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newbie
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what do you guys meant when you talked about dust?
Any rewards below 10,000 satoshi, and any rewards you get, if you ignore the Bold Red warning at the top of the page, about having not entered a payout address Smiley

This is what I am (finally) coding changes to deal with.

For most people this isn't really relevant, but if you're a tiny miner you may have lots of dust rewards that have accumulated.

Thank you sir kano for the information

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Another question, if you start mining with a BTC address only, and decided to register to kano.is website, is it as easy as moving the BTC address to the registered account? and all data will transfer there?
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
I used to see the 5ND section in pink in the shift graph, now it’s no longer there. Is it gone from everyone’s or just mine?
It just means that the 'start' of the last payout 5Nd is off the left of the graph.
The end of the last 5Nd is still there - which is when we last found a block.

The pink area is the last payout 5Nd range.
Currently, drawing that requires the start to be in the visible data range.
member
Activity: 658
Merit: 21
4 s9's 2 821's
I used to see the 5ND section in pink in the shift graph, now it’s no longer there. Is it gone from everyone’s or just mine?

it's gone...next 5ND starts it all over.
hero member
Activity: 1610
Merit: 538
I'm in BTC XTC

ahahah  I had a good laugh.  Get angry..  its just discussion.

Not angry, just tired of the latest noob du jour chiming in with the usual uninformed musings of 'something wrong' yet again.  It's not a dabate, that's all, don't get angry...  Roll Eyes
newbie
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Merit: 0
I used to see the 5ND section in pink in the shift graph, now it’s no longer there. Is it gone from everyone’s or just mine?
jr. member
Activity: 196
Merit: 4
You said "touch wood"...   Cheesy
But seriously, you noobs got to settle the F down.  This is BY FAR the best pool to mine on not just for the txn fees but the fact that kano-san himself, one of the guys who literally wrote the book on mining software for both the mining side and server side that keeps the OG BTC alive, runs this pool and lets us all know if anything is going on asap.  As Sonny points out, if Kano-sama isn't telling us somthing's up with the pool, then NOTHING IS.  End of story.
Keep calm and mine on.  Cool

ahahah  I had a good laugh.  Get angry..  its just discussion.
hero member
Activity: 1610
Merit: 538
I'm in BTC XTC
You said "touch wood"...   Cheesy
But seriously, you noobs got to settle the F down.  This is BY FAR the best pool to mine on not just for the txn fees but the fact that kano-san himself, one of the guys who literally wrote the book on mining software for both the mining side and server side that keeps the OG BTC alive, runs this pool and lets us all know if anything is going on asap.  As Sonny points out, if Kano-sama isn't telling us somthing's up with the pool, then NOTHING IS.  End of story.
Keep calm and mine on.  Cool
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Something is not right it's been a week and more and still now no blocks.
I wonder what is going on ?
Even pools with lower hash rate got blocks but not us in this Kano pool, maybe something out there happening.
But we are here mining hoping for the best, pray for the best.

We've seen this before, really hoping this is not another 800-900% block, as that will go to the middle of January at this hash rate.  

I can't afford that. Sad

M

Not many of us can.  I know it's luck but that won't pay the bills.  So we just need to crack this biotch NOW!

I was thinking if there is a DDOS attack on the web server, why wouldn't the same people be doing that to the stratum server, OR some other attack where that server connects to, delaying stuff for kano pool?  I don't have that much knowledge of how all that back end systems work so I can only speculate.  I just find it hard to believe that someone will DDOS a web server that displays data to the users, and NOT? attack the stratum server or some other service/device that will affect the probability of a block.

Please don't suggest to those morons do things that actually matter Smiley
Hackers DDoS web sites ... that's usually as much as they know.
The web server is a completely different server, for that reason Smiley

... and we have more than 10 servers they'd have to DDoS to stop the pool.
Though there's more than 20 in all, all around the world, with 5 main different providers and 5 others Smiley

Edit: this is also why large miners can get access to white listed servers, or I can setup a server for them, in the case that these things did ever happen ... touch wood Smiley
member
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Free mining equipment tracking and reporting
Nice analysis.  

Do these numbers also take into account transaction fees as well?  I've been debating switching over to Kano for a while, but the day I was going to actually make the move about a month ago (12-Nov) it was a very volatile day with BTC price and I saw slush continue to get blocks as Kano just had bad luck.  Luckily I didn't move and I realized that even though it's all luck when it comes to mining there's a benefit to being in a larger pool when volatility is high.

Yes, that is with all fees included at the  Pool hash rate for every block, so if slush does not fudge their fees, it is accurate.
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1032
Carl, aka Sonny :)
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I didn't dispute that kano had better upside with the way this is set up.  I was just thinking that there may be a reason other than bad luck that there has been no block found for 9 days now.  I was just throwing out an idea that maybe some other DDOS attack or something was happening that we are not aware of. I do not mean on the web server, I mean on the backend ie stratum server or upstream of the node which affects the ability to break open one of them 12.5 Tonne Golden nuggets!

One thing we can all be sure of is if this is even remotely true, Kano-san would have posted about here.  Until he does, you can be sure it's not happening.  That's the beauty of a transparent operation like this.
member
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Merit: 10
So my site has been grabbing 5 minute detailed info for a few pools in my upcoming minergain site but dont have the info live yet.   Eventually this data can use your real miner data to do "what if scenarios - even though luck is luck".  So all this got me wondering so I thought I would share some real comparison info...  So if you were with slush for December, here would be your btc per Th that your miners submitted....  After the date is the number of blocks found and the next column is the BTC / TH for that day.  It fully takes into account the hash rate for every block and the 2% that they take.

Dec 1   17   0.00020415
Dec 2   21   0.000246807
Dec 3   21   0.000235327
Dec 4   12   0.000137415
Dec 5   21   0.000230983
Dec 6   15   0.00016493
Dec 7   23   0.000274498
Dec 8   18   0.000217576
Dec 9   12   0.000141403
Dec 10   26   0.000282076
Dec 11   23   0.000254072
Dec 12   13   0.000146673
Dec 13   16   0.000173655
Dec 14   20   0.000201528
Dec 15   18   0.000200334
Dec 16   13   0.000139204
Dec 17   23   0.000244415
Dec 18   20   0.000207583
      
Total: 0.003702629 per Th/s.  

So if you have an S9 like me with 13.5Th/s, that is .0499854915 BTC for the month (assuming fully "vested" in the PPNLS).  As I have mentioned before, the 5 blocks found on Kano (even with the current 8 day delay) is .04509834.  If we got another block today, it would be roughly .054 BTC for the month.  And if we picked off another one tomorrow, it would be roughly .063 BTC.  So yes, there is a little more gambling here, but the potential upside is way more than the sites that give lots of blocks per day...  And isn't that really why we are all in this "business" - gambling?  That is exactly why I moved to Kano from Slush after just one month with them...  I can afford a little electricity if needed, but with that said, my full power bill was paid by the 3rd of this month...  I also purchase coins on the exchanges, and this is a much smaller investment per BTC - just slower.  Anyway, just to give a little perspective for the newbies (me included).


Nice analysis.  

Do these numbers also take into account transaction fees as well?  I've been debating switching over to Kano for a while, but the day I was going to actually make the move about a month ago (12-Nov) it was a very volatile day with BTC price and I saw slush continue to get blocks as Kano just had bad luck.  Luckily I didn't move and I realized that even though it's all luck when it comes to mining there's a benefit to being in a larger pool when volatility is high.
jr. member
Activity: 196
Merit: 4
I can't afford that. Sad
I hope we do go much longer without any.
So my site has been grabbing 5 minute detailed info for a few pools in my upcoming minergain site but dont have the info live yet.   Eventually this data can use your real miner data to do "what if scenarios - even though luck is luck".  So all this got me wondering so I thought I would share some real comparison info...  So if you were with slush for December, here would be your btc per Th that your miners submitted....  After the date is the number of blocks found and the next column is the BTC / TH for that day.  It fully takes into account the hash rate for every block and the 2% that they take.

Dec 1   17   0.00020415
Dec 2   21   0.000246807
Dec 3   21   0.000235327
Dec 4   12   0.000137415
Dec 5   21   0.000230983
Dec 6   15   0.00016493
Dec 7   23   0.000274498
Dec 8   18   0.000217576
Dec 9   12   0.000141403
Dec 10   26   0.000282076
Dec 11   23   0.000254072
Dec 12   13   0.000146673
Dec 13   16   0.000173655
Dec 14   20   0.000201528
Dec 15   18   0.000200334
Dec 16   13   0.000139204
Dec 17   23   0.000244415
Dec 18   20   0.000207583
      
Total: 0.003702629 per Th/s.  

So if you have an S9 like me with 13.5Th/s, that is .0499854915 BTC for the month (assuming fully "vested" in the PPNLS).  As I have mentioned before, the 5 blocks found on Kano (even with the current 8 day delay) is .04509834.  If we got another block today, it would be roughly .054 BTC for the month.  And if we picked off another one tomorrow, it would be roughly .063 BTC.  So yes, there is a little more gambling here, but the potential upside is way more than the sites that give lots of blocks per day...  And isn't that really why we are all in this "business" - gambling?  That is exactly why I moved to Kano from Slush after just one month with them...  I can afford a little electricity if needed, but with that said, my full power bill was paid by the 3rd of this month...  I also purchase coins on the exchanges, and this is a much smaller investment per BTC - just slower.  Anyway, just to give a little perspective for the newbies (me included).


I didn't dispute that kano had better upside with the way this is set up.  I was just thinking that there may be a reason other than bad luck that there has been no block found for 9 days now.  I was just throwing out an idea that maybe some other DDOS attack or something was happening that we are not aware of. I do not mean on the web server, I mean on the backend ie stratum server or upstream of the node which affects the ability to break open one of them 12.5 Tonne Golden nuggets!
member
Activity: 73
Merit: 10
I can't afford that. Sad
I hope we do go much longer without any.
So my site has been grabbing 5 minute detailed info for a few pools in my upcoming minergain site but dont have the info live yet.   Eventually this data can use your real miner data to do "what if scenarios - even though luck is luck".  So all this got me wondering so I thought I would share some real comparison info...  So if you were with slush for December, here would be your btc per Th that your miners submitted....  After the date is the number of blocks found and the next column is the BTC / TH for that day.  It fully takes into account the hash rate for every block and the 2% that they take.

Dec 1   17   0.00020415
Dec 2   21   0.000246807
Dec 3   21   0.000235327
Dec 4   12   0.000137415
Dec 5   21   0.000230983
Dec 6   15   0.00016493
Dec 7   23   0.000274498
Dec 8   18   0.000217576
Dec 9   12   0.000141403
Dec 10   26   0.000282076
Dec 11   23   0.000254072
Dec 12   13   0.000146673
Dec 13   16   0.000173655
Dec 14   20   0.000201528
Dec 15   18   0.000200334
Dec 16   13   0.000139204
Dec 17   23   0.000244415
Dec 18   20   0.000207583
      
Total: 0.003702629 per Th/s.  

So if you have an S9 like me with 13.5Th/s, that is .0499854915 BTC for the month (assuming fully "vested" in the PPNLS).  As I have mentioned before, the 5 blocks found on Kano (even with the current 8 day delay) is .04509834.  If we got another block today, it would be roughly .054 BTC for the month.  And if we picked off another one tomorrow, it would be roughly .063 BTC.  So yes, there is a little more gambling here, but the potential upside is way more than the sites that give lots of blocks per day...  And isn't that really why we are all in this "business" - gambling?  That is exactly why I moved to Kano from Slush after just one month with them...  I can afford a little electricity if needed, but with that said, my full power bill was paid by the 3rd of this month...  I also purchase coins on the exchanges, and this is a much smaller investment per BTC - just slower.  Anyway, just to give a little perspective for the newbies (me included).


Good info there thanks!
I have one s9 pointed each way. One to slush and one here.
Told myself to give it one month and get 5nd here to weigh out my options.
Thinking about moving the other one here as well.
member
Activity: 210
Merit: 15
I can't afford that. Sad
I hope we do go much longer without any.
So my site has been grabbing 5 minute detailed info for a few pools in my upcoming minergain site but dont have the info live yet.   Eventually this data can use your real miner data to do "what if scenarios - even though luck is luck".  So all this got me wondering so I thought I would share some real comparison info...  So if you were with slush for December, here would be your btc per Th that your miners submitted....  After the date is the number of blocks found and the next column is the BTC / TH for that day.  It fully takes into account the hash rate for every block and the 2% that they take.

Dec 1   17   0.00020415
Dec 2   21   0.000246807
Dec 3   21   0.000235327
Dec 4   12   0.000137415
Dec 5   21   0.000230983
Dec 6   15   0.00016493
Dec 7   23   0.000274498
Dec 8   18   0.000217576
Dec 9   12   0.000141403
Dec 10   26   0.000282076
Dec 11   23   0.000254072
Dec 12   13   0.000146673
Dec 13   16   0.000173655
Dec 14   20   0.000201528
Dec 15   18   0.000200334
Dec 16   13   0.000139204
Dec 17   23   0.000244415
Dec 18   20   0.000207583
      
Total: 0.003702629 per Th/s.  

So if you have an S9 like me with 13.5Th/s, that is .0499854915 BTC for the month (assuming fully "vested" in the PPNLS).  As I have mentioned before, the 5 blocks found on Kano (even with the current 8 day delay) is .04509834.  If we got another block today, it would be roughly .054 BTC for the month.  And if we picked off another one tomorrow, it would be roughly .063 BTC.  So yes, there is a little more gambling here, but the potential upside is way more than the sites that give lots of blocks per day...  And isn't that really why we are all in this "business" - gambling?  That is exactly why I moved to Kano from Slush after just one month with them...  I can afford a little electricity if needed, but with that said, my full power bill was paid by the 3rd of this month...  I also purchase coins on the exchanges, and this is a much smaller investment per BTC - just slower.  Anyway, just to give a little perspective for the newbies (me included).

The data doesn't lie..... and luck is like the weather, just wait a little while, it will change. KANO-SAN MINE ON!!!
member
Activity: 285
Merit: 10
Free mining equipment tracking and reporting
I can't afford that. Sad
I hope we do go much longer without any.
So my site has been grabbing 5 minute detailed info for a few pools in my upcoming minergain site but dont have the info live yet.   Eventually this data can use your real miner data to do "what if scenarios - even though luck is luck".  So all this got me wondering so I thought I would share some real comparison info...  So if you were with slush for December, here would be your btc per Th that your miners submitted....  After the date is the number of blocks found and the next column is the BTC / TH for that day.  It fully takes into account the hash rate for every block and the 2% that they take.

Dec 1   17   0.00020415
Dec 2   21   0.000246807
Dec 3   21   0.000235327
Dec 4   12   0.000137415
Dec 5   21   0.000230983
Dec 6   15   0.00016493
Dec 7   23   0.000274498
Dec 8   18   0.000217576
Dec 9   12   0.000141403
Dec 10   26   0.000282076
Dec 11   23   0.000254072
Dec 12   13   0.000146673
Dec 13   16   0.000173655
Dec 14   20   0.000201528
Dec 15   18   0.000200334
Dec 16   13   0.000139204
Dec 17   23   0.000244415
Dec 18   20   0.000207583
      
Total: 0.003702629 per Th/s.  

So if you have an S9 like me with 13.5Th/s, that is .0499854915 BTC for the month (assuming fully "vested" in the PPNLS).  As I have mentioned before, the 5 blocks found on Kano (even with the current 8 day delay) is .04509834.  If we got another block today, it would be roughly .054 BTC for the month.  And if we picked off another one tomorrow, it would be roughly .063 BTC.  So yes, there is a little more gambling here, but the potential upside is way more than the sites that give lots of blocks per day...  And isn't that really why we are all in this "business" - gambling?  That is exactly why I moved to Kano from Slush after just one month with them...  I can afford a little electricity if needed, but with that said, my full power bill was paid by the 3rd of this month...  I also purchase coins on the exchanges, and this is a much smaller investment per BTC - just slower.  Anyway, just to give a little perspective for the newbies (me included).
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1032
Carl, aka Sonny :)
A little CDF table of block expectation:

Code:
 0.39346934028737   50.000%  1 in 1.6
 0.63212055882856  100.000%  1 in 2.7
 0.77686983985157  150.000%  1 in 4.5
 0.86466471676339  200.000%  1 in 7.4
 0.95021293163214  300.000%  1 in 20.1
 0.98168436111127  400.000%  1 in 54.6
 0.99326205300091  500.000%  1 in 148.4
 0.99752124782333  600.000%  1 in 403.4
 0.99872735771441  666.666%  1 in 785.8
 0.99908811803445  700.000%  1 in 1096.6
 0.99966453737210  800.000%  1 in 2981.0
 0.99987659019591  900.000%  1 in 8103.1
hero member
Activity: 1610
Merit: 538
I'm in BTC XTC
You noobs want some cheese with that?  Roll Eyes
member
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Merit: 10
Something is not right it's been a week and more and still now no blocks.
I wonder what is going on ?
Even pools with lower hash rate got blocks but not us in this Kano pool, maybe something out there happening.
But we are here mining hoping for the best, pray for the best.

We've seen this before, really hoping this is not another 800-900% block, as that will go to the middle of January at this hash rate.   

I can't afford that. Sad

M

Not many of us can.  I know it's luck but that won't pay the bills.  So we just need to crack this biotch NOW!

I was thinking if there is a DDOS attack on the web server, why wouldn't the same people be doing that to the stratum server, OR some other attack where that server connects to, delaying stuff for kano pool?  I don't have that much knowledge of how all that back end systems work so I can only speculate.  I just find it hard to believe that someone will DDOS a web server that displays data to the users, and NOT? attack the stratum server or some other service/device that will affect the probability of a block.


I have wondered the same thing.
I hope we do go mich longer without any.
jr. member
Activity: 196
Merit: 4
Something is not right it's been a week and more and still now no blocks.
I wonder what is going on ?
Even pools with lower hash rate got blocks but not us in this Kano pool, maybe something out there happening.
But we are here mining hoping for the best, pray for the best.

We've seen this before, really hoping this is not another 800-900% block, as that will go to the middle of January at this hash rate.   

I can't afford that. Sad

M

Not many of us can.  I know it's luck but that won't pay the bills.  So we just need to crack this biotch NOW!

I was thinking if there is a DDOS attack on the web server, why wouldn't the same people be doing that to the stratum server, OR some other attack where that server connects to, delaying stuff for kano pool?  I don't have that much knowledge of how all that back end systems work so I can only speculate.  I just find it hard to believe that someone will DDOS a web server that displays data to the users, and NOT? attack the stratum server or some other service/device that will affect the probability of a block.
member
Activity: 658
Merit: 21
4 s9's 2 821's
Something is not right it's been a week and more and still now no blocks.
I wonder what is going on ?
Even pools with lower hash rate got blocks but not us in this Kano pool, maybe something out there happening.
But we are here mining hoping for the best, pray for the best.

We've seen this before, really hoping this is not another 800-900% block, as that will go to the middle of January at this hash rate.   

I can't afford that. Sad

M

Not many of us can.  I know it's luck but that won't pay the bills.  So we just need to crack this biotch NOW!
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