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legendary
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Well what that means is the 'Ledger' is watching 2 blockchains - not just BTC, but BCH also.
Will be interesting to see if the 'brand new' BCH chain code is reliable ...

Anyway, from now on, the two are unrelated, except that the addresses in each use the same keys.
sr. member
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Kano I have a question....  do miners have to pick on which of the 2 networks they need to mine the BTC or BCC?  Or do we just mine regularly and if we do then we just receive the BTC or the BCC as well?  Might be a dumb question but I pretty new to this stuff.   Undecided
We mine BTC only.
From the fork onwards, new block rewards and new transactions are only one side or the other.

If you have a wallet you control, you can clone it and make it into a BCH wallet using the BCH version of bitcoin.
However, it muxt have been done before the fork, to 'just work'
After the fork (now) you have to roll back the blocks and transaction since the fork, so what bitcoin does is effectively wipe it all and start again, but using your keys from your wallet, it of course doesn't wipe the wallet, and then rebuilds everything back up to the fork, then continues on again on the other fork.

WARNING, if you do clone your wallet, I've heard from someone who did it, that the fork bitcoin client uses the same folders by default, so will overwrite you bitcoin data.
Thus you'd have to use the datadir option to point it to another folder, or better, run the clone on another computer.

I see, so there will be created some pools to mine BCC only?  It has to be mined by someone right? Huh 

And yes I have all of the BTC in my Ledger Nano, although they told me yesterday that it will take them a while and they don't know how to resolve the split issue in the older version of the Ledger wallet.  But they said that the holders of the new versions of their wallets such as Ledger Nano S should be able to see both balances right away in BTC and BCC.  So I was told to buy a new Nano S wallet and do a recovery from my old one.  Smiley.  Thanks Kano!
legendary
Activity: 4634
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Kano I have a question....  do miners have to pick on which of the 2 networks they need to mine the BTC or BCC?  Or do we just mine regularly and if we do then we just receive the BTC or the BCC as well?  Might be a dumb question but I pretty new to this stuff.   Undecided
We mine BTC only.
From the fork onwards, new block rewards and new transactions are only one side or the other.

If you have a wallet you control, you can clone it and make it into a BCH wallet using the BCH version of bitcoin.
However, it muxt have been done before the fork, to 'just work'
After the fork (now) you have to roll back the blocks and transaction since the fork, so what bitcoin does is effectively wipe it all and start again, but using your keys from your wallet, it of course doesn't wipe the wallet, and then rebuilds everything back up to the fork, then continues on again on the other fork.

WARNING, if you do clone your wallet, I've heard from someone who did it, that the fork bitcoin client uses the same folders by default, so will overwrite you bitcoin data.
Thus you'd have to use the datadir option to point it to another folder, or better, run the clone on another computer.
sr. member
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Kano I have a question....  do miners have to pick on which of the 2 networks they need to mine the BTC or BCC?  Or do we just mine regularly and if we do then we just receive the BTC or the BCC as well?  Might be a dumb question but I pretty new to this stuff.   Undecided
sr. member
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Payout Information Smiley

So the payout handling for B-Day (yeah I think that name is an appropriate play on D-Day) will be as follows:

I'm queueing up 478254 and 478261 right now to go out as soon as they Mature - as per normal.

The 'expected' Maturity times at the moment are: ~3:50am (478254) and ~5:00am UTC (478261)
That gives a bit over 19 hours to confirm them before 1-Aug 0:20 UTC

Currently we expect to average ~13hrs per block so there's a reasonably high probability they will both be confirmed before B-Day
If not, well I don't REALLY think it matters, but we'll see anyway Smiley

478295, on the other hand is expected to Mature at ~10:40am UTC, and with the ~13hrs before it's average 'expected to be confirmed', that lands it close to B-Day arrival time.

So, I'll hold back sending out the payment for 478295 (and any blocks found after 478295) until tomorrow.

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Again, I don't see why there should be any problems at all with Bitcoin on B-Day, but considering the melodrama going around, it's not really that big a deal to add a short delay to just a few payouts.

... and anyone who is really concerned can also have me hold their 'unqueued' payouts until they are no longer concerned Smiley as per the web site says.

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Edit: I also set 42,000 sat in each one as a txn fee - about $1 Tongue - to see if that makes others confirm them also.
The Bitcoin transaction rate really has dropped recently - often block aren't full - so there's probably a higher chance of it getting into another pool's block if there's some tiny fee in it.
Anyway - we'll see if that makes any difference for those 2 payouts.

Thanks Kano!  Indeed all payouts came in before the D day.  I transferred both to cold storage but didn't have the time to transfer the last one but it's ok, let's see what happens to it lol.
legendary
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The white listed 'vip' node in LA failed over the users on it at 14:02 - it was a failover with a failback a minute later.
All ok again.
legendary
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For those interested Smiley
This might actually be working - it now shows no BCH blocks ... correctly ... 5 mins before the 'fork'
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/blocks

That might well show reasonably quickly (hours) how much hash rate has gone from Bitcoin.

or https://www.btcforkmonitor.info/
Well the 12:20pm 'median time' passed a while ago - still no sign of a fork yet.
I guess they might have a 'very small turnout' and take some time to make a fork block ...

I'm not 100% certain if they just stop at block 478557 until they find a fork block, or they keep going until they find a fork block on the 'current BTC block'
But the blockchair site seems to have stopped at 478557 so I guess that was the Bitcoin block that met the median 12:20am UTC requirement
legendary
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Nope.
Simple 'roadmap' for that already exists ... and posted a few times.
legendary
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Bitcoin Talks Bullshit Walks
If anyone wants me to hold their payouts - they can request it (but send an email from your pool account email address to the address you get pool messages from)
However, the held payouts will sit in your dust fund until I do the dust processing code, some time in the future, in a galaxy far far away.

Also, tell me ASAP, coz once I've created the payout for any block, which is before it matures, I'd have to redo the payout from scratch to change anything, and of course once it's matured, the transaction is out on the bitcoin network, so I certainly wont be trying to double spend it, to change it.

It's not an on, off, on, off, on, off thing I will be doing, just a once off thing now you can request over the next few days, then later request it back on again.

Edit: OK added a link to here, on the web site also.

Why don't you save yourself from all this hassle and just setup a payout like most all pools do. I know it's not from lack of coding ability.  Set a small withdrawal fee and that's that.  You've been talking about this for cpl years. I'd say either get it done or just say that's going to be donation to the pool.  When someone tells me it's gonna get done some time in future in a galaxy far far away basically says to me it's never getting done. You need to take a stand get it done and stop leading on the little miners that could actually be receiving a payout from other pools.  Granted it may be less but if you never pay the other pools look much better.   How about a roadmap of some sort please and thank you.

Ps. Hell of ya have to use code from mpos. That'll save loads of time

Best Regards
Doug
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I'm all clear on payments as well. Reminds me of the brouhaha around the last two halvings...  Cool

hope so.

Oh my avalon 741 comes on tues  just in time for the new era.

Waiting too for 2 S9s to ship in August!  Sad
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
For those interested Smiley
This might actually be working - it now shows no BCH blocks ... correctly ... 5 mins before the 'fork'
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/blocks

That might well show reasonably quickly (hours) how much hash rate has gone from Bitcoin.

or https://www.btcforkmonitor.info/
legendary
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Okay is it now August 1? and if so has anything started?

first new block

https://blockchain.info/blocks


https://blockchain.info/block-height/478479

The BIP148 split was a no-sho it seems, everyone had already moved to BIP91

The Bitcash hard fork happens around 12:20 UTC today. Thats when there should be some ripples.
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Wow, nearly 40 hours without finding any blocks Shocked

Question, can't seem to find a list of pool servers to connect to. Help shows "stratum.kano.is" but that seems to be in the US. Is it recommended to use only that one or is a closer one a smarter move?
Try pinging any in the thread title to find the closest one to you.
i.e. de, sg, jp, nl, and nya.kano.is
Thx, works great! Two new miners on your pool Grin
Your welcome Smiley and cool, more miners Smiley
full member
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Wow, nearly 40 hours without finding any blocks Shocked

Question, can't seem to find a list of pool servers to connect to. Help shows "stratum.kano.is" but that seems to be in the US. Is it recommended to use only that one or is a closer one a smarter move?
Try pinging any in the thread title to find the closest one to you.
i.e. de, sg, jp, nl, and nya.kano.is
Thx, works great! Two new miners on your pool Grin
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Wow, nearly 40 hours without finding any blocks Shocked

Question, can't seem to find a list of pool servers to connect to. Help shows "stratum.kano.is" but that seems to be in the US. Is it recommended to use only that one or is a closer one a smarter move?
Try pinging any in the thread title to find the closest one to you.
i.e. de, sg, jp, nl, and nya.kano.is
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Dear kano,
Do you support mining Bitcoin Cash? We use the same asic miner to mine?

Regards,
It's an alt-coin - which I tend to completely stay clear of.

Unless it becomes what I consider 'valid', I'd not setup a pool, in my usual disinterest in being involved in scams, which it clearly currently is Tongue

Setting up a pool is simple enough, but it also depends on how reliable the bitcoind is, since if it's crashing or causing problems, that's a royal PITA coz it can mean wasted mining for everyone pointed at the pool when such things happen.
That's not something new, it happens all over the place, but you find that others pools don't tell you about it, or tell you what's going on ... ... ... ... ...

However, Core bitcoind is currently pretty reliable as a fast work generator, with minor changes Smiley and since I run a few on the main node, it's been a long time since there's been anything that could matter.
full member
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Wow, nearly 40 hours without finding any blocks Shocked

Question, can't seem to find a list of pool servers to connect to. Help shows "stratum.kano.is" but that seems to be in the US. Is it recommended to use only that one or is a closer one a smarter move?
member
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Dear kano,
Do you support mining Bitcoin Cash? We use the same asic miner to mine?

Regards,
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Well you'd have to look for rejected blocks in your bitcoin debug.log

Would that be these?

Code:
warning='20 of last 100 blocks have unexpected version'
No, they're just the different block version numbers - for segwit2x 0x20000012 or other guff with other numbers Smiley
The expected block version at the moment is 0x20000002

I've seen messages saying
"invalid block=" and "is marked invalid"
a bit over a week ago for a block with the hash "0000000000000000013ee4a86822d37a061732e04ee5f41fb77168f193363d1b" at 477115

So I'm guessing the message might be similar - but I'm not sure and have never checked the code to see what other such messages there are.

One simple way on linux to see all block messages other than the standard expected ones is:
grep 000000000 debug.log | grep -v "new best="
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Well you'd have to look for rejected blocks in your bitcoin debug.log

Would that be these?

Code:
warning='20 of last 100 blocks have unexpected version'
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