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Topic: KanoPool kano.is lowest 0.9% fee 🐈 since 2014 - Worldwide - 2432 blocks - page 593. (Read 5352322 times)

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Avalon 821s are available at cryptouniverse for preorders, late jan early feb delivery. Get one! Mine on!


4000+ dollars.  Shocked
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Avalon 821s are available at cryptouniverse for preorders, late jan early feb delivery. Get one! Mine on!
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Possible to add daily income statistic based on hash rate like Nicehash, Kano?
legendary
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Think for yourself
I have read in some posts that there is quite a bit of time wasted between when you point your miners to the Kano pool and when they actually begin mining. Is this true? If so why is that?

Uh, no.  When you are mining you are mining.  Care to elaborate on what exactly your talking about? Or are we supposed to play the guessing game as to what your talking about?  I never liked charades.  Smiley
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I have read in some posts that there is quite a bit of time wasted between when you point your miners to the Kano pool and when they actually begin mining. Is this true? If so why is that?
legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Hello Kano,
my worker name on pool is spol with adress 161eRpZoYSnJJiMjoD5g3GXPRLP4D4iBVy
I have earned 0.00066BTC but still it's not paid, what could be the problem?

Um, you gotta wait for the payout transaction to be confirmed.
To simplify my answer, that will be when we get the next block.
See Help->Payouts
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Hello Kano,
my worker name on pool is spol with adress 161eRpZoYSnJJiMjoD5g3GXPRLP4D4iBVy
I have earned 0.00066BTC but still it's not paid, what could be the problem?
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Hello all, super noob here. I have a wallet set up on laptop for view only, and cold wallet set up on a usb drive using Electrum wallet as I couldn't quite get the bitcoin core to work without downloading the full blockchain. I have my seed wrote down on paper, my public master key on another usb drive, and with the my view only wallet on this laptop. Hopefully be getting my pdu and power cables tomorrow and join my 3 s9's into the pool. Is there anything I'm missing or should do differently? Thanks in advance.
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For the current difficulty period the network is through ~73% of blocks in ~65% target period 

At current rate next difficulty estimate :     2 151 281 219 479      11.40%    18/01/13 13:37      
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Does it still hit enough blocks to stay here?
I know the pay is higher per block but if we dont hit but 10 a month is that better?

Yes the pay still better than most, definitely better than the large pools.

Have you worked out what you are making per day for an S9 when it is fully ramped up and over several time periods?  I cannot do this because I am still in the ramp up process. I have worked out the payment and divided it by my N Average and figured out that number, but its not entirely accurate because there is a ramp down period that cant be equated.


I am still ramping up also with one s5 and one s9, the s5 has not bee mining long the s9 I started ~30 minutes after the block 456999 was found and my reward total is 0.00882909, my average 5nd rate between the last two blocks is ~7ths if I was ramped up fully my pay would have been pretty much double what I did earn.
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Payment was sent, but hasn't been confirmed yet so it's in limbo at the moment.  Soon enough it'll get confirmed and you'll be able to use it.
Cheers, and Mine On!  Cool

(and only kanosan is here, not the other guy....!)


Thanks for the quick response!  (And the heads up on only master Kano being here.) I’ll give it a few more days and see if it clears itself up.
I noticed that some other pools (like Slush) show a transaction history report for all past payouts.  I don’t see that level of detail on kanopool.  Am I just missing it?


Quick follow up on this... The payment was in limbo as you suggested.   It took a few tries but the transfer got to my account.
Every transfer since that first one has happened immediately without issue.
Thanks!
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Does it still hit enough blocks to stay here?
I know the pay is higher per block but if we dont hit but 10 a month is that better?

Yes the pay still better than most, definitely better than the large pools.

Have you worked out what you are making per day for an S9 when it is fully ramped up and over several time periods?  I cannot do this because I am still in the ramp up process. I have worked out the payment and divided it by my N Average and figured out that number, but its not entirely accurate because there is a ramp down period that cant be equated.
hero member
Activity: 630
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Does it still hit enough blocks to stay here?
I know the pay is higher per block but if we dont hit but 10 a month is that better?

Yes the pay still better than most, definitely better than the large pools.
member
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Does it still hit enough blocks to stay here?
I know the pay is higher per block but if we dont hit but 10 a month is that better?
legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
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Theory-crafting-wise in knowledge beyond me, I was wondering to what extent it is a good or a bad or an irrelevant thing that network difficulty change time (~12-14 days) is less than the 5ND (15+ days)?
It counts against the pool even at 30PH - anime God forbid we get much smaller than that - though we have been growing again since the Oct crash and burn ...
Though, it's not the 5ND that really matters, it's the size of the pool itself vs the network.
While we still get multiple blocks per diff change, it's not too much of an effect.
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Hello Kano folks! New user here with questions:
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Block   Block UTC   Miner Reward   N Diff   N Range   Pool N Avg   Your %   Your N Diff   Your N Avg   Your BTC
503342   9/Jan 13:06   17.49562099   9.672T   400hr 1m 5s   28.85PHs   0.05%   5.148G   15.35THs   0.00931291
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1) Why is my Avg at 12-15 TH/s? I thought it would be around 40 TH/s for the last block since I was mining for its entire duration?
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Answering this should answer the whole message Smiley

The payout was for the last "N Diff" 9.672T Diff shares, around "N Range" 400hrs or about 16.6 days
It's 5Nd = 5 times the average expected time to find a block, not just the last block.
As it says on the Help->Payouts page, 5Nd is currently 9,655,682,272,438.5 = 9.656T Diff plus + a bit for the last shift included.

As your shift graph shows 3-Jan as you said, that's about 6 days of those 16.6 days of reward range for 503342 or about 40TH * 6 / 16 = 15 TH

Edit: and just in case you didn't spot the point why that works out OK, those 6 days of mining will probably be included in the next 10 days of blocks we find (if the pool hash rate doesn't change) so they get more of their expected reward in any blocks we find while they are still part of the 5Nd

Thanks much for the explanation!

Somehow I read the Payout help page multiple times and other people's post on the topic but it never clicked before.

Sorry if I'm repeating what must've been asked before but it's hard to find the answers sometimes on the same long thread.

Theory-crafting-wise in knowledge beyond me, I was wondering to what extent it is a good or a bad or an irrelevant thing that network difficulty change time (~12-14 days) is less than the 5ND (15+ days)?
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Not refreshing kano.is every hour seems to have paid off.

Also, in the past 2 blocks, it seems that Kano (not even fully ramped up) has paid more than the "other pool"

I've 3 new S9's sitting boxed, waiting to go to hosting ...
legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Hello Kano folks! New user here with questions:
...
Block   Block UTC   Miner Reward   N Diff   N Range   Pool N Avg   Your %   Your N Diff   Your N Avg   Your BTC
503342   9/Jan 13:06   17.49562099   9.672T   400hr 1m 5s   28.85PHs   0.05%   5.148G   15.35THs   0.00931291
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1) Why is my Avg at 12-15 TH/s? I thought it would be around 40 TH/s for the last block since I was mining for its entire duration?
...
Answering this should answer the whole message Smiley

The payout was for the last "N Diff" 9.672T Diff shares, around "N Range" 400hrs or about 16.6 days
It's 5Nd = 5 times the average expected time to find a block, not just the last block.
As it says on the Help->Payouts page, 5Nd is currently 9,655,682,272,438.5 = 9.656T Diff plus + a bit for the last shift included.

As your shift graph shows 3-Jan as you said, that's about 6 days of those 16.6 days of reward range for 503342 or about 40TH * 6 / 16 = 15 TH

Edit: and just in case you didn't spot the point why that works out OK, those 6 days of mining will probably be included in the next 10 days of blocks we find (if the pool hash rate doesn't change) so they get more of their expected reward in any blocks we find while they are still part of the 5Nd
legendary
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Think for yourself
So I've tried to read up and understand the 5nd payout system here

It's a PPLNS payout system.  It just happens to use 5nd worth of shifts.
legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
NEWBIE QUESTION ALERT

Is there any benefit to filling in the Management Page details?
https://kano.is/index.php?k=workmgt

Thank you Smiley
Mostly no.
The Diff you mine at is not expected to affect your rewards unless you set it WAY too high.

If you do set it WAY too high, then you are still expected to get the same reward but with higher variance.

The logic of how Diff works is like this:
Say I am mining at Diff 1,000 and I find 200 shares >= 1,000 thus reward is based on 200,000 Diff
If instead I was mining at Diff 10,000 you would expect there to be 20 shares (on average) in that 200 shares, that are >= 10,000 thus you'd expect your reward to be based on, again, 200,000 Diff Smiley

It's all 'expected' statistics and you absolutely cannot game it Smiley

So there's usually no point changing it unless you have an old miner that wont display diff properly - but even in that case it doesn't affect your expected reward - just the display on some of the old bitmain miners wasn't correct if you had an exact power of 2 for the mining diff - in that case you could set it in the Management Page to be a little higher.
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