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Quote from: efialtis on March 17, 2020, 10:17:03 AM

Well, they just abandoned their project it seems, meaning we were "successful", no? Too bad there is nothing we can do in order to warn more people. This thread doesnt seem to pop up on first page when googling "kawbet" - I guess I will have to seo OP a bit more. Wink

I don't know details about SEO stuff... I think the word scam is key. If someone who is curious enough types "Kawbet Scam" this thread appears as number one in the Google results.
The Duckduckgoo search engine is funny thou, It shows totally nothing from bitcointalk

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Well, they just abandoned their project it seems, meaning we were "successful", no? Too bad there is nothing we can do in order to warn more people. This thread doesnt seem to pop up on first page when googling "kawbet" - I guess I will have to seo OP a bit more. Wink

Anyway, thanks for your input and support guys and every person we saved from becoming another "victim", is a win.

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Quote from: milrad89 on March 12, 2020, 01:44:48 PM

Hello
I have been rejected last night in try to withdraw some funds
fatal error - withdrawal blocked
support and security teams do not respond
any help?

Well, it seems a problem started to happen, even though it was someone's alt, maybe. Quote here so we can pay attention to the way they solve this problem Cheesy

Ideally, they should solve this problem well, if not, it's a good way to identify them as unreliable, like 1xbet.

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Quote from: bitbollo on March 12, 2020, 01:02:48 AM

@Chuckbuck
no. this is not an old image. this screenshot has been made few minutes before to be posted here. (price are in EUR)

Oh sorry

It's my bad Cheesy

Maybe I should be more careful next time Cheesy

Quote from: efialtis on March 12, 2020, 07:23:59 AM

Goes to show a lot, you launch a brand, try to push it on the biggest platform there is (by target audience) and then... Roll Eyes

The signature campaign as a cheap means to buy people's trust in their platform Roll Eyes

as soon as they have a rock blocking the way, they stop the operation, they are definitely looking for another way Cheesy

But clearly this thorn comes from their subjectivity

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Your thread obviously put them on the back foot as it caught them off guard. I have no idea who exactly owns the conveyor belt websites but it looks they might be having a re-think about their strategy. There is something about all the websites that share that same template that makes them untrustworthy more so after being named here.

Quote from: efialtis on March 12, 2020, 07:23:59 AM

Symptomatic they haven’t logged in since March 8th?! Most likely already working on the next „brand“ and being a bit more cautious? Wink

Goes to show a lot, you launch a brand, try to push it on the biggest platform there is (by target audience) and then... Roll Eyes

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Symptomatic they haven’t logged in since March 8th?! Most likely already working on the next „brand“ and being a bit more cautious? Wink

Goes to show a lot, you launch a brand, try to push it on the biggest platform there is (by target audience) and then... Roll Eyes

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Sorry guys, I am an ingenuous, and my moral compass "is not for sale". This is why I was surprised about that

@Chuckbuck
no. this is not an old image. this screenshot has been made few minutes before to be posted here. (price are in EUR)

@Thekool1s
section Investor based games has a big disclaimer and people can post comments helping others against scam... I think this is likely an heritage of the past (a time when there were very few services that accepted bitcoins)...

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Quote from: bitbollo on March 11, 2020, 01:19:54 PM

1xbit is advertised directly in coinmarketcap, look screenshot ! Embarrassed

No wonder 1xbit is advertised on coinmarket or anywhere else, even etherscan.io. These websites don't care about ethics, they only care about the profits they can make through ad space. It can be said that this forum is the only place that rejects phishing websites Cheesy

Quote from: ChipMixer on January 22, 2018, 02:08:34 PM

Quote from: btcton on January 21, 2018, 10:51:45 PM

You cannot even trust Google on this

Some companies (Google) will advertise known scams. Some people (theymos) will not advertise possible scam (ICOs) even if it costs them (around 9 BTC per week). This is a reason why ChipMixer buy ads at this forum and not on Google.

But I was shocked by your image for 5 seconds. I had to check the Bitcoin price right away and I realized your image was old LOL Grin

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Why you're surprised? CMC previously advertised Yobit - seems they care more about money than moral.

Let's not talk about morals here... Scams aren't moderated here either... We have a section for Investor based games for crying out loud! Let's not get on high-horse of morality, when we haven't done anything about it either...

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Quote from: bitbollo on March 11, 2020, 01:19:54 PM

https://i.ibb.co/GW6wwft/Schermata-2020-03-11-alle-19-15-56.png

1xbit is advertised directly in coinmarketcap, look screenshot ! Embarrassed

Why you're surprised? CMC previously advertised Yobit - seems they care more about money than moral.
And you can see banners of 1xbet on every major football league, it's obvious that they have deep pockets for marketing.

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1xbit is advertised directly in coinmarketcap, look screenshot ! Embarrassed

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guess who's back

IDK if people remember but in the last few months there were tons of accounts created trying to bring 1xbit back to the forums , I guess efialtis remembers that
basically they were trying hard to attract players again through new accounts , you will see newbie account asking about the site and another newbie saying something like he is making a lot of money with 1xbit
we all know that 1xbet and their branches are pure scam and this site is clearly completely related to them

even the accusations in their thread regarding locking accounts , it's 100% similar to 1xbit since I had that in the past
they will tell you account is frozen and when you try to log in the site will show that you have wrong username or password
live support will tell you to contact their security team and the security team will say that you violate their toc or something like that
after that they will never reply to you and they won't mention what exactly you did broke ( they never ask you for your ID which is a standard when a site suspects a fraud )

I strongly support the flag and I do believe that anyone who is dealing with them has a very high chance of losing his total balance without even hearing back from the site

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on March 09, 2020, 01:05:36 PM

Quote from: AB de Royse777 on March 09, 2020, 08:03:03 AM

Quote from: dillpicklechips on March 09, 2020, 07:16:49 AM

As i can see they are under "white label". They must start new operation for their gambling in their own scratch Grin

than taking short cut and the result show.

Turns out that they picked the wrong service providers. We have seen other bookies around ex: Sportsbet.io, fortunejack.com, cloudbet.com and some others. They also use some providers. May be they need to find a good reputed service provider and start over everything than sticking to this shady betB2B.

Doing anything from scratch I think is not much possible for a startup. We are talkiing about providing bet for few hundreds plus matches in more than 10 sporting events. Having these many people behind a startup will cost billions I guess.

It's possible that they will come back and this time they have taken note of everything, of course everybody wants to establish a good gambling casinos that will run for a long time, but one thing that they did not consider is whom they will associate with, provided they are a different team apart from the team that manage the 1xbet/1xbit.

Yeah, what a wise statement... - thanks for your valuable input! ...

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Quote from: AB de Royse777 on March 09, 2020, 08:03:03 AM

Quote from: dillpicklechips on March 09, 2020, 07:16:49 AM

As i can see they are under "white label". They must start new operation for their gambling in their own scratch Grin

than taking short cut and the result show.

Turns out that they picked the wrong service providers. We have seen other bookies around ex: Sportsbet.io, fortunejack.com, cloudbet.com and some others. They also use some providers. May be they need to find a good reputed service provider and start over everything than sticking to this shady betB2B.

Doing anything from scratch I think is not much possible for a startup. We are talkiing about providing bet for few hundreds plus matches in more than 10 sporting events. Having these many people behind a startup will cost billions I guess.

It's possible that they will come back and this time they have taken note of everything, of course everybody wants to establish a good gambling casinos that will run for a long time, but one thing that they did not consider is whom they will associate with, provided they are a different team apart from the team that manage the 1xbet/1xbit.

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Quote from: dillpicklechips on March 09, 2020, 07:16:49 AM

As i can see they are under "white label". They must start new operation for their gambling in their own scratch Grin

than taking short cut and the result show.

Turns out that they picked the wrong service providers. We have seen other bookies around ex: Sportsbet.io, fortunejack.com, cloudbet.com and some others. They also use some providers. May be they need to find a good reputed service provider and start over everything than sticking to this shady betB2B.

Doing anything from scratch I think is not much possible for a startup. We are talkiing about providing bet for few hundreds plus matches in more than 10 sporting events. Having these many people behind a startup will cost billions I guess.

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Thanks for removing it and thank you very much for your understanding, will do the same.

To answer your question directed at me: I will not promote and/or work for any business as soon as deposited/invested money is at "high" risk. And in this case there are way too many red flags...

Again, I am the last person to randomly bash any serious and legit business...

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Quote from: efialtis on March 08, 2020, 03:58:17 AM

Lol! And you giving me negative feedback claiming „multiple account user“ to bash casinos? Haha, you guys are so shady. Going to tag you in a few minutes.

Busy schedule recently but now removed tag.I now see your point: kawbet is claimed to be scam site. Im part of the team responsible for the forum campaign management program, i respect your point of view and not against with it.
I just want to clarify things to you. i.e will you let down your partner program when someone just started a accusations? Im more concerned helping them here in forum, they didnt know much and shocked.

Quote from: efialtis on March 08, 2020, 03:58:17 AM

Plus how come the sudden change of mind?

We have different views in this case, where i have contacted KawBet for their response regarding this.

KawBet accusation:
payment system "scam"/ same address
Web-User interface/template/Design
Accounts taking down

I updated them days ago. I only got response to stop the campaign here for a while.
I will continously contact them to be aware of this.

As i can see they are under "white label". They must start new operation for their gambling in their own scratch Grin

than taking short cut and the result show.

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I agree with @logfiles's conclusion of Betb2b being owned by 1xbet but that still doesn't explain why Kawbet is using the deposit addresses used by 1xbit... IMO @royse777 explanation doesn't really explain why they would use the same addresses as pointed out by others that other operators using the same script are actually in control of the funds. I do have a theory on why Kawbet might be using 1xbit's deposit addresses... It's most likely that Kawbet owes 1xbet money and they will first recover those funds by being in control of funds deposited at Kawbet and once the amount due has been paid off they will get control over the deposits and withdrawals... As @Royse777 mentioned these scripts do cost a lot upfront so it's plausible that Kawbet got into an agreement of sorts with 1xbet where they are allowed to use their script but not have control over the funds which are being deposited... But if this is the case it doesn't paint a positive image of Kawbet, if they can't afford the script with an upfront payment then how in the world are they offering up to 7 BTC Deposit Bonus... Huh

Unless this script costs in millions which I doubt it does doesn't really help Kawbet's case here...

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Quote from: aioc on March 08, 2020, 11:26:59 PM

They failed to generate support from the local board and there's no explanation until now, one thing that baffles me is, are operators of the linked gambling sites Filipinos or coming from the Philippines, they did not promote their other gambling site in the local board only Kawbet, maybe they are in partnership, they have a good start but it ends here.

They have a bit explanation through this link (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/asking-for-support-sa-mga-kabayan-5231056)

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Lahat po ng paninira ay hindi totoo and kung may ma ban mang accounts yun ay mga naka flag na players dahil sa sportsbook fraud, kadalasan mga taga ibang bansa na may multiple accounts/corridor betting.

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All the defamation is not true and if some of the accounts would be banned, it's because that players has been flag for sportsbook fraud, usually foreigners with multiple accounts/corridor betting.

They need to make an explanation as well on why both deposit addresses in their website and 1xbit are the same. They're insisting to all the defamation, but I don't know why they don't have any response right now, there could be a reason.

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Quote from: Baofeng on March 08, 2020, 08:03:28 PM

Quote from: pilosopotasyo on March 08, 2020, 12:28:28 PM

They have an announcement in Pilipinas local board : Pianaka unang bitcoin casino sa pinas! -Kawbet.com First Bitcoin Casino in the Philippines,
are those other sites we associate with kawbet are also Filipinos or are they doing a collaboration?

I'm sure they will come out with an explanation or they will not, there is no shortcut to clear the allegations but the truth, and if they don't have it, then that settles everything.

Right, and we did question kawbet using the name of coins.ph, as if they are affiliated with that local exchange platform. And we all know that coins.ph prohibited and against their Terms and Conditions. So it is a bit misleading coming from kawbet. But they never come back on that thread when Pilipinas board reputable members questioned them.

They failed to generate support from the local board and there's no explanation until now, one thing that baffles me is, are operators of the linked gambling sites Filipinos or coming from the Philippines, they did not promote their other gambling site in the local board only Kawbet, maybe they are in partnership, they have a good start but it ends here.

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