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Hey man, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I assure you that this conversation happened. Think whatever you want to think, I don't have time to convince you. This is my life, and the things that transpire in it I have little control over. Particularly with the people that I meet, I never expected to have this conversation. And to shed more light on this we were only in the sauna for 10 minutes because the LA was closing and we continued the conversation out front after 10pm when it closed. The only thing that I can say, is that if this man was a con man he was pretty good one. He had photo evidence of himself with the queen of england, putin, the golden dragon, and so much more. He was showing me crazy pictures of himself in rooms full of gold, and boxes filled with trillions of dollars worth of goverment bonds. I can't make this shit up lol. He did mention he was a truste for all the royal families. All wild stuff, and why the heck would he be telling some random stranger he met in the sauna all this? Beats me man. He did mention he has nobody to talk about any of this, and he felt good about my energy so maybe thats why? lol idk man. But I appreciate your concern here Lucius, i'm trying to live in the real world here and go about my business. Every day the real world gets crazier and crazier!

Of course, why not spice up this fantasy of yours with a few more juicy details - why didn't you ask him to show you pictures of him and Satoshi Nakamoto at the time when they were creating Bitcoin together? I don't know what kind of drugs you're on, but I have no doubt that you made this all up, and some members seem to like your fabrications.

The next time you go to a sauna or a similar place, take a good look around you, maybe you'll see Elvis, or the US president will invite you to lunch at the White House. All this, of course, because of your special energy - sorry, I don't feel it, just a lot of bullshit...

I'm sorry m8 I just can't help but picture you as the Lucius Malfoy from Harry Potter and reading your comments in his voice lmao. I do have a pretty wild imagination but I'm not making this stuff up I can assure you and im not on drugs. What I can say is that I didn't even really scratch the surface on all of what was said in this post. Basically this dude claimed to be a financial officer that managed 8 world banks for a trust owned by you guessed it tha nati. The trust operates in the Cook Islands or something and is called the f1ve st4r tru5t. Look it up on Google without my fancy way of jotting it down. There was a script from a US court case on the SWIFT bank archives I dug into after this meeting this bloke for a court case involving the CIA and George Bush Sr.vs. the head of this trust ruling in favor of Bush and the CIA, nobody knows this stuff. Not that that really had anything to do with the contents of his claims about the CIA making BTC but just was interesting to go down that rabbit hole. He said Bush senior was and I quote "Worse than Hitler" He also spoke on covid and how the Vax basically turns people into a cell phone making you a receptor for 5G and how they are literally coding people right now. It changes their DNA, with all the high metal content that's in it, just crazy wild s$!t I could go on lol dude honestly probably was on a week long bender or something. Like I said it was entertaining. Will definitely keep an eye out for Elvis and Satoshi tho!
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I have heard one of these versions that the FBI created Bitcoin, but to be honest, it is obvious that this is not true. Judge for yourself, the FBI is just an organization, they have neither motives nor sufficient capacity to create Bitcoin. This is the development of Satoshi and only him.
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Well, this isn't the first time this theory was brought up. Even in the earliest years of Bitcoin, this was already a theory. Well, who can prove or disprove it? This Satoshi Nakamoto who supposedly developed Bitcoin is still a nobody until today, and will certainly remain so for the next decades unless solid and indubitable proofs are released.

So, that Bitcoin is actually an invention of the CIA or not will probably remain open for a long time. However, with its decentralized design, the moment it was released to the public, it is not theirs anymore. So, it is now moot and academic who Satoshi is, whether Satoshi is the CIA or Szabo or Dorian or CSW or one who's from India or whatever.
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So here was a very intriguing encounter that I had, about 3 or 4 months ago. I was in the sauna in LA fitness and it was just me and one other guy in there. All of the sudden he started talking to me, had some very positive things to say about my "energy" he said he liked my energy and that he could tell that I had some big things in store in my future. Very intrigued I questioned him on this and asked him what he did for a living. He told me " Its my job to usher in the next payment system into the world". After talking to him more and more about it, it turned out that this guy was traveling country to country making huge deals in BTC with high ranking government officials. He kept saying that its his job to keep BTC in "Sovereign hands" I found this all very interesting.

He elaborated some more saying that the CIA was the group that really created BTC. He went on to speak about the white hats and the black hats in the CIA, aka the good guys and the bad guys, and that basically the whole agency was at war with itself. Crazy wild stuff here. Just an average day out at the gym for me, lmao. Anyhow, I finally got a chance to write it down and talk about it. I could go way more in depth but I don't want to sound crazy here, a lot of what was mentioned truly had me a little taken back. Like what if what he was saying was true, he said that the best way to play the field is to play both sides of the coin, to ensure your success, because then at that point no matter what you would do you would win. I don't know if anything what he said was true that night, but i'll tell you one thing, it sure was entertaining. 

Has anyone else had any strange encounters like this?

It seems to me that you have a very vivid imagination and that you are selling us stories for small children - because your story is nothing but a poorly conceived fantasy.

Given that you have already had strange topics involving drugs, lost friends and multi-million dollar deals, I would say that this story is constructed on old conspiracy theories that some three-letter agency invented Bitcoin - and now some strange people are walking around fitness centers and reveal top secrets to complete strangers - don't make fun of us, we're not all that naive.

Hey man, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I assure you that this conversation happened. Think whatever you want to think, I don't have time to convince you. This is my life, and the things that transpire in it I have little control over. Particularly with the people that I meet, I never expected to have this conversation. And to shed more light on this we were only in the sauna for 10 minutes because the LA was closing and we continued the conversation out front after 10pm when it closed. The only thing that I can say, is that if this man was a con man he was pretty good one. He had photo evidence of himself with the queen of england, putin, the golden dragon, and so much more. He was showing me crazy pictures of himself in rooms full of gold, and boxes filled with trillions of dollars worth of goverment bonds. I can't make this shit up lol. He did mention he was a truste for all the royal families. All wild stuff, and why the heck would he be telling some random stranger he met in the sauna all this? Beats me man. He did mention he has nobody to talk about any of this, and he felt good about my energy so maybe thats why? lol idk man. But I appreciate your concern here Lucius, i'm trying to live in the real world here and go about my business. Every day the real world gets crazier and crazier!
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So here was a very intriguing encounter that I had, about 3 or 4 months ago. I was in the sauna in LA fitness and it was just me and one other guy in there. All of the sudden he started talking to me, had some very positive things to say about my "energy" he said he liked my energy and that he could tell that I had some big things in store in my future. Very intrigued I questioned him on this and asked him what he did for a living. He told me " Its my job to usher in the next payment system into the world". After talking to him more and more about it, it turned out that this guy was traveling country to country making huge deals in BTC with high ranking government officials. He kept saying that its his job to keep BTC in "Sovereign hands" I found this all very interesting.

He elaborated some more saying that the CIA was the group that really created BTC. He went on to speak about the white hats and the black hats in the CIA, aka the good guys and the bad guys, and that basically the whole agency was at war with itself. Crazy wild stuff here. Just an average day out at the gym for me, lmao. Anyhow, I finally got a chance to write it down and talk about it. I could go way more in depth but I don't want to sound crazy here, a lot of what was mentioned truly had me a little taken back. Like what if what he was saying was true, he said that the best way to play the field is to play both sides of the coin, to ensure your success, because then at that point no matter what you would do you would win. I don't know if anything what he said was true that night, but i'll tell you one thing, it sure was entertaining. 

Has anyone else had any strange encounters like this?


You met a junkie. My advice to you is to run from a person like this in the future immediately. It's LA, half of those folks are probably on something.
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I'm more interested in the sauna, have you ever been in the "hot room" of a mining farm with +500 miners exhausting the air in such a room? Yup, sauna Cheesy (needs earplugs tho).

I've always wondered if it would be possible to generate an inverse waveform and effectively reduce the noise from the miners.

It's pretty stable the sound, so you should be able to predict what's coming next, and generate the inverse sound wave.

It would be amazing to have a BTC powered quiet sauna  Grin
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I'm more interested in the sauna, have you ever been in the "hot room" of a mining farm with +500 miners exhausting the air in such a room? Yup, sauna Cheesy (needs earplugs tho).



*walks into mining farm warehouse in the middle of the sahara*

Dang, it feels like a large-scale bitcoin mining operation in here!
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I'm more interested in the sauna, have you ever been in the "hot room" of a mining farm with +500 miners exhausting the air in such a room? Yup, sauna Cheesy (needs earplugs tho).
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He elaborated some more saying that the CIA was the group that really created BTC.
We don't know who is or are founder of Bitcoin. The founder is known under a name Satoshi Nakamoto but we don't know who is that founder, a person, a group of people, a government, many theory about that.

I don't mind but after some years in this market, I see the market is manipulated by news. News have many levels, from individual level like influencer to governmental level like China, USA, El Salvador, IMF, etc.

I am not surprised if Bitcoin will become a game for bigger entities like big institutions, governments, wars between governments in future. We have gold, gas, oil as war tools and in future, Bitcoin can be another war tool for governments.

The market is not manipulated by the news, but the sharks have used the news to manipulate this market. Honestly, I don't know if the crypto industry can take a big step forward and become an important part of society in the future. Currently, it's just a playground, where big hands launder money, nothing has been applied in practice, it's all just a money game. I also agree with your thoughts, bitcoin could very well become a tool of war, and politics like gold or oil today.
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Maybe you'll meet a Nigerian prince tomorrow in your LA Fitness Sauna as well and you'll get rich.  Cool


Bro. I found him just chilling in the lounge like he owns the place:



I mean just LOOK at this madlad. Who knows who he'll scam next... Cheesy Grin
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Cool story, bro!

After talking to him more and more about it, it turned out that this guy was traveling country to country making huge deals in BTC with high ranking government officials. He kept saying that its his job to keep BTC in "Sovereign hands" I found this all very interesting.

He elaborated some more saying that the CIA was the group that really created BTC. He went on to speak about the white hats and the black hats in the CIA, aka the good guys and the bad guys, and that basically the whole agency was at war with itself. Crazy wild stuff here.
Sure, he's having some sort of veeery secret mission but suddenly, he's telling YOU all his secrets. Secrets, no one has information of, at least outside their group (must be a lot of people to keep it secret, especially if CIA is at war with itself and it's a pure coincidence no one from these 2 opposed CIA groups has exposed the other group publicly so far...). And you are the lucky one who gets told about it.

Maybe you'll meet a Nigerian prince tomorrow in your LA Fitness Sauna as well and you'll get rich.  Cool

Has anyone else had any strange encounters like this?
Most likely, there are millions of people but they are not active on Bitcointalk, so we don't hear about it.  Tongue
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Why would the CIA ask Gavin to hold a speech and tell them what it is and how it works, if it was them who created it?
Doesn't make much sense to me.

Who says that they invited him, and not that it was the other way around? (I know what he wrote on that matter). At that time, it was obviously important for him to earn an easy $3000, and a few years later he showed that he did not even know how to verify a signed BTC message and believed that some scammer is Satoshi.

No, I don't think that Bitcoin is an invention of any agency with three or four letters, because they basically were and still are very unintelligent for such things. If terrorists roam the country for months or even years and then steal passenger planes and carry out attacks across the US, then it is clear how much IQ those who work in such agencies have.
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*grabs tin foil hat*

*places on my head*

I'm listening. O_O
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So far, nobody had found any legit evidence that CIA created Bitcoin.
And nobody ever will.

Why would the CIA ask Gavin to hold a speech and tell them what it is and how it works, if it was them who created it?
Doesn't make much sense to me.
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It sounds like you met a con man. Don't believe unreliable stories!
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So here was a very intriguing encounter that I had, about 3 or 4 months ago. I was in the sauna in LA fitness and it was just me and one other guy in there. All of the sudden he started talking to me, had some very positive things to say about my "energy" he said he liked my energy and that he could tell that I had some big things in store in my future. Very intrigued I questioned him on this and asked him what he did for a living. He told me " Its my job to usher in the next payment system into the world". After talking to him more and more about it, it turned out that this guy was traveling country to country making huge deals in BTC with high ranking government officials. He kept saying that its his job to keep BTC in "Sovereign hands" I found this all very interesting.

He elaborated some more saying that the CIA was the group that really created BTC. He went on to speak about the white hats and the black hats in the CIA, aka the good guys and the bad guys, and that basically the whole agency was at war with itself. Crazy wild stuff here. Just an average day out at the gym for me, lmao. Anyhow, I finally got a chance to write it down and talk about it. I could go way more in depth but I don't want to sound crazy here, a lot of what was mentioned truly had me a little taken back. Like what if what he was saying was true, he said that the best way to play the field is to play both sides of the coin, to ensure your success, because then at that point no matter what you would do you would win. I don't know if anything what he said was true that night, but i'll tell you one thing, it sure was entertaining. 

Has anyone else had any strange encounters like this?

It seems to me that you have a very vivid imagination and that you are selling us stories for small children - because your story is nothing but a poorly conceived fantasy.

Given that you have already had strange topics involving drugs, lost friends and multi-million dollar deals, I would say that this story is constructed on old conspiracy theories that some three-letter agency invented Bitcoin - and now some strange people are walking around fitness centers and reveal top secrets to complete strangers - don't make fun of us, we're not all that naive.
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The most strange story) Most likely it was an ordinary scammer who allegedly told about his connections with the government in order to gain your trust and try to sell you Bitcoin and then disappear with your money, he also said that he loves to travel and now it has become it’s clear at whose expense) But these are just my assumptions,I don’t think that this person would tell the truth to the first person he met in the gym.
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Lol  Grin

If he does BTC deals with high ranking government officials and this is in LA, I'm assuming he's just bagging senators and representatives with deals like FTX did, not going from country to country when most of them don't even understand English.
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(Assuming your story is actually true)

I don't want to pre-judge, but the dude sounds like a long-con scammer. The ones that would befriend you and try to get close to you and all that, then will just end up conning you for your money.

That, or that he's just a total utter weirdo.
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this guy was traveling country to country making huge deals in BTC with high ranking government officials. He kept saying that its his job to keep BTC in "Sovereign hands" I found this all very interesting.

I'm sorry, but this doesn't seem like a legit story to me. What's the point of travelling countries in order to set big BTC deals in person?
Can't the "high ranking government officials" simply use a big crypto exchange(or a DEX) to buy/sell Bitcoins?
The conspiracy theory about Bitcoin being created by the CIA will keep lurking around the internet forever. So far, nobody had found any legit evidence that CIA created Bitcoin. I assume that the guy you were talking to was a little bit delusional.
I don't believe that a random guy would just meet me somewhere and start talking about his business. What if I was a criminal and that guy told me that he owns lots of Bitcoin? I would probably kidnap him and ask for a ransom. Grin Telling random strangers about your business is a stupid move.
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