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newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
There's currently a warning about a lack of LTC, but it says Zpool is short by 7227602.25843751 LTC.

That seems excessively high. It has to be a bug, right?


Similar warnings/crazy numbers on Mona, Vert, Copper, CYR, BCF, and others.
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
There's currently a warning about a lack of LTC, but it says Zpool is short by 7227602.25843751 LTC.

That seems excessively high. It has to be a bug, right?
newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
Getting errors from API call http://www.zpool.ca/api/blocks:


Internal Server Error
Undefined offset: 0
An internal error occurred while the Web server was processing your request. Please contact the webmaster to report this problem.

Thank you.
legendary
Activity: 3486
Merit: 1126
Гдe мoи мoнeты ?! пoчeмy нeтy пepeвoдa ?!, дpyгиe пyлы пepeвoдят бeз пpoблeм !!!


there is no transfer of coins     Huh Huh Huh
Internal Server Error
Call to undefined function curl_init()
An internal error occurred while the Web server was processing your request. Please contact the webmaster to report this problem.

Thank you.

Stone (neoscrypt) (нeт тpaнзaкций!!!, ничeгo нe пepeвeли. A тaк жe yмeньшили  в пocлeдcтвии oбщee кoличecтвo мoнeт кoтopыe Я дoбыл !, и пocлe этoгo cдeлaли фиктивныe пepeвoды!)
Wallet: SXnmZTfcG8NMPbocvQRe1sCgYUp5MHhzHw


Monster (neoscrypt) (нeтy выплaты!)
Wallet: MUoWvrC83biu8uFjtAesmbLFMvCLgGLM9F

read the red warnings. The coins need to mine more blocks.

newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
Гдe мoи мoнeты ?! пoчeмy нeтy пepeвoдa ?!, дpyгиe пyлы пepeвoдят бeз пpoблeм !!!


there is no transfer of coins     Huh Huh Huh
Internal Server Error
Call to undefined function curl_init()
An internal error occurred while the Web server was processing your request. Please contact the webmaster to report this problem.

Thank you.

Stone (neoscrypt) (нeт тpaнзaкций!!!, ничeгo нe пepeвeли. A тaк жe yмeньшили  в пocлeдcтвии oбщee кoличecтвo мoнeт кoтopыe Я дoбыл !, и пocлe этoгo cдeлaли фиктивныe пepeвoды!)
Wallet: SXnmZTfcG8NMPbocvQRe1sCgYUp5MHhzHw


Monster (neoscrypt) (нeтy выплaты!)
Wallet: MUoWvrC83biu8uFjtAesmbLFMvCLgGLM9F
legendary
Activity: 1848
Merit: 1166
My AR-15 ID's itself as a toaster. Want breakfast?
Immature coins can be invalidated via orphan anything before they are "confirmed".

Block withholding attacks are a prime example on how you can suddenly loose earnings.

But, I don't see anything far out of whack there in your photos.

Remember, values of what was mined is not certain until it is in the final confirmed balance waiting to be paid out.

Maybe I should explain the picture better, specifically the second one.  In the second picture, in my last 50 coins, it shows I have not been award a coin for the last 6 hours.  Now look at the top half of the picture, 4 Vivo coins were found by ME just 4 hours earlier, one was orphaned, three I watched get confirmed.  If I found those coins only 4 hours earlier, 3 should show up in my last 50 coins; but they are not.  The Vivo coin is just an example, I found other coins and they did not show up as well, not to mention the other coins found, not by me, that I should have some credit for just being part of the pool.  I watched at least one of the coins show up on my last 50 coins column and then minutes later disappeared.  The disappearing coin could have been the orphaned coin but then what happen to the other 3 Vivo coins along with the other pool coins found while I was mining.  Something is not adding up.  Huh

Looking at the graph;  I see what you are getting at.

I do know sometimes the coin listing will lag behind the actual accrued amount;  see if its still that way in the next ~8 hours.   Sometimes its a simple as DB maintenance or a backup keeping it from updating....   Other times its disabled exchanges, etc...


Crackfoo will probably have further comment... but I do see what you are referencing.
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
Immature coins can be invalidated via orphan anything before they are "confirmed".

Block withholding attacks are a prime example on how you can suddenly loose earnings.

But, I don't see anything far out of whack there in your photos.

Remember, values of what was mined is not certain until it is in the final confirmed balance waiting to be paid out.

Maybe I should explain the picture better, specifically the second one.  In the second picture, in my last 50 coins, it shows I have not been award a coin for the last 6 hours.  Now look at the top half of the picture, 4 Vivo coins were found by ME just 4 hours earlier, one was orphaned, three I watched get confirmed.  If I found those coins only 4 hours earlier, 3 should show up in my last 50 coins; but they are not.  The Vivo coin is just an example, I found other coins and they did not show up as well, not to mention the other coins found, not by me, that I should have some credit for just being part of the pool.  I watched at least one of the coins show up on my last 50 coins column and then minutes later disappeared.  The disappearing coin could have been the orphaned coin but then what happen to the other 3 Vivo coins along with the other pool coins found while I was mining.  Something is not adding up.  Huh
legendary
Activity: 1848
Merit: 1166
My AR-15 ID's itself as a toaster. Want breakfast?
Immature coins can be invalidated via orphan anything before they are "confirmed".

Block withholding attacks are a prime example on how you can suddenly loose earnings.

But, I don't see anything far out of whack there in your photos.

Remember, values of what was mined is not certain until it is in the final confirmed balance waiting to be paid out.
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
Has anyone else seen this.  I was watching my miners (rented from NiceHash) around 10:35 EST and as coins were being found in the Pool, I was not getting credited my share.  Then for one scan of the web page is showed I'd received a 22% share of Vivo, then on the next web refresh it was gone.  You can see by the graph I was clearly mining but I was not being credited any coins that were found at the time.  Since I happened to be watching I saw my miners were in good shape, no disconnects, etc.  Moreover, why would one coin show up in my wallet at 22% share and then disappear?  I have stopped all my miners until someone at ZPool can explain this.  I've ask for support on their Discord server but no reply as of yet.  I had heard good things about this pool so I started mining with them about 2 weeks ago, but this makes me question everything.  If I had not been watching with my own eyes, I would never have caught it.  Was I wrong, and these guys are not trust worthy?  I caution everyone to keep a close eye on there miners if you continue to mine with them.

http://jerm.hashcube.com/Zpool-issue.jpg

there were a few vivo orphans around that time from what I can tell. They get removed if they've been orphaned in the blockchain....

My miner for the neoscrypt algo was going for about 5 minutes at that time, and it was my miner that found the coins (see screenshot, they are confirmed).  Also, multiple coins were found, not just Vivo, I'm just using that coin as an example.  I was not getting credit for any of them.  I should have been getting about 20% of the of all the coins found around that time for that short time frame.  I definitely got screwed, it was not orphaned coins.

http://jerm.hashcube.com/Zpool-issue2.jpg

To be clear, I'm not saying there weren't some orphaned coins, what I'm saying is of the ones that were found none were credited in my wallet and it was more than just the Vivo coin.  This has happened in the past where I would see mining activity but no increase in the balance of my wallet.  I just assumed no coins were found.  Now I'm starting to think coins were found but I didn't get any credit. And without constantly watching it no one would ever know.  If this is not a bug of some sort then ZPool is seriously shady.
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
Has anyone else seen this.  I was watching my miners (rented from NiceHash) around 10:35 EST and as coins were being found in the Pool, I was not getting credited my share.  Then for one scan of the web page is showed I'd received a 22% share of Vivo, then on the next web refresh it was gone.  You can see by the graph I was clearly mining but I was not being credited any coins that were found at the time.  Since I happened to be watching I saw my miners were in good shape, no disconnects, etc.  Moreover, why would one coin show up in my wallet at 22% share and then disappear?  I have stopped all my miners until someone at ZPool can explain this.  I've ask for support on their Discord server but no reply as of yet.  I had heard good things about this pool so I started mining with them about 2 weeks ago, but this makes me question everything.  If I had not been watching with my own eyes, I would never have caught it.  Was I wrong, and these guys are not trust worthy?  I caution everyone to keep a close eye on there miners if you continue to mine with them.

http://jerm.hashcube.com/Zpool-issue.jpg

there were a few vivo orphans around that time from what I can tell. They get removed if they've been orphaned in the blockchain....

My miner for the neoscrypt algo was going for about 5 minutes at that time, and it was my miner that found the coins (see screenshot, they are confirmed).  Also, multiple coins were found, not just Vivo, I'm just using that coin as an example.  I was not getting credit for any of them.  I should have been getting about 20% of the of all the coins found around that time for that short time frame.  I definitely got screwed, it was not orphaned coins.

http://jerm.hashcube.com/Zpool-issue2.jpg
legendary
Activity: 3486
Merit: 1126
Has anyone else seen this.  I was watching my miners (rented from NiceHash) around 10:35 EST and as coins were being found in the Pool, I was not getting credited my share.  Then for one scan of the web page is showed I'd received a 22% share of Vivo, then on the next web refresh it was gone.  You can see by the graph I was clearly mining but I was not being credited any coins that were found at the time.  Since I happened to be watching I saw my miners were in good shape, no disconnects, etc.  Moreover, why would one coin show up in my wallet at 22% share and then disappear?  I have stopped all my miners until someone at ZPool can explain this.  I've ask for support on their Discord server but no reply as of yet.  I had heard good things about this pool so I started mining with them about 2 weeks ago, but this makes me question everything.  If I had not been watching with my own eyes, I would never have caught it.  Was I wrong, and these guys are not trust worthy?  I caution everyone to keep a close eye on there miners if you continue to mine with them.



there were a few vivo orphans around that time from what I can tell. They get removed if they've been orphaned in the blockchain....
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
Has anyone else seen this.  I was watching my miners (rented from NiceHash) around 10:35 EST and as coins were being found in the Pool, I was not getting credited my share.  Then for one scan of the web page is showed I'd received a 22% share of Vivo, then on the next web refresh it was gone.  You can see by the graph I was clearly mining but I was not being credited any coins that were found at the time.  Since I happened to be watching I saw my miners were in good shape, no disconnects, etc.  Moreover, why would one coin show up in my wallet at 22% share and then disappear?  I have stopped all my miners until someone at ZPool can explain this.  I've ask for support on their Discord server but no reply as of yet.  I had heard good things about this pool so I started mining with them about 2 weeks ago, but this makes me question everything.  If I had not been watching with my own eyes, I would never have caught it.  Was I wrong, and these guys are not trust worthy?  I caution everyone to keep a close eye on there miners if you continue to mine with them.

http://jerm.hashcube.com/Zpool-issue.jpg
legendary
Activity: 1848
Merit: 1166
My AR-15 ID's itself as a toaster. Want breakfast?
The only explanation i have is that GIN coins i mined at first sold and than bought back with 10% higher price. And it is super ridiculous.

This isn't a solo pool. All blocks are pegged to exchange prices regardless. You get BTC for your work and it buys you your payout coins, based of exchange prices.

So thats mean that i am right. You selling all mined coins and than buying them back with higher prices (mostly) wasting quite a lot.

beczuse you get a % share of what is sold;  not what you want in return.   You can't take "your cut" from pool's earnings until "the next round".  So;  no.  In no way is the pool "buying them back".  Re-read my last two replies.  This exact mechanic is what makes it an earnings estimate.

An auto exchanging multipool functions quite differently than a solo pool.   
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
The only explanation i have is that GIN coins i mined at first sold and than bought back with 10% higher price. And it is super ridiculous.

This isn't a solo pool. All blocks are pegged to exchange prices regardless. You get BTC for your work and it buys you your payout coins, based of exchange prices.

So thats mean that i am right. You selling all mined coins and than buying them back with higher prices (mostly) wasting quite a lot.
newbie
Activity: 8
Merit: 0
Hi guys! Im a newbie. Can anyone help me

Im hashing for x16r algorithm but it seems im not getting it to my last 50 earnings.

Im using nemos miner 3.1
MSI 1080ti - driver version 397.93


Thank you in advance,
McCoy
legendary
Activity: 1848
Merit: 1166
My AR-15 ID's itself as a toaster. Want breakfast?
Explain me this please: I mined 4.9 GIN from GIN blocks but received only 4.4. Where my remaining 0.5 (10%)?
Example
The pool mines some GIN blocks among others.  You get a % value (converted to BTC as that's how the pool works) based on the exchange rate.

Coins get sent to be exchanged and divided among people whom have a % share.

BTC returns from the exchange; and are divided among the miners.

Since you want to be paid in GIN;  you wait for GIN to get mined to cover your share.   When they are mined and given to you;  their value is based on the previous sale.

This is how I understand the process to work.   There are more variables at play when it comes to mining something on a multi pool because this is not a solo mining pool.  

You are taking an estimate (4.9GIN) and treating it as an actual value.... which it is NOT.  It is an estimate.  If it was an actual value, it would have said 4.4;  but since that can't be determined until the BTC returns from the exchange, its is called an estimate.
Not my situation.
As I said, i mined 4.9 GIN from GIN blocks, its not estimate value, it is a sum of rewards per blocks. The only explanation i have is that GIN coins i mined at first sold and than bought back with 10% higher price. And it is super ridiculous.

I suggest re-reading my original reply.

You are not understanding the process, and more you are not understanding that initial shares of all coins mined is the estimate value before those coins go to be sold on the exchange.  
Only when the BTC returns from the exchange, do you know the actual value of your (% share in BTC) share mined from those coins
Then the pool will wait for more of your payout coin to be mined, and instead of selling some at the exchange, it can be exchanged by the pool internally at market rate to accumulate your payout.

On the mainpage of zpool.ca it says:
"This is NOT a solo mining pool. All mining is pegged to exchange prices."

Most algos have more than 1 coin on them.   Thus;  a LOT of variables (each coin) can have an effect on the overall value of the estimate after those coins pay a TX to go to the exchange, pay an exchange fee, then pay a tx fee to come back....      If this is a problem, please use a solo pool.

I added emphasis on the word estimate in my original reply, because its an important key factor that people seem to go to lengths to overlook.

legendary
Activity: 3486
Merit: 1126
Explain me this please: I mined 4.9 GIN from GIN blocks but received only 4.4. Where my remaining 0.5 (10%)?
Example
The pool mines some GIN blocks among others.  You get a % value (converted to BTC as that's how the pool works) based on the exchange rate.

Coins get sent to be exchanged and divided among people whom have a % share.

BTC returns from the exchange; and are divided among the miners.

Since you want to be paid in GIN;  you wait for GIN to get mined to cover your share.   When they are mined and given to you;  their value is based on the previous sale.

This is how I understand the process to work.   There are more variables at play when it comes to mining something on a multi pool because this is not a solo mining pool. 

You are taking an estimate (4.9GIN) and treating it as an actual value.... which it is NOT.  It is an estimate.  If it was an actual value, it would have said 4.4;  but since that can't be determined until the BTC returns from the exchange, its is called an estimate.
Not my situation.
As I said, i mined 4.9 GIN from GIN blocks, its not estimate value, it is a sum of rewards per blocks. The only explanation i have is that GIN coins i mined at first sold and than bought back with 10% higher price. And it is super ridiculous.

This isn't a solo pool. All blocks are pegged to exchange prices regardless. You get BTC for your work and it buys you your payout coins, based of exchange prices.
newbie
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
Explain me this please: I mined 4.9 GIN from GIN blocks but received only 4.4. Where my remaining 0.5 (10%)?
Example
The pool mines some GIN blocks among others.  You get a % value (converted to BTC as that's how the pool works) based on the exchange rate.

Coins get sent to be exchanged and divided among people whom have a % share.

BTC returns from the exchange; and are divided among the miners.

Since you want to be paid in GIN;  you wait for GIN to get mined to cover your share.   When they are mined and given to you;  their value is based on the previous sale.

This is how I understand the process to work.   There are more variables at play when it comes to mining something on a multi pool because this is not a solo mining pool. 

You are taking an estimate (4.9GIN) and treating it as an actual value.... which it is NOT.  It is an estimate.  If it was an actual value, it would have said 4.4;  but since that can't be determined until the BTC returns from the exchange, its is called an estimate.
Not my situation.
As I said, i mined 4.9 GIN from GIN blocks, its not estimate value, it is a sum of rewards per blocks. The only explanation i have is that GIN coins i mined at first sold and than bought back with 10% higher price. And it is super ridiculous.
newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
Looks like there is an issue with CANN, none of the txid can be found on blocker explore starting yesterday sometime.  Looks like it start around the following txid

https://www.zpool.ca/explorer/CANN?txid=2797e5ecbbf4f28e635fb99f4680e113d3dbcc0391a7bb3cec9146a688ba9ffa
legendary
Activity: 1848
Merit: 1166
My AR-15 ID's itself as a toaster. Want breakfast?
Explain me this please: I mined 4.9 GIN from GIN blocks but received only 4.4. Where my remaining 0.5 (10%)?
Example
The pool mines some GIN blocks among others.  You get a % value (converted to BTC as that's how the pool works) based on the exchange rate.

Coins get sent to be exchanged and divided among people whom have a % share.

BTC returns from the exchange; and are divided among the miners.

Since you want to be paid in GIN;  you wait for GIN to get mined to cover your share.   When they are mined and given to you;  their value is based on the previous sale.






This is how I understand the process to work.   There are more variables at play when it comes to mining something on a multi pool because this is not a solo mining pool. 

You are taking an estimate (4.9GIN) and treating it as an actual value.... which it is NOT.  It is an estimate.  If it was an actual value, it would have said 4.4;  but since that can't be determined until the BTC returns from the exchange, its is called an estimate.
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