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4 s9's 2 821's
For the current difficulty period the network is through ~82% of blocks in ~73% target period  

At current rate next difficulty estimate :     2 160 024 151 004    11.85%    18/01/13 12:06      
For the current difficulty period the network is through ~91% of blocks in ~79% target period  

At current rate next difficulty estimate :     2 184 039 845 865    13.10%    18/01/13 07:56

Difficulty change in ~24hours   

Given the average rate over the past month or so, we are going to be approaching a difficulty number with a 5 handle, from its current 2 handle.

This will absolutely crush even the Antminer S9 profitability unless bitcoin doubles or more from here.
This is the single biggest issue I see in mining now.

When I first decided to buy the Antminer S9 in late November, I noted that slushpool had about 48,000 workers (Early Dec.), I will be getting my miners shortly, but now slushpool has almost 74,000 workers and in the next two months that's probably going much higher. And I'm sure its the same at every pool, including Kano which I'm likely to be joining. But I can't see how these miners stay profitable past July-Aug at current rate of increase of mining machines and difficulty.

What are you long term miner's thoughts on this subject?


And therein lies the rub...a better miner needs to come out, and soon...otherwise short-term profitability drops for everyone (unless $BTC rises). 
sr. member
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Given the average rate over the past month or so, we are going to be approaching a difficulty number with a 5 handle, from its current 2 handle.

This will absolutely crush even the Antminer S9 profitability unless bitcoin doubles or more from here.
This is the single biggest issue I see in mining now.

When I first decided to buy the Antminer S9 in late November, I noted that slushpool had about 48,000 workers (Early Dec.), I will be getting my miners shortly, but now slushpool has almost 74,000 workers and in the next two months that's probably going much higher. And I'm sure its the same at every pool, including Kano which I'm likely to be joining. But I can't see how these miners stay profitable past July-Aug at current rate of increase of mining machines and difficulty.

What are you long term miner's thoughts on this subject?

Well I have not been mining consistently all these years but I started in 2013. I think it depends on if you are mining for cash flow or mining to accumulate some BTC. If you think BTC has a bright future and hodl, mining is not a bad way to go. Although with the prices miners are bringing on Ebay you might be smarter to sell the miners and buy BTC with the proceeds. If you are mining for extra cash I think that the stream is goinng  to run dry much quicker than most people getting in today expect.

One S9 figuring a 28% monthly increase in difficulty and a 0% increase in BTC price starts loosing money about 9 months out looks like. If you figure a 1% monthly increase in BTC it remains profitable for about a year.

EDIT: The above is calculated using a reward of 15BTC per block, so if your not mining where they pay the transaction fees it would not apply. Also the 16BTC could go up or down, who knows.

For me, I mine because I like to and feel crypto in general has a future. For some reason I feel it is more satisfying to mine coins than to buy them. Probably not the best finanacial decision but it is a personal choice.

Mine on!
newbie
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For the current difficulty period the network is through ~82% of blocks in ~73% target period  

At current rate next difficulty estimate :     2 160 024 151 004    11.85%    18/01/13 12:06      
For the current difficulty period the network is through ~91% of blocks in ~79% target period  

At current rate next difficulty estimate :     2 184 039 845 865    13.10%    18/01/13 07:56

Difficulty change in ~24hours   

Given the average rate over the past month or so, we are going to be approaching a difficulty number with a 5 handle, from its current 2 handle.

This will absolutely crush even the Antminer S9 profitability unless bitcoin doubles or more from here.
This is the single biggest issue I see in mining now.

When I first decided to buy the Antminer S9 in late November, I noted that slushpool had about 48,000 workers (Early Dec.), I will be getting my miners shortly, but now slushpool has almost 74,000 workers and in the next two months that's probably going much higher. And I'm sure its the same at every pool, including Kano which I'm likely to be joining. But I can't see how these miners stay profitable past July-Aug at current rate of increase of mining machines and difficulty.

What are you long term miner's thoughts on this subject?
newbie
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Curious question. If my Slushpool says 100% confirmed is it safe to take the miners off and bring them over here?


Actually you can move them before that and it should not cause any issues. The confirmations are by the network and once the BTC is shown as rewarded you should get that amount even if you move the miners.

I need it to get to .1 bitcoins so it will pay out.


You can get paid at .01 BTC on slush.   FWIW

Well Dam, I did not know that, ok. 37th more coming to Kano!!!
every Hash much welcome! Mine on!
jr. member
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Curious question. If my Slushpool says 100% confirmed is it safe to take the miners off and bring them over here?


Actually you can move them before that and it should not cause any issues. The confirmations are by the network and once the BTC is shown as rewarded you should get that amount even if you move the miners.

I need it to get to .1 bitcoins so it will pay out.


You can get paid at .01 BTC on slush.   FWIW

Well Dam, I did not know that, ok. 37th more coming to Kano!!!
member
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4 s9's 2 821's
Curious question. If my Slushpool says 100% confirmed is it safe to take the miners off and bring them over here?


Actually you can move them before that and it should not cause any issues. The confirmations are by the network and once the BTC is shown as rewarded you should get that amount even if you move the miners.

I need it to get to .1 bitcoins so it will pay out.


You can get paid at .01 BTC on slush.   FWIW
jr. member
Activity: 97
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Curious question. If my Slushpool says 100% confirmed is it safe to take the miners off and bring them over here?


Actually you can move them before that and it should not cause any issues. The confirmations are by the network and once the BTC is shown as rewarded you should get that amount even if you move the miners.

I need it to get to .1 bitcoins so it will pay out.

just make sure that your 'Confirmed Reward' and 'Unconfirmed Reward' on the Dashboard add up to 0.1 and you're good to go. otherwise, you can also lower your payout threshold by clicking on the little blue wheel next to 'Payout Threshold'.
jr. member
Activity: 77
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Curious question. If my Slushpool says 100% confirmed is it safe to take the miners off and bring them over here?


Actually you can move them before that and it should not cause any issues. The confirmations are by the network and once the BTC is shown as rewarded you should get that amount even if you move the miners.

I need it to get to .1 bitcoins so it will pay out.
member
Activity: 658
Merit: 21
4 s9's 2 821's
Curious question. If my Slushpool says 100% confirmed is it safe to take the miners off and bring them over here?


Yeah you can move them over now, the rest will be totally confirmed within 16 hours or so...meanwhile you can start your 5nd here at kano!
sr. member
Activity: 519
Merit: 253
Curious question. If my Slushpool says 100% confirmed is it safe to take the miners off and bring them over here?


Actually you can move them before that and it should not cause any issues. The confirmations are by the network and once the BTC is shown as rewarded you should get that amount even if you move the miners.
jr. member
Activity: 77
Merit: 4
Curious question. If my Slushpool says 100% confirmed is it safe to take the miners off and bring them over here?
jr. member
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Merit: 1
Mine on!!
How often do you clean out your S9?

I have had one running since Nov 21, and the 4 others since Dec 27...
Should I give them a good scrub down with soap and water? :-)
Toothbrush between the heatsinks?

Or just blow them out with compressed air?

I have never seen or heard what is recommended for maintenance on these, so I thought I would ask here.



I would advise you do your homework online if you are not a Pro but...

I used 100% pure alcohol when I refurbished 2 S7s as follows.

1 Power down and let cool for 15 min.
2 Blow out with air.
3 Dissasemble
4 Use a spray bottle filled with 100% alcohol, carefully spray down all parts letting grime drain away immediately. Do not let pool.
5 Carefully use emery cloth on the leading edge of heatsinks facing intake fan to remove impacted particles.
6 Repeat step 4
7 Carefully remove any loose heatsinks clean and reapply with 2 part heatsink adhesive.
8 Replace any damaged or worn out fans.
9 Reassemble.

My temps went from 58 on average to 40 after refurb. (1 loose heat sink and replaced all 4 fans) running running freak 718 on 1 and 731 on the other. HW errors went from .03 to .0038 on average between the two machines.

Note: My machines are old old old, basicly parts I HAD to refurb them to get them healthy and working.
         I plan to repeat this Deep Cleaning only when necessary due to performance issues but I will blow them out once per 3 months or as needed.
         If you use an air compressor to blow out your rigs please purchase an inline Water Elimination Filter and do not forget Step 1. Smiley

Best of luck!

Mine on!
hero member
Activity: 1610
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I'm in BTC XTC
Longer than I should have apparently (more than a year...)  Cheesy

And finally I can add another S9 to the pool, sometime this weekend or into next week, after WAY too much delay...
newbie
Activity: 42
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Just gave my R4 an air shower yesterday. A truly alarming amount of dirt/dust came out, and when all was done I'm getting a good 10 degrees lower on the hottest chip temp reported. Cough-cough!
Mine on!  Cool
Sounds good. When last did you clean it out ?
hero member
Activity: 1610
Merit: 538
I'm in BTC XTC
Just gave my R4 an air shower yesterday. A truly alarming amount of dirt/dust came out, and when all was done I'm getting a good 10 degrees lower on the hottest chip temp reported. Cough-cough!
Mine on!  Cool
sr. member
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Merit: 250
How often do you clean out your S9?

I have had one running since Nov 21, and the 4 others since Dec 27...
Should I give them a good scrub down with soap and water? :-)
Toothbrush between the heatsinks?

Or just blow them out with compressed air?

I have never seen or heard what is recommended for maintenance on these, so I thought I would ask here.


Like any other computing device, I'd blow them out with compressed air every 6 months. More often if your environment is dusty. Clean machine means lower temps means longer life.
Heh yeah - stay away from the soap and water Cheesy
You could also try a power washer, but it tends to knock the heat sinks off  Wink
legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
How often do you clean out your S9?

I have had one running since Nov 21, and the 4 others since Dec 27...
Should I give them a good scrub down with soap and water? :-)
Toothbrush between the heatsinks?

Or just blow them out with compressed air?

I have never seen or heard what is recommended for maintenance on these, so I thought I would ask here.


Like any other computing device, I'd blow them out with compressed air every 6 months. More often if your environment is dusty. Clean machine means lower temps means longer life.
Heh yeah - stay away from the soap and water Cheesy
sr. member
Activity: 276
Merit: 250
How often do you clean out your S9?

I have had one running since Nov 21, and the 4 others since Dec 27...
Should I give them a good scrub down with soap and water? :-)
Toothbrush between the heatsinks?

Or just blow them out with compressed air?

I have never seen or heard what is recommended for maintenance on these, so I thought I would ask here.


Like any other computing device, I'd blow them out with compressed air every 6 months. More often if your environment is dusty. Clean machine means lower temps means longer life.
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
The LA half of the stratum node suddenly started dropping packets left right and centre for 5 minutes from 10:54 UTC to 10:59 UTC
Anyone who was mining on the LA half of stratum, probably would have failed over to their 2nd pool.
It's all OK again now.
jr. member
Activity: 196
Merit: 4
How often do you clean out your S9?

I have had one running since Nov 21, and the 4 others since Dec 27...
Should I give them a good scrub down with soap and water? :-)
Toothbrush between the heatsinks?

Or just blow them out with compressed air?

I have never seen or heard what is recommended for maintenance on these, so I thought I would ask here.

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