I've received a couple messages saying Bitmain will give it back if I explain to them and I did so we will see.
If you have another coupon though.....I'm looking for 2 over $400 towards S9's FOR KANO POOL ONLY!! I will also donate an S7 running on Kano to another willing member pledging to keep it on Kano. All I need are 2 more coupons @ $400+ each. Just 2 more!!
member
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1xA921 + 1xA741 + Backup-->1xA6 ;)
If you mine with solar power on batteries you will almost always come out worse off than if you just bought the power at residential retail rates. You have to factor in wear and tear on the batteries - which by itself can be greater than just buying the electricity. On another note - if mining on solar power skip the inverters and power supplys and use direct current DC converters.
Great in theory, hard in practice due to the wire gauges involved in carrying the current to your miner.  Math:  13.5Th at 0.098w/GH = 1323 watts at 12V = 110.25 amps.  Would you really be willing to run 00 gauge wire to each miner and then break that down to (9) 6-pin connectors?
So, I suppose that would be more feasible with one of those high voltage miners like a 48v BitFury. Not making a recommendation; just trying to come up with a more practical application.
copper member
Activity: 658
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Math doesn't care what you believe.
If you mine with solar power on batteries you will almost always come out worse off than if you just bought the power at residential retail rates. You have to factor in wear and tear on the batteries - which by itself can be greater than just buying the electricity. On another note - if mining on solar power skip the inverters and power supplys and use direct current DC converters.

Great in theory, hard in practice due to the wire gauges involved in carrying the current to your miner.  Math:  13.5Th at 0.098w/GH = 1323 watts at 12V = 110.25 amps.  Would you really be willing to run 00 gauge wire to each miner and then break that down to (9) 6-pin connectors?
newbie
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Please help, why so many are rejected? and what can be done to fix it? (screenshot) http://prntscr.com/j0b3rd

That's a normal number.  You're fine.


MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN!
Understood thanks!  Smiley
member
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4 s9's 2 821's
Please help, why so many are rejected? and what can be done to fix it? (screenshot) http://prntscr.com/j0b3rd

That's a normal number.  You're fine.


MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN!
newbie
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Please help, why so many are rejected? and what can be done to fix it? (screenshot) http://prntscr.com/j0b3rd
newbie
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Getting excited. Received a notification that my S9 is coming tomorrow rather than next week.

My outlet arrives today so I'll be swapping out a breaker, running a line, and should have everything set up and ready to go as soon as it arrives.

Nice.....BTC
newbie
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Getting excited. Received a notification that my S9 is coming tomorrow rather than next week.

My outlet arrives today so I'll be swapping out a breaker, running a line, and should have everything set up and ready to go as soon as it arrives.
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Holy crap where did my math go wrong on the power, you're 100% correct 800 * 1370 = 1,096,000

Thank you for the info. Once i get passed the business plan ill reach out.

Also chuckled when you said "a warehouse with a roof big enough".   Basic solar math, presuming you want to run on 13.5TH S9, with a real world consumption of around 1450 watts:

* (1) typical panel, lets say a 130W one, will produce about 4 hours of power a day at 80% of its rated rate (since the rated rate is optimal during noon soon in the tropics):  130*0.8*4=416 watts per panel per day
* Each miner therefore requires about 3.5 panels
* 1 megawatts of power = (690) 1450W miners = 2,145 panels at about a square meter each, so call it 21,450 square feet of roof space over a data center that doesn't need to be over 2000 square feet in size, likely larger.

But wait...  Nobody is going it invest that type of money to run miners for 4 hours a day, so lets add batteries and enough panels to run for a full 24 hours:  80% efficient charging batteries = 2145*6/0.8 = 16,100 panels.  So about $2M in panels.  Batteries to carry say, 3 days of clouds, will match that cost.  So now your at $4M.  Oh, but wait again... we only have enough panels to keep ourself running for 24 hours and now, after a cloudy day or three, we need to run AND charge those batteries.  Better double the array size (now $4M and 32,200 panels).  Plus battery chargers, inverters, etc.  Add at least another $2M.  

So, we have $6M in solar infrustructure to run 690 miner at something like $1300 each current pricing (sorry, Bitmain doesn't have 13.5's listed right now, which this math is based on); eg. ~$900K in miners.
At $0.10/kwh, and 1MW of required current, each hour cost $100.  So in about 7 years you will break even.  Except that your batteries will likely have been replaced once in that timeframe and likely be coming due for a second round, at $2M  a pop.  Good news, electronics are likely good for 10-15 years.

Oh, and since we now have 32,200 panels in our little setup, your going to need about 320,000 square feet of south facing roof.  That just a bit over 7 acres ON THE SOUTH SIDE.  So a 640,000 square foot warehouse of which you will be using around 2000 square feet.  Or perhaps you could find a 6000 square foot building and provide about 1% of your power for a mere $60,000 - but why bother.

Granted, you could grid tie, and eliminate the batteries and half the electronics, but then you need to deal with paying retail power rates and likely being credited wholesale power rates.   Not aware of many NEW grid tied solar contracts that allow for reversible meters like they use too.  They electric companies have wised up and paid off the right politicians to protect their turf.

If you mine with solar power on batteries you will almost always come out worse off than if you just bought the power at residential retail rates. You have to factor in wear and tear on the batteries - which by itself can be greater than just buying the electricity. On another note - if mining on solar power skip the inverters and power supplys and use direct current DC converters.
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