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Topic: KanoPool kano.is lowest 0.9% fee 🐈 since 2014 - Worldwide - 2432 blocks - page 724. (Read 5352527 times)

legendary
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Yeah there's a few requirements in that though that most web designers don't understand Smiley
(and most pools don't understand either)


I like the website as is. It's fast and provides all of the info I need. The only thing i wish you would change is the link to this forum on the homepage. It would be nice if when clicked it went to the most recent post/page. Maybe the link below would work.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.100000
Added it to the beginning of the first post here instead.
I'd prefer people who come here to read some of the first post, if they've never been here before Smiley
newbie
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Dead chicken 🐔 fucking wifey already started in on me and only killed one !  She just doesn’t understand variance.
newbie
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Yeah there's a few requirements in that though that most web designers don't understand Smiley
(and most pools don't understand either)


I like the website as is. It's fast and provides all of the info I need. The only thing i wish you would change is the link to this forum on the homepage. It would be nice if when clicked it went to the most recent post/page. Maybe the link below would work.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.100000
hero member
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I'm in BTC XTC
You're showing your age with a Hee Haw reference there Diesel...!  And so am I calling you out on it!!!  Cheesy
jr. member
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legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
4) 'Flashy'
Well, if it involves anything like flash or other scripting languages to produce animated images, then that's completely out.

The bottom line is that the site contains more than the necessary information, it's fast to load, and it's secure.

... and a bit of information about the current web server - it's Load Average is usually around 0.00 to 0.01 - and it handles about 150-200K requests a day at the moment.
Flashy was probably an incorrect choice on my part. I think just something that looks more polished and slick than just our text and numbers. I know that we have WAY more info available to us about pool performance than any other pool. And I wouldn't want any of that to go away. Just maybe moved to the background and our front end more newbie friendly. It is what we get judged by when a perspective new miner comes to check out our pool. And we want them to feel as welcome and at home as possible. Like, yeah ok, I get this. They can find the details later. Then once they know more about mining and see what is under the hood compared to other pools, they'll be hooked. Maybe even make a different link for those of us who like the simple front end we have now.
Hmm, well maybe a "My Home" page of some sorts that's the default start when you login ...
But it's gotta avoid trying to turn the whole web site into one page coz that means the page they refresh all the time is the page that does the most work on the main server and the web server.
sr. member
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4) 'Flashy'
Well, if it involves anything like flash or other scripting languages to produce animated images, then that's completely out.

The bottom line is that the site contains more than the necessary information, it's fast to load, and it's secure.

... and a bit of information about the current web server - it's Load Average is usually around 0.00 to 0.01 - and it handles about 150-200K requests a day at the moment.
Flashy was probably an incorrect choice on my part. I think just something that looks more polished and slick than just our text and numbers. I know that we have WAY more info available to us about pool performance than any other pool. And I wouldn't want any of that to go away. Just maybe moved to the background and our front end more newbie friendly. It is what we get judged by when a perspective new miner comes to check out our pool. And we want them to feel as welcome and at home as possible. Like, yeah ok, I get this. They can find the details later. Then once they know more about mining and see what is under the hood compared to other pools, they'll be hooked. Maybe even make a different link for those of us who like the simple front end we have now.
legendary
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Evil beware: We have waffles!
Gotta agree 100% with ^^.
Ever since my Compuserve dial-up days I still relish small fast data dl - these days aka fast page loading. The caching used in the early new-fangled web (still dialup) --- once the pics for a sites background were cached, pretty but god forbid ya go to a different new page  Shocked Static pages is fine by me since a quick ctrl-R and page is reloaded at will anyway. If I want to see near RT performance I'll look at what Awesome Miner says how the farm is doing.

Don't even get me going on cross-site scripting (non) security...

edit: Well I'll be damned. that brief trip back got me to looking to see if Gopher still lived. It does! Reborn for The Evil Web as GoodGopher Poking around there now...
edit edit: Good Gopher's Independent Media filter list of sources is rather - out there - but they do also have an Academia list filter. That is looking damn good at filtering out Fringe material Wink
legendary
Activity: 4634
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
... something flashy to look at. Coz we gotta grow as a pool or the variance is only gonna get worse. Surely there have to be some web page designers among us that would be willing to pitch in.
Yeah there's a few requirements in that though that most web designers don't understand Smiley
(and most pools don't understand either)

I'll list them here so if anyone else is interested in doing anything, they'll know the requirements.
1) Requests (as few as possible)
When you access a page on our web site, it returns one blob of text, and the only other request your browser makes is to get the tiny images in the top left (usually just the eye)
Though, the index page (that's not much use except the first time you visit the site) includes the background image.

Most web sites break everything up into multiple files that the browser caches, but the browser has to check each one with multiple requests across the internet.

2) Page size
If you've looked as the actual page size for most pages on our web site, they are quite small, even with everything required included in the one file.
The Blocks page is only 51K in total.

3) Security
Most web sites cross link scripts to other web sites and other sources.

Visit any good bank and you'll find they don't do that ... for a reason.
It only takes a DNS hack or even a web site hack, where any of the other content comes from, and then someone can EASILY hack into you.

4) 'Flashy'
Well, if it involves anything like flash or other scripting languages to produce animated images, then that's completely out.

The bottom line is that the site contains more than the necessary information, it's fast to load, and it's secure.

... and a bit of information about the current web server - it's Load Average is usually around 0.00 to 0.01 - and it handles about 150-200K requests a day at the moment.
legendary
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Evil beware: We have waffles!
Don't argue with idiots, kanosan.  First they drag you down to their level, then they beat you with experience.  Cheesy
Ja, but as you've so often seen with me one still has to try and point the confused one in the right direction to understand how mining/pools/etc work.

If they insist on remaining well then...
sr. member
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It runs that way sometimes. In August, just after the halving, it was a slow dismal fight with lack luster performance. Then last November sucked something terrible. After that December came and it was even worse. January look like it wasn't going to do anything, then ended up pulling it out to almost 100%. Then boom, February hit and we kicked ass and I bought 5 more miners. March sucked again. In April we kicked so much ass I made enough buy 10 new miners. There's just no predicting it. It's just luck.

To me it always seems like every time I buy a new miner, luck turns to shit. Or every time I have an important transfer, we run into 50 minutes network block and the mempool backs up and I wind up getting my transaction stuck for an unending period of time.

So it comes down too this. Do you trust that the pool op is doing his job or not? If not, find a pool where you feel that way. If you do, then mine on and sacrifice some damn chickens.

I for one will be happy to see the accounting portion done, as it think it will make it more newbie friendly. I would also like to see the pools web front end look more polished. I know we got way more info available than any other pool. But I think the newbies, for the most part, aren't gonna see that. They need something flashy to look at. Coz we gotta grow as a pool or the variance is only gonna get worse. Surely there have to be some web page designers among us that would be willing to pitch in.
hero member
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I'm in BTC XTC
Don't argue with idiots, kanosan.  First they drag you down to their level, then they beat you with experience.  Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 4634
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Or maybe it's just that the last 3 months *really* sucked. and this month is shaping up to be the same.
How is it the same?

... and September being average 99.80% PPS seems quite a lot better than "*really* sucked" Tongue
The CDF[Erl] of 0.7642 means about 1 in 4.24 months that's expected to be worse.

excuse me while I slow clap for you....
Then find another pool?
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
lol, you would delete that post.
Yeah I deleted a pointless post that shared no information and shows no understanding of statistics Tongue
... posted while I was adding the details.
newbie
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Or maybe it's just that the last 3 months *really* sucked. and this month is shaping up to be the same.
How is it the same?

... and September being average 99.80% PPS seems quite a lot better than "*really* sucked" Tongue
The CDF[Erl] of 0.7642 means about 1 in 4.24 months that's expected to be worse.

excuse me while I slow clap for you....
newbie
Activity: 38
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lol, you would delete that post.
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Or maybe it's just that the last 3 months *really* sucked. and this month is shaping up to be the same.
How is it the same?

... and September being average 99.80% PPS seems quite a lot better than "*really* sucked" Tongue
The CDF[Erl] of 0.7642 means about 1 in 4.24 months (with 50 blocks) that's expected to be worse.
If the blocks is smaller, then it's even more likely.
newbie
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Or maybe it's just that the last 3 months *really* sucked. and this month is shaping up to be the same.
full member
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Well, the real issue is understanding when something 'might' be wrong.
We just had a run of 7 really lucky blocks, a 112% OK block, then now one approaching 300% ... so yeah I'm not sure why the subject of "OMG bad luck" comes up on a single block after that run of 8 ... just look at the previous 2 blocks even Tongue

I think it just hits a little harder while the fees are so high and we aren't getting any.
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
I've been mining on here for quite a long time and was aware of this possibility. I hope kano can figure it out, it just seems a bit ironic that this pool did so well for so long and then the luck just goes down, I guess as many will say that is luck, but thats just the easy answer. Once he's able to get everything sorted out i'll be back in a flash, but I need to get a return on my investment (power) unfortunately I don't get it for free. and last month wasn't spectacular. Here's to hoping I am wrong and November ends as a bright green month.
I wasn't trying to single you out with my post. Just all the people who constantly post the same crap, most of whom don't even mine here. In retrospect, I probably should have picked one of their posts to quote, but I just grabbed the last one in the thread.

And I'm definitely not saying we shouldn't question what's going on with the pool. Since it is all our money we should always be questioning what's going on. When the pool op says, Ok I'm checking on it. Then reports back that everything is as it should be. You either gotta believe him or move on. Coz if you don't believe it now, nothing else they say is gonna convince you either.
Well, the real issue is understanding when something 'might' be wrong.
We just had a run of 7 really lucky blocks, a 112% OK block, then now one approaching 300% ... so yeah I'm not sure why the subject of "OMG bad luck" comes up on a single block after that run of 8 ... just look at the previous 2 blocks even Tongue
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