Topic: ▂▃▅▆▇⫷[ 🆉🅿🅾🅾🅻.🅲🅰 ]⫸⫷[!KAWPOW!]⫸⫷[ the miners multipool ]⫸ ▇▆▅▃▂ - page 205. (Read 279744 times)

Algo?

Is the website having issues again? its showing all my rigs at 1/2 hashrates... just wanted to bring it up so if there is a problem it can be fixed
Im ASSUMING im getting full credit, as the accepted shares on the miner itself are normal hashrates, just noticed the website was showing everything by half

What crackfoo was saying above was that the pool mines more than one coin on each algo (unless that algo only has one coin associated).

That being said:
Your miners are fed workunits for whatever coin the pool  feels is best for your hashrate to work on.  So;  if you have been credited for mining another coin;  the pool will therefore have to mine more of the coin you wish to be payed out in just to fill the hash/rewards that was used to mine other coins on the same algo....

When the other coins you have mined are sold on the exchange, often its fulfilling a open buy order and not creating a sell order;  so the value of the minted coins is usually lower than the current market rate which may be a sell order fulfilled before the buy order is made;  thus the value of your percentage mined was reduced on those coins;  and thus a drop in estimated owed balance.


Hopefully these details help you understand more of whats going on; and why on the main zpool webpage it highly recommends payouts to be in BTC and not an altcoin.

Pretty sure it's been said, this isn't a solo mining pool even if there is only one coin it's pegged off the market prices.

We have been feeding you realisim and logic.

You have been providing estimates and approximations.

Where's the fault going to be when weighing those two statements I just gave?

If estimates were facts; the stock market would never loose value and only increase.


Also you neglected to provide network diff and pool hashrates per coin involved, as well as amount of hash divide between the coins.  The market is just one swaying factor amongst MANY.

So you found a way to make 33% more than mining here . . . why are you still here?

it is not relevant answer......they doubt only about market and difficulty......but nemosminer calculating with difficulty so estimates can not be so wrong 5 dyas in row 40 pct ,auto switching its like 30min a day waste
second i chcecked every coin i mined in 24h here on zpool.ca whole market..cryptocurrency is up 10-30 pct and staying there till now so its impossible to change for lover rate we mined so if nemosminer showed WORST 0.014 btc day rig always mined higher so lets say 0.017 btc in average x 3rigs its in day between 0.042-0.051 btc/day i cant get 3 from 5 days in row under 0.022btc/day

third.......i try mined only equilhas algo for 12 hours.....results are impressive one rig mined on zpool.ca other  mined on flypool.org both are same 7x1080ti

what i mined on zpool.ca with equilhas is exactly 33 pct lower then i mined in same time on flypool.org can you somehow explain to me this parallel 12h test ?

other have responded appropriately. I've nothing to add.

WHAT IS CONFUSING ME THAT MODERATOR OF THE ZPOOL.CA EVEN DO NOT BOTHER GIVE RELEVANT (MEANT LOGIC BASED ON MATHEMATICS CALCULATIONS NOT BASED ON WHAT HE THINKS) ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS.....

Thanks a lot. Mining isn't as simple as just pointing it a pool and expecting to rain gold like other people think. Looks like you've got it figured out and doing some smart mining.

As for ZEC, we don't quite have enough hashrate to make it feasible to put hashrate on it yet. The pool is still not quite as fast as I would like it which can result in longer periods of bad/good luck making it seem not profitable to the average miner.  Right now it's 3days to find a block. Most miners can't wait that long to not see their trough filling with earnings. If we can sustain ~2Msol I think it might be enough to flip it as active for mining.

Thanks!

The estimates are estimates.  The market fluctuates way to much for accurate predictions.  You say the whole market was up . . . which market?  Poloniex?  Bittrex?  Cryptopia? Yobit? etc?  Were the specific coins that you mined here up? Which ones and for how long?  Were they still up when they were exchanged?  There are zero ways for you to prove the assumptions you are are making.  The best way to see how much you will make, is to mine and see how much you make!  Comparing it to estimates based on assumptions is silly.  Its strictly a guideline and if you are anywhere near it (+- 50%) then roll with it.  If you think you can do better, then go do better.  You';ve basically proven, that with your hardware and software setup, that you mine 30% less then what is predicted by your software.  Congrats, you now have a baseline to work from.

Bottom line, is that there is nothing that is going to change on the pool to change your profits.  If you think you should be making more, then its in your miner, your methods and your hardware that need to change.  I'd recommmend asking Nemosminer these questions since they really don't have anything to do with the pool itself.

You're trying to compare theoretical calculations to actual results. They will never match.

1. Your displayed hash rate does not equal the pools hash rate. Also, its not even hash rate that matters. It is accepted shares. Hash rate is just the calculation of the speed of your accepted shares.
2. Bad shares.
3. Time not hashing due to changing algos. When trying to chase the most profitable you are also spending a lot of time changing and not hashing at all. I've calculated this loss to be 2%-5%.
4. I know it appears intuitive if the markets are up, I should get more BTC. yes and no. you have to remember BTC is still compared to the USD and CNY. The majority of the altcoins are paired with BTC only. You'll see a USD value but it is just a calculation.
5. Difficulty.. This is so important. When I first starting I could not understand why I was making money which the value of the coin was actually going down! It's all due to difficulty. When the value went down, I was mining blocks faster which generated more coins.

This whole system is a giant mess of difficulty changes and fluctuation in 1000s of markets which are only paired to a couple assets. I think things will stay crazy until bitcoin settles down. Confidence in the markets. Why should investors invest if the devs / users/ miners are all being a bunch of knuckleheads right now?

These tools are just that, tools. Some people use them, some people don't. If there is one thing I learned the last 6 months, it is to relax and learn. This is a hobby, nothing more. If it generates income, good, if it doesn't, I had fun.


one more thing, I only mine 3-4 algos at a time. I don't like how much this program switches. You can remove the algos you do not want to mine in the start.bat file. good luck.

I just wanted to say that I've been using Zpool over the last 3 weeks or so to check it out.
I really like the payout in BTC, and I'm also very impressed that crackfoo pays the payout fees too!
A couple of days ago I noticed 30000 miners using neoscrypt I wondered what that was about lol.
At the moment I have just one 1080ti up and running, although I'm planning for another soon - they sure aren't cheap in Australia.
Although profits have been down a little for a few weeks I was trying to compare to nicehash and it seems like on average I make about 20-30% more.
Nicehash was showing 1.2 mBTC for a 1080ti over yesterday according to their calculator, and I bought in about 1.7. There are mods for nicehash like gaco that can increase profit for it a little but it's still under. These figures were consistant over 3 weeks or so with checking nicehash every couple of days.
So for those who persevere and don't take their profit calculation from 2 hours of mining, or the high spikes of temporarily inflated algorithms, I can highly recommend Zpool, also I've noticed twice with C11 and Veltor extended spikes that raised profits, this can happen sometimes with Zpool as there's many algorithms to use.
I just have one question and sorry if it's odd as I'm still new, but would anyone mind explaining how come zcash is greyed out and what that means ? I know that there's other equihash coins that we can still mine when we point to that port though.

p.s. everytime there's a pool error it's normally fixed quickly and the mining data is backed up anyways it seems. i didn't notice any profitability hit from recent pool events.

Thanks for the great work, Zpool.

The figures you are getting from Nemosminer is 100% estimated.  They are strictly a calculation based on your estimated hashrate and the estimated profitability from the pools calculations.  A single day run is not a long enough time to get a good average on your earnings.  Run it for a week minimum, then factor your average daily return; but then you also need to understand the market is continuously changing as well.  Your earnings WILL vary, sometimes significantly.  This is completely normal.  If you want consistency, then mine with Nicehash.  You won't make as much, generally, but your payment for your hashrate is instant.  It can project much more reliably, but even they have variability.

hi pls i think this poll not working correct every day since week iam getting less then projected money BTC/day

i have 3 rig 7*1080ti connected thought nemos miner 2.0.7 benchmarks are fine all 3 rigs almost same...minimum what i see last 2 days is 0.014 btc/day as projected by nemosminer, always is higher so i will count with minimum projected amount
24h ago my Total Unpaid balance was 0.01909095BTC during day i got 2 payments 0.01584247BTC and 0.01958058BTC from zpool.cz and finished after 24h with Total UNpaid 0.01175086 BTC so

PROJECTED.... by nemosminer min 0.014 BTC/day x 3rigs = 0.042 BTC/day real average day is around 0.018 * 3rigs = 0.054 BTC/day

REAL..... Total unpaid end day 0.01175086BTC - Total Unpaid strat day 0.01909095BTC + 2payots 0.01584247BTC + 0.01958058BTC = 0.02808296BTC

it is 33pct DIFFERENCE!!!! considering today whole market go UP its impossible......rigs are 24h monitoring no shutdown they running 24/7

only first day i connected my rigs to zpool.ca calculation was fine even market go down...from that its 5 days every day iam from 20-40pct lower than showing nemosminer 2.0.7



https://i.imgur.com/KwWsy6x.jpg

i cant minning equihash and x11 algo for zpool pls give pool setting for 2 algo. i use nemosminer 1.75

Something just doesn't appear right.

I am with Crackfoo on this, not everyone sits at home and monitors servers 24/7.... he can have a life also.. i just was posting to inform of a possible issue, had no immediate  concern about it, figured he would get the notification on his phone or something and get to it when he could..

Im just grateful i can still make profit from these terrible drops in coin values.. i have dropped all my rigs back to 60% tdp to make the mining as efficient as possible tell more of this dust settles and im not worried about loosing my ass on btc...

I find your lack of faith disturbing.