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jr. member
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In regards to miner temperature and hashrate variability, here are my findings with my AntMiner S9 after a couple of days:

My miner has stayed within the temperature range of 74 degrees to 78 degrees for the hottest Chip.  When it gets to 78 the fans kick into overdrive and put it down to 74.  If I keep the Antminer S9 in a cooler place, the temps drop a couple of degrees and the fans do not run in overdrive and make much less noise.   I have not seen a difference in hashrate on the S9 Status Screen based on room temperature so far.

The hashrate on the Status screen has been consistently around 13.50 TH/s (Ideal) and 13.68 TH/s (RT).   Not sure what RT means.

Here is my AntMiner S9 Status Screen: https://imgur.com/a/UdaSg

Now, on the pool website, for worker shifts, my hashrate has varied wildly and randomly between 11.15 TH/s and 14.81 TH/s, but the average is around 13.68 TH/s.  
Yeah the miner averages are not exactly the same as the pool accepted share/hash rate.
Since shares themselves are random - though they should average about 18 per minute - they follow exactly the same distribution model as blocks.
Meaning, that sometimes they'll be faster than the average 3.333 seconds and sometime they'll be slower.
The pool only sees shares, and calculates your hash rate per shift, based on the value of those shares and the length of the shift.

So e.g. if you submit S=2300 shares, valued at D=4098 each, during a M=50 minute shift, your hash rate would be S x D * 2^32 / (M * 60)
or 2300 x 4096 x 2^32 / (50 * 60) = 1.349 x 10^13 or about 13.49 THs

Please note that I picked those numbers to make the answer look similar Smiley

Now what really happens is that although there's expected to be around 2300 shares at 13.5THs in a 50 minute shift, there's actually, randomly, more or less than 2300 shares.
That's the share variance that makes the shift graph go up and down.

But the important point is, the shift graph shows you exactly what each shift is worth in terms of Diff - which is what you get rewarded for.
It's not some averaged out value that isn't what you will be rewarded, it's the actual Diff value, and it's expected to vary a bit.

At the moment there's a lot of shifts in the 5Nd payout range, so that variance effect on the total reward is extremely small, but even when we were larger and finding a few blocks a day, that variance is still very small since at e.g. 3 blocks a day, the 5Nd is about 48 shifts.


Thanks for the in depth analysis!   I have also noticed that the shift time is not always 50 minutes, I have seen it vary up to 10%.  Then if a block is found, it looks like a shift terminates early.

jr. member
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In regards to miner temperature and hashrate variability, here are my findings with my AntMiner S9 after a couple of days:

My miner has stayed within the temperature range of 74 degrees to 78 degrees for the hottest Chip.  When it gets to 78 the fans kick into overdrive and put it down to 74.  If I keep the Antminer S9 in a cooler place, the temps drop a couple of degrees and the fans do not run in overdrive and make much less noise.   I have not seen a difference in hashrate on the S9 Status Screen based on room temperature so far.

The hashrate on the Status screen has been consistently around 13.50 TH/s (Ideal) and 13.68 TH/s (RT).   Not sure what RT means.

Here is my AntMiner S9 Status Screen: https://imgur.com/a/UdaSg

Now, on the pool website, for worker shifts, my hashrate has varied wildly and randomly between 11.15 TH/s and 14.81 TH/s, but the average is around 13.68 TH/s.  


I've always understood RT to mean "Real Time" as in what it is currently hashing at that moment, while the other is your average Hashrate over time.
I can't wait to have my shed up with an exhaust fan and some A/C cooling the shed in the summers. These temps in my garage are killing me since it's Arkansas and decided to go from 0 degrees outside last week to mid to upper 50's this weekend and upcoming week. Now I have the garage door cracked outside, and I have the interior garage door opened fully to try and exhaust the heat into the house and it's STILL a little warm for me. As it is it's hitting around 77 and then cooling down and heating back up within 3 - 5 minutes. Rinse, repeat.

Thanks!  RT meaning Real Time makes sense. 

As for keeping it cool in your garage, why can you use a fan to help move the air out? 


newbie
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Hey guys.  I love this pool.  Been with Kano since October.  Reading through this weekend's posts, I saw other people Workers' Shift graph showing individul workers.

Anytime I change the workers' names at the top of the graph, and hit update, thegraph is blank.  How do I customize to show each workers shares rate.
I have 4 S9s. For instance my first S9 is Trippank.S9 , the S9b , S9c and the S9d.  I know, really original.

How do I enter the workers' name in the shift graph?  I have tried entering the S9, S9b ... inthe blanks with no sucess.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Mine on with Kano-san

Tripp

Edit: Ah Crap.  In researching this, I noticed my rate has gone doen the last 5 hours.  Looks like my original S9 has lost a hash board.  I am rebooting now.    I have noticed that the farthest board on the left always has the highest temps of the 3 boards in all my miners.  I am wondering if it is its physical location in the tube and airflow.  I might switch one S9 boards around to see (change location but wiring order the same).
This S9 was my first. A hahs board failed within a week (bought S9 off ebay for $1750.Wish they were still this price).  I sent the bad hash board to bitmain warranty in US.  they fixed for $175 in about two weeks.  Been worinking great since Oct.  Different board this time.
member
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just joined the pool guys, planning to stay 4 weeks at least

GL all

Plan to stay a week or two longer so you can experience the full benefit of being ramped up.
legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
just joined the pool guys, planning to stay 4 weeks at least

GL all
Welcome aboard!
GL is what we hope for, but average luck is also good Cheesy
Also lets hope over those 4 weeks we can grow more to reduce that luck variance - joining in of course helps directly with that!
jr. member
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Well since my first name is Gregory naturally my brothers and sisters started calling me Peck...   Hence Pecker, lol 


Can you explain that a little more?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_Peck

member
Activity: 112
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just joined the pool guys, planning to stay 4 weeks at least

GL all
jr. member
Activity: 126
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Well since my first name is Gregory naturally my brothers and sisters started calling me Peck...   Hence Pecker, lol 


Can you explain that a little more?
newbie
Activity: 74
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Hey folks,

I'm a newbie and just switched my 4 s9 over to Kano. Someone told me to try Asspool and I was not impressed.   I don't really know much about all of these number and equations/calculations that are often discussed.  But I am HERE TO STAY WITH KANO.  Just let it all ride, lol

So what do you mean when you say ramp up?  People switching back and forth to different pools?  How do the mining blocks get allocated to all the different pools?  In other words, how does Kano get theirs when competing against the big pools?  How do you receive a reward and what for?

Just a lot to comprehend when your just starting out... all the different numbers and calculations overwhelming.  As long as I am hashing, and it shows all good on my miners and Kano workers I am good to go right?  Anything else I really need to pay attention to?

Thanks,

Pecker



No other names were available?  :------P


I want to register Woody.

C'mon, crack this block already ... 1 in 4.5 ...



Well since my first name is Gregory naturally my brothers and sisters started calling me Peck...   Hence Pecker, lol 

As a noobie, how can I tell on the charts when we hit/crack a block?  Not real sure what I am looking at in those charts and what they mean...

Thank

Pecker!
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
In regards to miner temperature and hashrate variability, here are my findings with my AntMiner S9 after a couple of days:

My miner has stayed within the temperature range of 74 degrees to 78 degrees for the hottest Chip.  When it gets to 78 the fans kick into overdrive and put it down to 74.  If I keep the Antminer S9 in a cooler place, the temps drop a couple of degrees and the fans do not run in overdrive and make much less noise.   I have not seen a difference in hashrate on the S9 Status Screen based on room temperature so far.

The hashrate on the Status screen has been consistently around 13.50 TH/s (Ideal) and 13.68 TH/s (RT).   Not sure what RT means.

Here is my AntMiner S9 Status Screen: https://imgur.com/a/UdaSg

Now, on the pool website, for worker shifts, my hashrate has varied wildly and randomly between 11.15 TH/s and 14.81 TH/s, but the average is around 13.68 TH/s.  
Yeah the miner averages are not exactly the same as the pool accepted share/hash rate.
Since shares themselves are random - though they should average about 18 per minute - they follow exactly the same distribution model as blocks.
Meaning, that sometimes they'll be faster than the average 3.333 seconds and sometime they'll be slower.
The pool only sees shares, and calculates your hash rate per shift, based on the value of those shares and the length of the shift.

So e.g. if you submit S=2300 shares, valued at D=4098 each, during a M=50 minute shift, your hash rate would be S x D * 2^32 / (M * 60)
or 2300 x 4096 x 2^32 / (50 * 60) = 1.349 x 10^13 or about 13.49 THs

Please note that I picked those numbers to make the answer look similar Smiley

Now what really happens is that although there's expected to be around 2300 shares at 13.5THs in a 50 minute shift, there's actually, randomly, more or less than 2300 shares.
That's the share variance that makes the shift graph go up and down.

But the important point is, the shift graph shows you exactly what each shift is worth in terms of Diff - which is what you get rewarded for.
It's not some averaged out value that isn't what you will be rewarded, it's the actual Diff value, and it's expected to vary a bit.

At the moment there's a lot of shifts in the 5Nd payout range, so that variance effect on the total reward is extremely small, but even when we were larger and finding a few blocks a day, that variance is still very small since at e.g. 3 blocks a day, the 5Nd is about 48 shifts.
member
Activity: 658
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4 s9's 2 821's
Let's slowly, quietly, and carefully unwrap this block.  Let's get to the next one.


MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN!
legendary
Activity: 952
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Sorry for the noob question but if I have a kanopool account and an Antminer S9 what address do i use for the pool?   stratum+tcp://stratum.kano.is:3333 or stratum+tcp://nonce.kano.is:27181

thanks
stratum+tcp://stratum.kano.is:3333
Mine on.
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
Sorry for the noob question but if I have a kanopool account and an Antminer S9 what address do i use for the pool?   stratum+tcp://stratum.kano.is:3333 or stratum+tcp://nonce.kano.is:27181

thanks
member
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Can someone tell me how long I have to wait in order to log back in? Since I locked myself out of Kano.

I think Kano's response to this question is always "a while" so I'm not completely sure.  Try again after 30 minutes or an hour and maybe send him a PM?

I got back in. Thanks for the response.
jr. member
Activity: 136
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In regards to miner temperature and hashrate variability, here are my findings with my AntMiner S9 after a couple of days:

My miner has stayed within the temperature range of 74 degrees to 78 degrees for the hottest Chip.  When it gets to 78 the fans kick into overdrive and put it down to 74.  If I keep the Antminer S9 in a cooler place, the temps drop a couple of degrees and the fans do not run in overdrive and make much less noise.   I have not seen a difference in hashrate on the S9 Status Screen based on room temperature so far.

The hashrate on the Status screen has been consistently around 13.50 TH/s (Ideal) and 13.68 TH/s (RT).   Not sure what RT means.

Here is my AntMiner S9 Status Screen: https://imgur.com/a/UdaSg

Now, on the pool website, for worker shifts, my hashrate has varied wildly and randomly between 11.15 TH/s and 14.81 TH/s, but the average is around 13.68 TH/s.  


I've always understood RT to mean "Real Time" as in what it is currently hashing at that moment, while the other is your average Hashrate over time.
I can't wait to have my shed up with an exhaust fan and some A/C cooling the shed in the summers. These temps in my garage are killing me since it's Arkansas and decided to go from 0 degrees outside last week to mid to upper 50's this weekend and upcoming week. Now I have the garage door cracked outside, and I have the interior garage door opened fully to try and exhaust the heat into the house and it's STILL a little warm for me. As it is it's hitting around 77 and then cooling down and heating back up within 3 - 5 minutes. Rinse, repeat.
jr. member
Activity: 56
Merit: 1
In regards to miner temperature and hashrate variability, here are my findings with my AntMiner S9 after a couple of days:

My miner has stayed within the temperature range of 74 degrees to 78 degrees for the hottest Chip.  When it gets to 78 the fans kick into overdrive and put it down to 74.  If I keep the Antminer S9 in a cooler place, the temps drop a couple of degrees and the fans do not run in overdrive and make much less noise.   I have not seen a difference in hashrate on the S9 Status Screen based on room temperature so far.

The hashrate on the Status screen has been consistently around 13.50 TH/s (Ideal) and 13.68 TH/s (RT).   Not sure what RT means.

Here is my AntMiner S9 Status Screen: https://imgur.com/a/UdaSg

Now, on the pool website, for worker shifts, my hashrate has varied wildly and randomly between 11.15 TH/s and 14.81 TH/s, but the average is around 13.68 TH/s.  
legendary
Activity: 1736
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Carl, aka Sonny :)
Can someone tell me how long I have to wait in order to log back in? Since I locked myself out of Kano.

I think Kano's response to this question is always "a while" so I'm not completely sure.  Try again after 30 minutes or an hour and maybe send him a PM?
newbie
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1619 miners, surely a block will show up soon!
 Grin
jr. member
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gl man. Yeah I have mine in a shop, separate building than my home. Its small, only 120 sf with a 9' ceiling on a 4/12 pitch for a total volume of around 1000 cubic ft. I started leaving the window open a little but noticed that if it got too cold they lag.  Roll Eyes Huh Huh let me know if you want any other infoz
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When you say shop, do you have central air out there or are you running a portable A/C or no A/C at all in the summer? I am building a shed to house my miners, currently only 4 S9's but plan to add on as profits allow. I am planning on running an exhaust fan to the shed and boxing in the hot side , while running a portable AC unit with 10000 BTU cooling. This should allow me to keep the shed cool even on the hottest summer days. Not sure what your setup is looking like but I am all about any input other users have on mistakes they may have made in the past or things they wish they had done differently.

I built this shop especially for mining though it has more purpose than just mining including storage and a work bench, etc, with the consideration of a great deal of heat being generated. It is an "open building" in that I constructed it, and when I build the roof system I opted to ommit the 2x6 rafter blocks and went with 2x4 so there is an open air gap at the top of the roof pitch. This is a flat roof, btw.  so considering the rise of heated thermal air, a constant cycle of air is produced. I have no HVAC quipment, just a 3d printer on the desk running sometimes. my miners are on shelving that built at about 6'.

So far, I am very pleased with the design. It doesn't get too hot (yet), though if it does its resolved simply by cracking the window.

If I'm not mistaken, I read that anything sub-100 deg. C is A. O. K.

Mine are thriving in their custom lava submersion tank.

lol kk

alright, first of all I'm sorry. I'm not sure wtf I was thinking. Those temperature numbers I talked about are crazy. Nevermind that, I wasn't looking at my terminal. I am now. My temps average around 38 deg Celsius, though at times it may spike to 42.

smh sorry about that!



So I'm lost now...which temps post were you being crazy in? Was it this post you were messed up on?

"My best hash rate is right around 80-83 degrees.

Anything less than 75 and  they're losing 20% of the hashrate. They seem happy to chill around 80-82 degrees with fans around 4500 to 5400 rpm"

I hate it if this is incorrect because these numbers match up with what I have on my hands over here (minus the losing hashrate below 75 C).
newbie
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K,

Can you possibly shoot me my dust payments?  They are from when I 1st started on Kano.is and together they def total more than .001.

Thx!

User: ShefSam
When I complete the new accounting/payout code.

THANK YOU!

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